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Why are the bishops silent?

Discussion in 'The Ancient Way - Eastern Orthodox' started by rusmeister, Jun 26, 2019.

  1. gzt

    gzt The age of the Earth is 4.54 ± 0.07 billion years

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    St Augustine talks about it in City of God, how there would be sex, but controlled by the rational will, and that concupiscence is a consequence of the fall.
     
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  2. ArmyMatt

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    thanks, I will have a look. where in St Jerome?
     
  3. Ioustinos

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    I honestly cringe inside when people describe themselves as theologians who are merely academics. I understand it is common usage in today's era to refer to someone as a theologian who studies about God. But like you said, a true theologian is one who knows God and not one who studies about God.
     
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  4. archer75

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    I'm not a DBH fan, but some kinds of knowledge are worthwhile even if their possessors aren't theologians in the proper sense.
     
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  5. Andrei D

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    Uhmm.. eh... this is called concern trolling and it is the method of choice by which many a subculture and organization has been brought to its knees by progressives.

    This is not paranoia. If you have been bubble wrapped for the past 10 years and haven't noticed what is going on, I'm sorry. What the past few years taught me is that slippery slope is no longer a fallacy but a reasonable expectation.
     
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  6. ArmyMatt

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    to be sure. someone like psychologist Dn Stephen Muse, PhD is in my opinion what an Orthodox academic should be. he has a vast knowledge of science, but struggles to submit his intellectual gifts to illumination.
     
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  7. archer75

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    Sorry, what is this in reference to?
     
  8. gzt

    gzt The age of the Earth is 4.54 ± 0.07 billion years

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    St Jerome wrote a called Against Jovinian or Jovinianus or something like that - St Augustine also wrote against that guy but didn't name him, I forget the work, but their approaches contrast.
     
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  9. Andrei D

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    Sorry for being unclear, but if you think you fit the bill you might just... NO... kidding! Not even remotely thinking about anyone here.

    Sorry for being unclear - I meant the protodeacon who wrote that piece, and I really do feel that way - I think that if OCA doesn't publicly rebuke this kind of clergy we are in trouble. I thought I hit reply on the post about his article.

    Byzantine, Texas: Protodeacon Theodore Feldman boldly spouts nonsense
     
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  10. rusmeister

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    And thus my thread - that the OCA is not instantly rebuking, correcting, and defrocking these people. And it looks like they have no plans to do so at all.
     
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  11. ArmyMatt

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    thanks, I will have a look
     
  12. Jude1:3Contendforthefaith

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    “The floor of hell is paved with the skulls of bishops.”
    • St. Athanasius of Alexandria , Council of Nicaea, (325 A.D.)
     
  13. Ioustinos

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    I'm not saying that what he has to say, or anyone who studies and writes on the topic, isn't worthwhile. Of course it is. What I struggle with is the term "theologian". How that term is understood within the Church is different than how it is understood in an academic setting.
     
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    A theologian is one who prays. Who are the Theologians in our Church?
     
  16. rusmeister

    rusmeister A Russified American Orthodox Chestertonian

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  17. ArmyMatt

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    the saints
     
  18. ArmyMatt

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    yeah, I know one of the OCA priests who put this together who is really hitting hard that this has to be addressed. the pro-LGBTQIA folks have become way too emboldened (not that they weren't before, only now it's gotten worse).
     
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  19. rusmeister

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    We are under no obligation to grant evil any of their lying self-identifications. They are NOT "gay", the rainbow does NOT belong to them, they are NOT "LGBT", etc. They are perverted in the literal Latin sense, their desires turned away from their proper objects (as all of our passions are). I respond to "LGBTQAIPBN etc" by calling it "the alphabet soup". The number of letters would have to encompass every imaginable passion in the end.
     
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  20. JasonV

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    I'm still waiting for your article about newspeak such as you discussed in "Gay Friend -What should I do?" thread. If you haven't seriously considered writing something up, please consider it. Orthodoxy needs an article like that.
     
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