Why a Christian Can Vote for a Democrat

[Sparagmos]

Trump has given us the greatest economy ever.

Trump has ended the endless wars.

Trump has brought everlasting Peace to the Middle East.

Trump has risen to work THREE days after being infected by the COVID-19.

Trump is Gods choice to lead America and the World.

Looks like you caught one

 

[Sparagmos]

I like Putin too. He's a conservative and pro-Russia (his country). There's nothing wrong with his ideals, of which I share on the American side of the house. Let's not go to war with Russia, or China for that matter....or anyone unless we're attacked.

His ideals are stealing elections to remain in unlimited power, suppressing free speech and the press, imprisoning dissenters without due process, and assassinating or poisoning his political opponents. You can’t be serious.

 

[98cwitr]

His ideals are stealing elections to remain in unlimited power, suppressing free speech and the press, imprisoning dissenters without due process, and assassinating or poisoning his political opponents. You can’t be serious.

I haven't seen those reports. What I have seen is that since 2005 he's made the Russian economy into a freer market. I'm open to having my mind changed though.

 

[Jimmy D]

I like Putin too. He's a conservative and pro-Russia (his country). There's nothing wrong with his ideals, of which I share on the American side of the house. Let's not go to war with Russia, or China for that matter....or anyone unless we're attacked.

Poisoning his ex-employees on foreign soil, locking up his critics, attempting to poison his political opponents, profiting off corruption, annexing other countries, etc, yes, he’s really someone to look up to.

 

[Jimmy D]

His ideals are stealing elections to remain in unlimited power, suppressing free speech and the press, imprisoning dissenters without due process, and assassinating or poisoning his political opponents. You can’t be serious.

I wish I’d read yours before I posted mine. Still, great minds think alike eh comrade?

 

[98cwitr]

Poisoning his ex-employees on foreign soil, locking up his critics, attempting to poison his political opponents, profiting off corruption, annexing other countries, etc, yes, he’s really someone to look up to.

Sources please...all news to me, minus annexing countries, but that's not illegal...or even bad in some cases. Annexation may give that country more freedom to do as they please.

BUT...we're a bit off topic. This thread isn't really about Russia, it's about Christian justification for voting for Democratic candidates.

 

[Sparagmos]

I haven't seen those reports. What I have seen is that since 2005 he's made the Russian economy into a freer market. I'm open to having my mind changed though.

Cool, Yes I imagine the market is freer. I do t have time now but I’ll dig up some info for you.

 

[Sparagmos]

I wish I’d read yours before I posted mine. Still, great minds think alike eh comrade?

Lol I just read your quote below and for a second I said, how did his name get on my quote?!

 

[Triumvirate]

Sources please...all news to me, minus annexing countries, but that's not illegal...or even bad in some cases. Annexation may give that country more freedom to do as they please.

BUT...we're a bit off topic. This thread isn't really about Russia, it's about Christian justification for voting for Democratic candidates.

"I support Putin despite not knowing basic stuff about him"

seems legit

 

[Triumvirate]

Poisoning his ex-employees on foreign soil, locking up his critics, attempting to poison his political opponents, profiting off corruption, annexing other countries, etc, yes, he’s really someone to look up to.

Suspect for some of his US fans they really don't mind this too much

 

[98cwitr]

"I support Putin despite not knowing basic stuff about him"

seems legit

I mean they're plenty of allegations floating around, same regarding Biden, his son, Trump, and a myriad of other big political figures. I don't believe everything I read on the Internet unless there's solid evidence to back it up. And even then, you've got to look at sources for bias.

 

[iluvatar5150]

I mean they're plenty of allegations floating around, same regarding Biden, his son, Trump, and a myriad of other big political figures. I don't believe everything I read on the Internet unless there's solid evidence to back it up. And even then, you've got to look at sources for bias.

lol wow

You know the US government has levied sanctions against Russia for some of the bigger offenses, right?
https://fas.org/sgp/crs/row/IF10779.pdf

Where do you get your news that you have developed the impression that he's conservative and that it's potentially okay to annex parts of other countries, but have no idea that his government has poisoned people?

 

[Triumvirate]

I mean they're plenty of allegations floating around, same regarding Biden, his son, Trump, and a myriad of other big political figures. I don't believe everything I read on the Internet unless there's solid evidence to back it up. And even then, you've got to look at sources for bias.

But you clearly do believe what you've read so far about Putin if you think he's got good ideals. And what you've read so far is clearly inadequate if that's your conclusion.

 

[Triumvirate]

As for him supporting the church....does the Ukrainian Orthodox Church, which had to go autocephalous from Moscow after Russia invaded...do they not count? Do they not deserve support also?

 

[wing2000]

Putin is hoping Biden wins.
Putin Endorses Joe Biden: Democrats and Russian Communists Have 'Shared Values'

NeonNettle? You might want screen your sources a bit better...

 

[Dale]

A lot of great responses on the Republican side. In addition to all the stuff raised with China, Hillary Clinton and Russia etc. I would have to raise the rioting, and anarchy at home as another big weakness of the Democrats. I like 45 minutes away from Philadelphia that has had "BLM Protests" and the looting and arson that tends to go with the for the last two days or so. Most of the time, the Democrats are perfectly happy to let that stuff go on, and actually verbally support it (with a few caveats of course). It is only when it begins to hurt them in the polls or when the house of one of their mayors or governor's is threatened when action is taken.

And of course we also see states that go heavily blue go to pot. I was born in California and spent my 1st 47 years of my life there. So much has gone wrong in that state once it became one party rule by the Democrats. We got poop patrols. Giving sanctuary to MS 13 criminals. Tons of money spent on a North by South bullet train that practically nobody wants or needs, when water and drought has always been an issue in the state and their is not enough reservoirs and other water accumulation infrastructure like covered aqueducts and canals for those years that the state is blessed with abundant snow and rain.

Pavel Mosko: << I would have to raise the rioting, and anarchy at home as another big weakness of the Democrats. I like 45 minutes away from Philadelphia that has had "BLM Protests" and the looting and arson that tends to go with the for the last two days or so. >>
<< Giving sanctuary to MS 13 criminals. >>



You have my sympathy on these things. I agree that rioting and looting are intolerable.

However, you aren't really replying to the point I made in the OP, you are changing the subject.

Here is a counter-example, something that happened in Georgia less than six months ago. In Georgia, the Governor, Lt. Governor, Secretary of State and the Attorney General are all Republicans.

At the beginning of July, members of a black militia that calls itself NFAC marched through Stone Mountain Park, escorted by police. NFAC is short for a name that's too obscene to put on CF. The police who escorted them were apparently park police, state employees. I don't know if any city police took part. I have seen no information on how many of these marchers were from Georgia.

About "1,000 heavily armed militia" were in this march, according to Newsweek. Apparently "heavily armed" means that many of them were carrying assault rifles. They were peaceful in the sense that they didn't shoot anyone but both the leaders and other marchers were arrogant. When a motorist asked who they were, a marcher demanded "reparations."

Apparently the peculiar notion that this arrogant militia has a "right" to march with assault rifles making political demands results from a bizarre amalgamation of the First Amendment and the Second Amendment. If events like this are allowed, it is only a matter time before there is a massacre, or massacres. The only question is who massacres who.

I have climbed Stone Mountain, and walked around it, more times than I can remember. I was once with a group that had permission to climb it at 2 AM to see Haley's comet. I have been to the laser shows. I have been swimming at Stone Mountain Park. My father played golf there. My great grandfather worked on the carving the first time they tried to build it, in 1910.

If self-proclaimed militias marching through parks and towns is what the Republicans have to offer, they can get lost.

Link
Armed Black militia challenges white nationalists at Georgia's Stone Mountain Park

 

[Dale]

I like Putin too. He's a conservative and pro-Russia (his country). There's nothing wrong with his ideals, of which I share on the American side of the house. Let's not go to war with Russia, or China for that matter....or anyone unless we're attacked.

I thought conservatives believed in term limits these days.

Since 1999, Putin has been either Prime Minister or President of Russia. The title doesn't seem to matter, he's always the one in charge. He has changed the Russian Constitution so that he can stay in power for decades longer.

 

[Arc F1]

NeonNettle? You might want screen your sources a bit better...

I've never heard of them. It was just the first one in the DDG search. Plenty of big name news saying the same. I can provide them if you want.

 

[98cwitr]

I thought conservatives believed in term limits these days.

Since 1999, Putin has been either Prime Minister or President of Russia. The title doesn't seem to matter, he's always the one in charge. He has changed the Russian Constitution so that he can stay in power for decades longer.

Love term limits, but I don't take the American way of life and try to apply it to everyone. Russia is a separate country.

 

[wing2000]

I've never heard of them. It was just the first one in the DDG search. Plenty of big name news saying the same. I can provide them if you want.

Please do. I would like to see a direct quote from Putin stating he supports Biden for President.