Why am I going to Hell in your eyes?

[davedjy]

Exodus still commands death though.

You are talking about the Old Testament! Jesus fulfilled that in the age of grace when He died on the cross. It is no longer "an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth".

Edit: Darceri explained it better than I did w/that post I didn't see, lol.

 

[Zeena]

The book of exodus commands death for refusing to REST in the Lord, and the power of His might.

It's the natural repurcusion of trying to live this Life apart from God

 

[VonBarnstejn]

Death where is your sting (1 Cor. 15:55), for whoever believes in Him [Jesus] should not perish but have eternal life (John 3:15).

Whoever is Baptised and believes in Christ Jesus as the only begotten Son of God will be saved.

Christ is the gift of God the Father to save the World (John 3:16) He is the Redeemer of mankind.

Chaplain Grace Evangelical Ministries.

 

[fireman1173005]

Yes, I believe unless you accept Jesus Christ into your heart as your personal Lord and Savior you will go to hell.

 

[Blackness]

I dont think your going to eternal damnation, I dont believe in that because I am a Universalist, there is "punishment" for unrepented sin in the after ilfe, but not the physical eternal hell like most Christians think. God has the ability to save all of His Creations, why wouldnt He? Jesus died for EVERYONE, that includes you, He did not just die for a certain group of people. But everyone. I just dont think you can do anything so bad you deserve eternal separation from God. And if non Christians went to hell, look how many people are going, thats an awful lot of people, I highly doubt they are all doomed.

 

[solarwave]

I dont think your going to eternal damnation, I dont believe in that because I am a Universalist, there is "punishment" for unrepented sin in the after ilfe, but not the physical eternal hell like most Christians think. God has the ability to save all of His Creations, why wouldnt He? Jesus died for EVERYONE, that includes you, He did not just die for a certain group of people. But everyone. I just dont think you can do anything so bad you deserve eternal separation from God. And if non Christians went to hell, look how many people are going, thats an awful lot of people, I highly doubt they are all doomed.

*Wants to cry*

Ok, Jesus did dye for EVERYONE, that excepted Him. EVERYONE, can be saved, but it's their choice, to be forgiven, they need to ask for it.

People go to hell because they can go to heaven.

 

[MikeMcK]

Yes, I believe unless you accept Jesus Christ into your heart as your personal Lord and Savior you will go to hell.

In princple, I believe you're on the right track.

How does one do this?

 

[Blackness]

*Wants to cry*

Ok, Jesus did dye for EVERYONE, that excepted Him. EVERYONE, can be saved, but it's their choice, to be forgiven, they need to ask for it.

People go to hell because they can go to heaven.

But I dont beileve it is eternal, it does not make any sense why God would put someone in eternal hell for thinking differently or making a "mistake" because God told us humans are bound to make mistakes. Someone can be a murderer and a thief, and all they have to do is accept Christ and go to heaven, while lets say Ghandi starved himself for peace but still gets eternal hell?

 

[DArceri]

But I dont beileve it is eternal, it does not make any sense why God would put someone in eternal hell for thinking differently or making a "mistake" because God told us humans are bound to make mistakes. Someone can be a murderer and a thief, and all they have to do is accept Christ and go to heaven, while lets say Ghandi starved himself for peace but still gets eternal hell?

One either accepts Him or denies Him. The bible is clear, those who deny Him will never come into His Kingdom.

 

[Blackness]

One either accepts Him or denies Him. The bible is clear, those who deny Him will never come into His Kingdom.

Thats your belief, mine is different. If anyone goes to hell for eternity then that means Jesus did not die to save mankind right? His purpose was to save us from hell and did Jesus ever say we have to "accept" Him? If that where the case He would have said "you have to accept me or you go to hell". Jesus died to save us all.

 

[Confess]

Thats your belief, mine is different. If anyone goes to hell for eternity then that means Jesus did not die to save mankind right? His purpose was to save us from hell and did Jesus ever say we have to "accept" Him? If that where the case He would have said "you have to accept me or you go to hell". Jesus died to save us all.

Then why did Jesus warn so many of Hell if he died for all of us no matter what we believed?

This thinking rejects original sin. We by our very nature are conceived rejecting God. It is by the grace of God that any of us believe. When we reject that faith, we reject salvation.

Heaven is not filled with unbelievers.

 

[Confess]

But I dont beileve it is eternal, it does not make any sense why God would put someone in eternal hell for thinking differently or making a "mistake" because God told us humans are bound to make mistakes. Someone can be a murderer and a thief, and all they have to do is accept Christ and go to heaven, while lets say Ghandi starved himself for peace but still gets eternal hell?

You can reject anything you want in the Bible, but it clearly teaches an eternal hell. Take a concordance and look up hell.

For those who reject salvation through Jesus Christ, their heaven was here on earth. God cannot blink at one sin, he is holy. He cannot allow sin to be in fellowship with him in heaven. Those who reject him, reject heaven.

 

[Blackness]

You can reject anything you want in the Bible, but it clearly teaches an eternal hell. Take a concordance and look up hell.

For those who reject salvation through Jesus Christ, their heaven was here on earth. God cannot blink at one sin, he is holy. He cannot allow sin to be in fellowship with him in heaven. Those who reject him, reject heaven.

Ok I am not going to turn this into a debate, but it is true that current translations are inaccurate on some parts.

 

[Confess]

Ok I am not going to turn this into a debate, but it is true that current translations are inaccurate on some parts.

There are some translations that are a mockery.

The truth can still be found within traditional translations. One of the great things about Scripture is that it interprets Scripture. That is to say that it repeats itself a lot. So where it repeats, you can be confident in the consistancy of translation.

Also, we can go back to the original language where some translations have translated words in a confusing way.

Other then that, I fully trust all that is written and have not found Scripture to be in error. I have read it through many times.

 

[Confess]

Your going to have to show me where there are two different teachings of hell.

 

[Zeena]

Sheol & Hades..
Gehenna and Abaddon..

http://biblia.com/jesusbible/job6c2.htm

 

[Shubunkin]

I must remind the people who are non-Christians to refrain from answering the OP questions here. Only Christians can answer these questions placed here. Rule 1.5

 

[McWilliams]

"Till men have faith in Christ, their best services are but glorious sins." THOMAS BROOKS

 

[Fortuna]

Sorry to have been away for so long the better half was hogging the computer

Just a couple of points:
1-Before I gave myself over to the Lord, blessings were evading my life. Now they are a part of my every day living.
All our needs (and many of our wants) are being sent our way due to our prayers. I know that all I have received since I accepted the Lord is by God's hand especially the clarity and peace of spirit and mind.

2-Luther's quote on reason. is one that I like because reason is of the world and can tempt a person away from their faith. Just look at some of the excuses of people on these forums that have given up God for reasons of their own.

This is not to say the reason is a bad thing, but it must exist hand in hand with faith and trust in God, IMHO.

If we are using reason for our own worldly purposes and devices and not God's purposes and will then reason is, indeed, the devil's harlot.

Blessings to all, Fortuna

 

[DArceri]

I dont think your going to eternal damnation, I dont believe in that because I am a Universalist, there is "punishment" for unrepented sin in the after ilfe, but not the physical eternal hell like most Christians think. God has the ability to save all of His Creations, why wouldnt He? Jesus died for EVERYONE, that includes you, He did not just die for a certain group of people. But everyone. I just dont think you can do anything so bad you deserve eternal separation from God. And if non Christians went to hell, look how many people are going, thats an awful lot of people, I highly doubt they are all doomed.

The original christians were Jews, but the Jews as a whole did not embrace the MESSIAH, and as time went on the number of those who were becoming Christians seemed to be overwhemingly Gentiles....In the N.T, Paul reminds us that the promises of GOD to ISRAEL had never been made to all of the physical descendents of Abraham, that is to all Jews, but only to the "children of promise", a REMNANT of the people of Isreal. The remnant is those who remain faithful in there covenant relationship with God throughout the history of the O.T. In GEN 45:7 Joseph tells his brothers that God has sent him ahead of them "to preserve them a remnant on earth...."Later on it says in 2KINGS 19:30,31 "Once more a remnant of the house of Judah will take root below and bear fruit above. For out of Jeruselem will come a remnant, and out of Mount Zion a band of survivors". In IS 11:10-11 it also talks about a remnant that is reclaimed, and then in MICAH 7:18 is says, "Who is a God like you, who pardons sin and forgives the transgression of the remnant of his inheritance? ...WHO IS THE REMNANT PAUL IS TALKING ABOUT? It is the "SPIRITUAL" DESCENDANTS OF ISRAEL, not the "physical" descendants of Abraham that is the"children of promise". Those who never believed in God were never promised a thing. If you read Pauls letter, ROMANS 9:1-5, Paul grieves for his fellow jewish non-believers, knowing that they are not saved because they have rejected the GOSPEL and the the free offer of God's grace.