Not in Greek! Paul wrote the verse in Greek. “to be absent, out of the body, and to be at home with the Lord.” Is the best translation. This is the translation of the Greek words used.
Aside from arguing that all Bible translations are wrong --
You still failed to make the case that "to be absent from the body IS to be present with the Lord" is anywhere at all - we all know it is not.
Both views have absent from the decaying tent body of 2 Cor 5, and "at home with the Lord" --
But in one view - the moment one is absent from the body - they are present with the Lord "IS TO BE"
In the other view they are two different events.
You are ignoring the salient point of difference in your response as if that is helping you somehow
The “naked, no tent, no body” is the soul.
It is the case of the person without the decaying tent and also without the immortal heavenly body which 1 Cor 15 context already stated - is given at the resurrection. This is irrefutable.
The soul departs the body but exists after death
Both views make that case - as we also see in Matt 10:28.
, as indicated by the Psalmist, and reflected by Paul’s writing of “naked” as the soul, having no body at death is “naked.”
Indeed - that naked state is the middle state where one does not have the decaying tent and also does not have the immortal body of 2 Cor 5:1-4 and 1 Cor 15
In that middle state the person is dormant (1 Thess 4:13-18) as Christ points out in John 11 with the case of Lazarus "Our friend Lazarus SLEEPS I go that I may awaken HIM"
No, absent the body cannot be harmonized with the notion of soul sleep
IN fact that is exactly what we see in both John 11 and 1 Thess 4:13-18 -- this is irrefutable.
the resurrection isn’t to be absent the body at all but to be with the body where the body is now transformed.
Agreed - but both views would make that point. So it is not helping you.
The same body laid down is the same body raised.
No it is not as Paul points out in 1 Cor 15.
35 But someone will say, “How are the dead raised? And with what kind of body do they come?” 36
You fool! That which you sow does not come to life unless it dies; 37 and that which you sow, you do not sow the body which is to be, but a bare grain, perhaps of wheat or of something else. 38 But God gives it a body just as He wished, and to each of the seeds a body of its own.
(which is one of the reasons that cremation is not even an issue)
Paul is referring to the same body. We all have 1 body. One.
Two bodies as 2 Cor 5 points out.
For we know that if our
earthly tent which is our
house is torn down, we have
a building from God, a house not made by hands, eternal in the heavens. 2 For indeed, in this
tent we groan, longing to be
clothed with our dwelling from heaven, 3 since in fact after putting it on, we will not be found naked.
That one body will be laid down and that same one body will be raised
Not according to 2 Cor 5:1-3 and 1 Cor 15.
