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I refer you to the bible, particularly the OT.If you think God is a control freak, can you illustrate your belief with examples?
"Almost no understanding"? What? We have almost no understanding of gravity? No, no, no, I can't let that slide. Einstein's theory of general relativity explained all we need to know in great detail.
Been there, done that (a long time ago).Specifically, "I the Lord am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and fourth generation" (Exodus 20). Also @FrumiousBandersnatch take a read through Ezekiel 16 and Ezekiel 23. Warning, the two chapters are sexually explicit, but it's the Bible after all so I'm sure I can cite them here, lol.
I think Gravity is one of the stronger arguments for a God. It's obvious everywhere with almost no understanding of it.
@FrumiousBandersnatch Apologies for the confusion, I got mixed up and thought you were the person arguing God is not a control freak. Ironically, reading all of the Bible is how we become atheists
I'm going to disagree on that.Ironically, reading all of the Bible is how we become atheists
@FrumiousBandersnatch Apologies for the confusion, I got mixed up and thought you were the person arguing God is not a control freak. Ironically, reading all of the Bible is how we become atheists
I don't know that I'd call Spinoza's argument "devastating." It's just an argument, one of many out there.Agreed, this was Spinoza's devastating argument against miracles. A miracle, being an interference with nature, would be God violating his own system, which is incoherent as a concept.
Listen to these mind-boggling 2010 statistics: In the U.S., 57% of Protestants can name the four gospels. 55% of Catholics know their tradition teaches that sacramental bread and wine become Christ’s body and blood. 53% of Protestants cannot identify Luther as the person who started the Protestant Reformation. But on Pew's religious knowledge survey, atheists/agnostics scored highest, then Jews: U.S. Religious Knowledge Survey Black protestants and Hispanic Catholics score lowest, which is unsurprising as they are generally the most devout.
What about more recently, 2019? Here's this: What Americans Know About Religion Interestingly, Jews scored higher than atheists here, but atheists were second on religious knowledge. Other interesting stats: Mormons were third in 2010, but dropped quite a lot. And in this, black protestants scored noticeably lower than "nothing in particular."
By the way, you can go to that website to take the quiz yourself so you know exactly what the questions were.
Here's the fact: Atheists know more about religion than religious people. The Bible is, for most Christians, like a software license (EULA): nobody reads it. They just scroll down to the bottom and hit I Agree.
Neat.Listen to these mind-boggling 2010 statistics: In the U.S., 57% of Protestants can name the four gospels.
Did ... did you just say "tradition"?T. E. Smith said:55% of Catholics know their tradition teaches that sacramental bread and wine become Christ’s body and blood.
Far out.T. E. Smith said:53% of Protestants cannot identify Luther as the person who started the Protestant Reformation.
Look, my friend.T. E. Smith said:What about more recently, 2019?
Agreed, this was Spinoza's devastating argument against miracles. A miracle, being an interference with nature, would be God violating his own system, which is incoherent as a concept.
Listen to these mind-boggling 2010 statistics: In the U.S., 57% of Protestants can name the four gospels. 55% of Catholics know their tradition teaches that sacramental bread and wine become Christ’s body and blood. 53% of Protestants cannot identify Luther as the person who started the Protestant Reformation. But on Pew's religious knowledge survey, atheists/agnostics scored highest, then Jews: U.S. Religious Knowledge Survey Black protestants and Hispanic Catholics score lowest, which is unsurprising as they are generally the most devout.
What about more recently, 2019? Here's this: What Americans Know About Religion Interestingly, Jews scored higher than atheists here, but atheists were second on religious knowledge. Other interesting stats: Mormons were third in 2010, but dropped quite a lot. And in this, black protestants scored noticeably lower than "nothing in particular."
By the way, you can go to that website to take the quiz yourself so you know exactly what the questions were.
Here's the fact: Atheists know more about religion than religious people. The Bible is, for most Christians, like a software license (EULA): nobody reads it. They just scroll down to the bottom and hit I Agree.
Ok. I'm glad to hear that you find Coyne's book pathetic. I find it faulty probably for some of the same reasons that you do. But as for Spinoza, we'd have to get into the finer details that you're referring to in order to see just how "devastating" his critique is. Of course, I haven't read everything Spinoza has written, so I might have a nice surprise to mull over if I find something he's said that provides a real challenge epistemologically.I think it's the strongest argument, as it doesn't appeal to science but to philosophy/theology. By the way, I find Coyne's book Faith versus Fact pathetic, if that's what you're referencing.
I haven't given an explanation really, and I try to refrain from writing long posts. But if I was to give a more sociological explanation, it'd center on the fact that the U.S. has traditionally been an anti-intellectual society on the whole, with one of the aspects of that tradition emanating from American driven interpretations of the Bible from its more experiential and emotional adherents.Your explanation still doesn't address why secular people score higher. It makes sense Jews score high, since many of them are very secular. Now, I don't think these scores are high. No, they're pitiful. And my score was not great either, certainly. We need more religious education across the board. But at least atheists are getting there.
Agreed, this was Spinoza's devastating argument against miracles. A miracle, being an interference with nature, would be God violating his own system, which is incoherent as a concept.
Listen to these mind-boggling 2010 statistics: In the U.S., 57% of Protestants can name the four gospels. 55% of Catholics know their tradition teaches that sacramental bread and wine become Christ’s body and blood. 53% of Protestants cannot identify Luther as the person who started the Protestant Reformation. But on Pew's religious knowledge survey, atheists/agnostics scored highest, then Jews: U.S. Religious Knowledge Survey Black protestants and Hispanic Catholics score lowest, which is unsurprising as they are generally the most devout.
What about more recently, 2019? Here's this: What Americans Know About Religion Interestingly, Jews scored higher than atheists here, but atheists were second on religious knowledge. Other interesting stats: Mormons were third in 2010, but dropped quite a lot. And in this, black protestants scored noticeably lower than "nothing in particular."
By the way, you can go to that website to take the quiz yourself so you know exactly what the questions were.
Here's the fact: Atheists know more about religion than religious people. The Bible is, for most Christians, like a software license (EULA): nobody reads it. They just scroll down to the bottom and hit I Agree.
Yep.Agreed. Second Great Awakening shows this very clearly.
How many academians can name the four laws of thermodynamics?
13 here.One of the links you gave took me to a quiz with 15 questions and I got 14 right.
Next- who knows most / least about science
I think if my grandson was told that they're zero(th), first, second and third, he'd always remember them. As would anyone who could count to 4. But it seems 4 names are too many for most protestants to remember. Maybe they think that Luthors given name was Lex.
Did ... did you just say "tradition"?
I'm sure you meant "sacrament"?
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