Why are Christians so incredibly deceived about scripture?

[Goatee]

So far you have never proven anything I say is contrary to GOD'S WORD or false or a lie or in any way misleading.

But you have said what the CC has said is false and untrue! How can you when you are a mere man?

 

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Rubbish. But, if you think it is true then you need to back that up with a link etc so that us Catholics can see. Remember, you are a man!!! What you say is not to be trusted!!!

Priest are men. They speak the traditions of men.....

 

[Goatee]

So, Jesus didn't literally forgive the paralized man? Is that what you really believe?

You should ask yourself that question as it is you that choose which things to believe as literal or not! lol

 

[Goatee]

Priest are men. They speak the traditions of men.....

Sacred Tradition yes. Not 'tradition'.

Priests 'Tradition' goes back to the Apostles my dear friend!

 

[Goatee]

That is not what YHWH'S WORD SAYS:
("interpreted by your brain"). And that is[APPARENTLY] the ongoing reason or source of your continued rebellion against what I and others say by revelation in Y'SHUA and in line with YHWH'S WORD.


Keep seeking the truth, keep seeking YHWH'S KINGDOM
and HE PROMISES TO EVERYONE (no matter where they are from, or where they start) the truth will be revealed (if they are willing).

But you need to be careful buddy as you are sheep in the wilderness. Be careful of the voices you hear!

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

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[Goatee]

The sheep of the SHEPHERD KNOW Y'SHUA'S VOICE and follow HIM ,
we will not ever follow a butcher or anyone else.
Anyone can be sola scripture or whatever and not follow Y'SHUA and end up on the wide road to destruction with all the others;
but the true sheep who are called and chosen by HIM, follow HIM,
as HE SAYS. (as it says clearly in HIS WORD).

Thus, for anyone who wants to find life, life abundantly, truth and eternal life,
HE is the ONE to seek this from; not man and all man's distractions opposed to YHWH'S WORD; not all man's or demon's voices ; not any of them, ever.

Then why do you follow man yourself? As a Catholic i follow the Holy Spirit as it lives and breathes in the CC. Guided by the Holy Spirit our church teaches and feeds the lambs.

You are relying on your own 'individual' 'interpretations' of scripture. You are making scripture fit in with your beliefs. You are in effect twisting scripture!

Please buddy, tread carefully.

 

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[Goatee]

So then you recommend "Sola scriptura" AND "prayer"? What made you think it was done any other way?

Prayer so that one can be awakened by the Holy Spirit to see that with Sola Scripture one has to be very careful that one is not being led by the devil! He is a very clever demon.

 

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[Goatee]

No descendants nor ancestors of the catholic church;
but yes- you should not trust me until you prove what i say from Scripture (which is all easy to verify - simple, nothing comlicated).
And no one should trust you likewise, nor the men you trust who oppose God's WORD .
If and when they agree with God's WORD, good and well.

How does the CC oppose Gods word exactly?

 

[Goatee]

Again,, that is ONLY according to man's word, not GOD'S.
Since they often opposed GOD'S WORD,
it is not accepted.

History. Do some reading on Catholic History my friend. The CC can be traced right back to the Apostles.

 

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[Goatee]

HIS sheep are HIS sheep wherever they are.
The whole world is a completely wicked place full of ravenous wolves according to JESUS.
HE says we should TRUST HIM, so we do.
HE says not to trust men, so we don't.

Correct but it seems like you are one that may be easily led brother. Take care

 

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[Goatee]

This your tradition which is often contrary to SCRIPTURE (as you have admitted frequently I think, in this forum) cannot be trusted.
Follow CHRIST HIMSELF, as HIS WORD SAYS, and not men.
This is TRUE to GOD'S WORD and FAITHFUL .

In the past the CC did some wicked things. Why? Because the devil deceived some. Humans will always be weak but, here the Church still stands! Through rough storms it is still here with Jesus at the helm. Scared Tradition goes hand in hand with Sacred Scripture. This, is what i have frequently stated.

To follow Christ is to follow the CC. Because, Jesus 'IS' the CC. He is its foundation stone. Its heart. Its very core.

If you were a Catholic you would understand this. You don't. No, you refuse to understand as you are a mere man who has been deceived by the devil to think otherwise.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

HIS sheep are HIS sheep wherever they are.
The whole world is a completely wicked place full of ravenous wolves according to JESUS.
HE says we should TRUST HIM, so we do.
HE says not to trust men, so we don't.

Correct but it seems like you are one that may be easily led brother. Take care

I am easily led by the GOOD SHEPHERD JESUS, YES.
HE SAYS to roll ALL CARE OVER ONTO HIM.

HE CARES FOR US PERFECTLY.