Why Are the Most Vaccinated Nations Also the Most Infected?

[Original Happy Camper]

Now, we are finding that populations with the most vaccinations also have the highest infection rates. We reported some time ago that the inventor of mRNA vaccine technology, Dr. Robert Malone, has been trying to warn the world that these vaccines are dangerous and that they will cause more infections than they will stop.

They do this, he explains, by turning the vaccinated person’s body into a factory for covid spike proteins. Spike proteins are the structures on the outside of a virus that allow it to attach to and infect other cells. They are like keys to the protective membranes of other cells. Since the end of last year, virologists have been telling us that the spike protein on this virus is a shape-shifter, that it changes form in order to infect other cells.

What this means is, if the vaccine boosts the production of covid spike proteins in the body, then it is giving the virus more of the tools it needs to unlock and infect new cells and defeat the body’s immunity. It’s a bit like leaving piles of bricks in the streets so that rioters and ANTIFA members can smash all the windows they like. So, while the corporate media and the Biden administration continue to blame the unvaccinated for the growing infection rate, the truth is just the opposite. The vaccinated are becoming covid incubation units.

But as usual, the reason this is a problem is that the corporate media isn’t reporting these and other important truths. If they did, things would be very, very different.

https://www.conservativenewszone.co...st-vaccinated-nations-also-the-most-infected/

 

[Petros2015]

The vaccinated are becoming covid incubation units.

So... being vaccinated has transformed me into Typhoid Mary?
And... that's why they are pushing for the vaccinated to still wear masks?
I don't believe it, but amusing...

we are finding that populations with the most vaccinations also have the highest infection rates.

I suspect the most vaccinated nations are also the best trackers of information overall. And, with Delta Variant's ridiculous spread rate, as I said earlier, you can either get vaccinated the easy way, or the hard way. I chose the easy way.

 

[The Barbarian]

The question that anti-vaxxers should be answering, is "why are almost all the people dying of COVID-19, unvaccinated?"

 

[Original Happy Camper]

So... being vaccinated has transformed me into Typhoid Mary?
And... that's why they are pushing for the vaccinated to still wear masks?
I don't believe it, but amusing...



I suspect the most vaccinated nations are also the best trackers of information overall. And, with Delta Variant's ridiculous spread rate, as I said earlier, you can either get vaccinated the easy way, or the hard way. I chose the easy way.

So you find this amusing

"We reported some time ago that the inventor of mRNA vaccine technology, Dr. Robert Malone, has been trying to warn the world that these vaccines are dangerous and that they will cause more infections than they will stop"

Do you the same qualifications as Dr Malone?

 

[Petros2015]

Do you the same qualifications as Dr Malone?

These are the qualifications that concern me:

We reported

and you totally lost me along the way with the bias here:

It’s a bit like leaving piles of bricks in the streets so that rioters and ANTIFA members can smash all the windows they like. So, while the corporate media and the Biden administration

But, I'll check it out objectively anyway, and let you know what I find.

 

[Original Happy Camper]

The question that anti-vaxxers should be answering, is "why are almost all the people dying of COVID-19, unvaccinated?"

Democrats says this is a pandemic of the unvaxxed. Data from England show 63% of Delta deaths in last 7.5 months were fully vaxxed.

Breakthrough Cases Surge: Vaccinated Individuals Accounted for 87% of Covid Hospitalizations Over the Past Week in Wales UK; 99% of All New Cases Were Under 60 Years Old - Geller Report News

Would you like to modify your statement quoted?

 

[.Mikha'el.]

I've long believed that the more vaccinated a country is, the more militant the holdouts are going to be towards getting the jab, thus making those people more likely to spread the disease.

 

[Petros2015]

But, I'll check it out objectively anyway, and let you know what I find.

That didn't take long.

https://www.theatlantic.com/science...lone-vaccine-inventor-vaccine-skeptic/619734/

And yet he does routinely slip into speculation that turns out to be misleading or, as in the segment on Bannon’s show

Bannon = pretty close to pure evil in my book.
Someone touring podcasts with him = no good (to me)
Pick your side, if you are on Bannon's side, you are not on mine.

I suspect he invented mRNA the same way Al Gore invented the internet.

 

[Original Happy Camper]

These are the qualifications that concern me:



and you totally lost me along the way with the bias here:



But, I'll check it out objectively anyway, and let you know what I find.

Great

That is what the Lord told us to search search the true by yourself

 

[Original Happy Camper]

I've long believed that the more vaccinated a country is, the more militant the holdouts are going to be towards getting the job, thus making those people more likely to spread the disease.

but vaccinated people are getting and spreading it also

 

[Original Happy Camper]

That didn't take long.

https://www.theatlantic.com/science...lone-vaccine-inventor-vaccine-skeptic/619734/

And yet he does routinely slip into speculation that turns out to be misleading or, as in the segment on Bannon’s show

Bannon = pretty close to pure evil in my book.
Someone touring podcasts with him = no good (to me)
Pick your side, if you are on Bannon's side, you are not on mine.

I disagree with you but respect your right to express you opinion

 

[A_Thinker]

So you find this amusing

"We reported some time ago that the inventor of mRNA vaccine technology, Dr. Robert Malone, has been trying to warn the world that these vaccines are dangerous and that they will cause more infections than they will stop"

Do you the same qualifications as Dr Malone?

Your stat for England is a lie.

Vaccinated patients made up 1.2% of COVID deaths from Jan - Jul 2021 ...

Fully vaccinated people account for 1.2% of England’s Covid-19 deaths

As for Wales, only 13% of the current 658 hospitalized COVID patients are vaccinated. That's .02% of Wales' population.

Covid-19 in Wales: A third of positive cases are unvaccinated

 

[Ligurian]

Now, we are finding that populations with the most vaccinations also have the highest infection rates. We reported some time ago that the inventor of mRNA vaccine technology, Dr. Robert Malone, has been trying to warn the world that these vaccines are dangerous and that they will cause more infections than they will stop.

They do this, he explains, by turning the vaccinated person’s body into a factory for covid spike proteins. Spike proteins are the structures on the outside of a virus that allow it to attach to and infect other cells. They are like keys to the protective membranes of other cells. Since the end of last year, virologists have been telling us that the spike protein on this virus is a shape-shifter, that it changes form in order to infect other cells.

What this means is, if the vaccine boosts the production of covid spike proteins in the body, then it is giving the virus more of the tools it needs to unlock and infect new cells and defeat the body’s immunity. It’s a bit like leaving piles of bricks in the streets so that rioters and ANTIFA members can smash all the windows they like. So, while the corporate media and the Biden administration continue to blame the unvaccinated for the growing infection rate, the truth is just the opposite. The vaccinated are becoming covid incubation units.

But as usual, the reason this is a problem is that the corporate media isn’t reporting these and other important truths. If they did, things would be very, very different.

https://www.conservativenewszone.co...st-vaccinated-nations-also-the-most-infected/

Same thing I've been hearing. Do you see any way for the world to recover from this? Especially if these spike proteins are being shed by the vaccinated. What will they do to you when you don't take the vaccine? Force you?

 

[Ligurian]

Your stat for England is a lie.

Vaccinated patients made up 1.2% of COVID deaths from Jan - Jul 2021 ...

Fully vaccinated people account for 1.2% of England’s Covid-19 deaths

Some say that the vaccinated, when they die, are being called unvaccinated.

"Dr Judy Mikovits Warns Spike Protein Injections May Kill 50 Million Americans"

States With Religious and Philosophical Exemptions From School Immunization Requirements

 

[Original Happy Camper]

That didn't take long.

https://www.theatlantic.com/science...lone-vaccine-inventor-vaccine-skeptic/619734/

And yet he does routinely slip into speculation that turns out to be misleading or, as in the segment on Bannon’s show

Bannon = pretty close to pure evil in my book.
Someone touring podcasts with him = no good (to me)
Pick your side, if you are on Bannon's side, you are not on mine.

I suspect he invented mRNA the same way Al Gore invented the internet.

“A lie can travel around the world and back again while the truth is lacing up its boots.”—Mark Twain.

The History of how mRNA Vaccines were Discovered

This is written by Molone's wife of 42 years and is his history of mrna vaccines

please read it then decide if the comparison to al gore is warranted

 

[The Barbarian]

Looks like another weird conspiracy theory and a fake "I was the inventor" story.

But what about Malone’s claim that he is the “inventor of mRNA vaccines”? There’s little doubt that he did work with an early group experimenting with injecting mRNA in liposomes into muscle to get the muscle cells to express the protein coded for by the mRNA sequence. Basically, in 1989, while in Inder Verma’s lab he published a paper in which the mRNA coding for Luciferase, a protein that undergoes bioluminescence when the right reagents are in the solution, was encapsulated in liposomes and used to transfect (introduce the mRNA or DNA into) NIH-3T3 cells (a commonly used fibroblast cell line), as well as human, rat, mouse, Xenopus, and Drosophila cells. This is basic cell culture work, a long way from vaccines. By 1990, he was second author on a paper in which mRNA constructs and DNA plasmids encoding chloramphenicol acetyltransferase, luciferase, and β-galactosidase (three common proteins that were used as markers because they could produce an easily assayable product) in liposomes were injected into mouse muscle, which was certainly an advance, but “inventor of mRNA vaccines”? It makes me wonder why this paper’s first (and corresponding) author Jon Wolff isn’t on Bret Weinstein’s and Joe Rogan’s podcasts and Fox News complaining about not getting his proper due as the one true “inventor of mRNA vaccines.” My guess is that he knows the proper role his work played in the development of these vaccines.
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I’ve written about all these false claims. Spike protein does not have demonstrable reproductive toxicity, and the study to which antivaxxers point to claim that it accumulates in the ovaries is a rodent study that doesn’t show that much accumulation at all and doesn’t show that the spike protein floats free in the bloodstream at quantities sufficient to cause problems. Indeed, the evidence we have shows that the spike protein from the mRNA COVID-19 vaccines is only transiently detectable in the bloodstream at infinitesimal concentrations.
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He bases this claim on his characterization of COVID-19 vaccines as “experimental.” As I’ve said so many times before, this is an intentional misuse of the legal definition of “investigational” or “experimental,” in which a drug or vaccine not approved by the FDA must be described using one of these words. However, from a scientific standpoint, COVID-19 vaccines are no longer experimental after they’ve undergone phase 1, 2, and 3 clinical trials involving tens of thousands of subjects and have now been administered to hundreds of millions of people with a good record of safety and efficacy. Basically, this is the intentional conflation of a legal term with a scientific term when they don’t mean the same thing in different contexts.

To reiterate, I don’t really care if Malone is truly the “inventor of mRNA vaccines” or not. I really don’t (even as I doubt that he really is). What I do care about is how he’s enthusiastically using his now ancient connection to mRNA transfection techniques.
Is "mRNA vaccine inventor" Robert Malone "being erased from Wikipedia" for his claims about COVID-19?

Whole lot of debunking, not to mention many millions of vaccinated people, and rather low levels of adverse effects, even for a new vaccine.

https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/it...hat-covid-19-vaccines-make-females-infertile/

 

[The Barbarian]

Some say that the vaccinated, when they die, are being called unvaccinated.

Some say that Bigfoot is now retired and living in Las Vegas.

Still, I'd like to see some evidence. BTW, Doctor Judy seems like a really interesting person...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judy_Mikovits

 

[miamited]

Hi @Original Happy Camper

I'm wondering if you'd be willing to help me out. If you'd click on the link, supplied in your article that concerns where the article is getting it's information: According to the most recent data that was released by public health officials in Wales,...which will lead you here: COVID-19 Wales situational report: 24 September 2021 | GOV.WALES, which will finally lead you here: https://gov.wales/sites/default/fil...es-situational-report-24-september-2021_2.pdf If you might humor an old man and copy and paste for me where the referenced link makes the claim that the article is making?

I'm just curious if you'd be willing to help an old, slow man with a fairly slow brain as he searches for the 'truth' that you're claiming that you're searching for?

God bless,
Ted

 

[A_Thinker]

Some say that the vaccinated, when they die, are being called unvaccinated.

"Some say" ... is quite unreliable ...

 

[The Barbarian]

"Some say" ... is quite unreliable ...

How can you say that?

A Lot of People Are Saying: The New Conspiracism and the Assault on Democracy
https://press.princeton.edu/books/hardcover/9780691188836/a-lot-of-people-are-saying

It can be a lazy way to lie about things. Or if one can document that a lot people really are saying it, it could be a comment on gullibility or suspicion.