Why are SDA so paraoid of Jesuits?

[MoreCoffee]

Didn't he begin to believe the RCC was "mystery Babylon" in Revelation, as do the SDAs of today?

What Divides Catholics and Protestants? - Topix

Nijoni wrote:
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Alberto Magno Romero Rivera was never priest never a Jesuit; he was a fraud.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Originally Posted by Rhamiel

there is no secret oath
the Jesuits do have an oath to be faithful to the Pope
and that is all the oath says
and the oaths of chastity, poverty and obedience

nothing secret about it
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Shhhhh .... it's a secret

Jesus revealed the "secret" in the book of Revelation:

Blue Letter Bible - Lexicon
Strong's Number G3466 matches the Greek μυστήριον (mystērion), which occurs 27 times in 27 verses in the Greek concordance

Last time used in NT:

YLT) Rev 17:7
and the Messenger said to me "Wherefore didst thou wonder? I -- I will tell thee the secret of the Woman and of the Beast that [is] carrying Her, which hath the seven heads and the ten horns......"

from the CD "Mystery to Me", by fleetwood Mac.
pics and video clips taken here in Oregon

Fleetwood Mac hypnotized - YouTube

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Originally Posted by LittleLambofJesus

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Didn't he begin to believe the RCC was "mystery Babylon" in Revelation, as do the SDAs of today?

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Alberto Magno Romero Rivera was never priest never a Jesuit; he was a fraud.

Then he and others will be judged rather harshly by the Lord/Master

YLT) 2Pe 2:1
And there did come also false prophets among the people, as also among you there shall be false teachers, who shall bring in besides destructive sects
and the Master/Owner who bought them, denying, bringing to themselves quick destruction

Rev 6:10
and they were crying with a great voice, saying, "Till when, O Master/Owner, the Holy and the True, dost Thou not judge and take vengeance of our blood from those dwelling upon the land?"

Blue Letter Bible - Lexicon
Strong's Number G1203 matches the Greek δεσπότης (despotēs), which occurs 10 times in 10 verses in the Greek

1203. despotes des-pot'-ace perhaps from 1210 and posis (a husband); an absolute ruler ("despot"):--Lord, master.



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[Erose]

Then he and others will be judged rather harshly by the Lord/Master



Blue Letter Bible - Lexicon
Strong's Number G1203 matches the Greek δεσπότης (despotēs), which occurs 10 times in 10 verses in the Greek

1203. despotes des-pot'-ace perhaps from 1210 and posis (a husband); an absolute ruler ("despot"):--Lord, master.



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it is pretty telling of a church group who needs to deceive in order to pass their version of the truth. What does that truly say about them and their truth?

 

[Rick Otto]

It wouldn't be a secret it we knew about it. But i don't know about such things anyway, just saying.

Well, don't just say that then.
Think about it.
Stop thinking in absolutist terms. Definitions become unrealistc when we do.
If I tell you the secret, of course it is no longer a secret to you, but it is still a secret. How can that be? It is more about intent. If we go absolutist, ther is no such thing as a secret when even one person finds it out.
See what I mean?

 

[Rick Otto]

Alberto Magno Romero Rivera was never priest never a Jesuit; he was a fraud.

The historicaly & presently documented frauds of the RCC make Rivera look like a rank amateur.

The Wikipedia link I gave does mention Rivera's deceptions.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

The historicaly & presently documented frauds of the RCC make Rivera look like a rank amateur.

The Wikipedia link I gave does mention Rivera's deceptions.

How many have been documented?
There is an interesting discussion on this now defunct thread:

http://www.christianforums.com/t6870602-10/#post43686036

Originally Posted by TraderJack

Don't leave out the other major forgeries that along with the Donation of Constantine became the foundation of Roman Catholicism:

"The Thesaurus of Greek Fathers"---a total fraud

"The Pseudo-Isidorian Decretals"---a total fraud

"Liber Pontificalis"----likewise a fraud

Of course there are many, many more, so many in fact that at one point during the dark ages, prior to the schism in 1064AD, the Greeks refused to accept any documents from Rome, calling Rome a "forgery factory".
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[MoreCoffee]

Are you being naughty again, LLoJ?

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Originally Posted by Rick Otto

The historicaly & presently documented frauds of the RCC make Rivera look like a rank amateur.


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How many have been documented?
There is an interesting discussion on this now defunct thread:

http://www.christianforums.com/t6870602-10/#post43686036

Are you being naughty again, LLoJ?

Only on the Sabbath


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[MoreCoffee]

Only on the Sabbath .

It's the Lord's day where I am

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Originally Posted by LittleLambofJesus

Only on the Sabbath .
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It's the Lord's day where I am

Where are you at?
It is Saturday 1:15 pm central Texas time where I am, the middle of the Jewish Sabbath day.

http://www.christianforums.com/t7475520/
The Lord's Day

Rev. 1:10 I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet,

What day is the Lord's day?

Some say Sunday. Some say Saturday. But I say each day. Here's why from both Scripture and Tradition.

In a different thread, I spoke about how Jesus taught the apostles and they uniformly taught the Church about the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ. The Church first observed His death on the 14th of Nisan on whatever day of the week it fell on. It was like your birth day in that regard.


Praise the Lord, show forth His salvation, rejoice, and be glad it His day.

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[MoreCoffee]

Where are you at?
It is Saturday 1:15 pm central Texas time where I am, the middle of the Jewish Sabbath day.

Well, you see, that's the problem with 7th day sabbaths; they are so time zone dependent. And if one depends on sunset for starting the day and sunset for ending it then those who happen to be near the poles (north and south) will have a very long sabbath once every seven years or so. All very unsuitable for a Catholic

 

[VolRaider]

some of them might have been witches, or crazy people
there are reports of women gladly saying that they had sex with the devil in the form of a giant black cat and put curses on neighbors and stuff, laughing on the way to the gallows

and what area are you talking about, do you think this only happened in Salem? This happened through out Europe and America


from between the 1400's and the 1700's somewhere between 35,184–63,850 were killed for being witches in the Americas and Europe
now this estimate is counting Catholic and Protestant countries
but still, this is a huge number, you can not just write it off

Didn't only happen in Salem, but the picture I saw looked like Massachusetts so I assumed it was Salem.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Originally Posted by LittleLambofJesus

Where are you at?
It is Saturday 1:15 pm central Texas time where I am, the middle of the Jewish Sabbath day.
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Well, you see, that's the problem with 7th day sabbaths; they are so time zone dependent. And if one depends on sunset for starting the day and sunset for ending it then those who happen to be near the poles (north and south) will have a very long sabbath once every seven years or so. All very unsuitable for a Catholic

Ahhh, I see said the blind man



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[LittleLambofJesus]

Originally Posted by grasping the after wind

Sharing
A Jesuit and a Franciscan sat down to dinner, after which pie was served. There were two pieces of pie, one small and the other large.
The Jesuit reached over and took the larger piece for himself.
The Franciscan remonstrated, “St. Francis always taught us to take the meaner piece.” The Jesuit replied, “And so you have it.”
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That's typical of the jokes Jesuits tell about themselves.

Does one good to laugh at ones self once in awhile....



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[MoreCoffee]

Does one good to laugh at ones self once in awhile....

Thread resurrecting again?

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Originally Posted by LittleLambofJesus

Does one good to laugh at ones self once in awhile....
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Thread resurrecting again?

I would think threads on the SDAs vs Catholicism would be fun, don't ya think?


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[from scratch]

Remains a very good question.

 

[Rhamiel]

Remains a very good question.

I think that it is because the Jesuits have been effective preachers and teachers, helping strengthen the Catholic Church by helping people be good and wise Catholics, setting up a social structure that helps Catholics

 

[MoreCoffee]

I kind of enjoy reading SDA flights of fancy about the naughtiness of Jesuits

It's like Chick comics but in words only - no lurid drawings.


Mind you, there is a strange quality to all those images of heaven and the heavenly two-tablets of stone in SDA iconography.

What's with the encircling clouds?

Oh, and what is THE ANDREWS STUDY BIBLE like? It's SDA notes in a NKJV I saw on amazon but what's it about?