Whose the real killer?

[Tynan]

Are you talking about the final Judgement from God? If so, don't you think God has a right to judge this world for it's wickedness against Him? He has warned and warned this world, and for those who won't listen, God will judge with eternal fire.

Sure he has the right to torture and set alight my daughter and my friend, my brother and sister in his ovens of hell, and the Nazis had the right to do much the same - both by virture of their power.

Does this make either good ? Well that is subjective, my feelings are that both are repugnant acts of absolute horror, others with a more religious bent dance with joy at the idea, we are all different.

 

[Tynan]

Actually since those Jews rejected Jesus they eventually escapted Hitlers wrath, but are now suffering eternally Gods.

Yep, out of the hands of the all loving Nazis into the hands of the all loving god, either way you look at it both the Nazis and god were just doing what they felt was right, what they felt was good - killing and torturing those who failed to meet their standards.

Barbaric thinking for the modern monster.

 

[GasTank]

Sure he has the right to torture and set alight my daughter and my friend, my brother and sister in his ovens of hell, and the Nazis had the right to do much the same - both by virture of their power.

Does this make either good ? Well that is subjective, my feelings are that both are repugnant acts of absolute horror, others with a more religious bent dance with joy at the idea, we are all different.

If you had a friend who was living with you, and he knew your rules for your house. But as time went on you noticed he was breaking your rules, and didn't care. Lets say you warned him over and over again to stop or else your going to throw him out. And lets say he felt that that was harsh cause he would be left out in the cold on the streets and you would have a warm home. But lets say he continued to disobey your set rules.

Would'nt be his fault for being thrown out due to the fact that he disobeyed your rules, even after you warned him over and over again?

Same it is with God. He loves all, and would have it that none perish, but many shal,l who seek not Him and turn from Him cursing.


And just so you know, I do not dance for joy that someone is going to burn for eternity. I hate the thought, but I do know God is just and merciful to those who will except His mercy. That is all there is to it, excpet His mercy and love and be free from the sin in you and excape the wrath of God.

Why wouldn't you? He is far greater then anything you'll ever know!

To all of you who don't know Christ, with love,

Nathaniel

 

[quatona]

If you had a friend who was living with you, and he knew your rules for your house. But as time went on you noticed he was breaking your rules, and didn't care. Lets say you warned him over and over again to stop or else your going to throw him out. And lets say he felt that that was harsh cause he would be left out in the cold on the streets and you would have a warm home. But lets say he continued to disobey your set rules.

Would'nt be his fault for being thrown out due to the fact that he disobeyed your rules, even after you warned him over and over again?
Same it is with God. He loves all, and would have it that none perish, but many shal,l who seek not Him and turn from Him cursing.

Are you willing to acknowledge that your analogy simply ignores some crucial points?
1. It´s not like I have been invited or have asked for living in the house of this friend. I have been created into it by my "friend".
2. It´s not like there is another house or place to go. To my knowledge there isn´t a second universe.
Just to name the first two that come to mind.

 

[Tynan]

If you had a friend who was living with you,

A friend who I had created. And made live with me, he being given no other choice.

and he knew your rules for your house.

Which he would have to pick out from a collection of thousands of different sets of rules pinned up on the walls, from the Christian rules to the Buddhist rules, to the Jewish rules and the pantheist rules and the Islamic rules and the Chinese folk religion rules and the Sikhism rules and the Zoroastrianism rules and the Neo-Paganistic rules etc etc...

...covering every inch of every wall, some like Christianity stacked 30,000 deep with puzzeling and confounding variation, with each one conflicting with the other on even basic points and all of them at odds with even simple empirical observations, basic logic and often displaying internally inconsistent logic.

And boy oh boy..... am I going come down on this idiot like a tonne of flamming bone crushing bricks if he picks the wrong set of rules.

But as time went on you noticed he was breaking your rules, and didn't care. Lets say you warned him over and over again to stop or else your going to throw him out.

Or lock him in your basement where you happen to have billions of other 'friends' who transgressed your rules and cover him in kerosene then set him on fire and lock to door to the sound of screaming and wailing.

And lets say he felt that that was harsh cause he would be left out in the cold on the streets and you would have a warm home. But lets say he continued to disobey your set rules.

Would'nt be his fault for being thrown out due to the fact that he disobeyed your rules, even after you warned him over and over again?

Sure, if that idiot cannot abandon logic, empathy and reason, if he cannot be conformed to a supernatural mindset then he deserves all the pain and the endless carnival of torture I have every right to deliver upon him.

Long may my 'friend' burn.


Signed:

The all loving Landlord

 

[GasTank]

...covering every inch of every wall, some like Christianity stacked 30,000 deep with puzzeling and confounding variation, with each one conflicting with the other on even basic points and all of them at odds with even simple empirical observations, basic logic and often displaying internally inconsistent logic.

If you don't wnat me to talk to you, I won't. I'm only doing it cause I care for you and desire for you to know the one and only true God.


Might I ask about this quote from you? Are you saying the bible has conflicts with itself? If so, where are they, I'd like to know?

 

[Argent]

Humans are animals.

Speak for yourself. Thanks. I also won't argue with the way you self-identify.

 

[levi501]

God willing, killing parasites will always remain legal while slavery proscribed.

 

[Tynan]

If you don't wnat me to talk to you, I won't.

Gastank, there are numerous peope who want to talk to me, as I am sure there are numerous people who talk to you.

We both must chose who we converse with, what will make best use of our time.

I have spent half my life talking to supernaturally minded folk like you in American, Africa and the Middle East (three centres for witchcraft, religion, supernaturalism etc) , all of them (except for a small minority) think that it is right that both me and my wife should be tortured for not just several billion years but more so - an eternity - my personal view of this is that I am conversing with something threatening, unreasoned and dangerous.

Do I want to talk to you ?

That is quite a question !

Tell me this:

If you had a beautiful baby daugher, would you feel at ease talking to a man who thinks it not only inevitable but also right that your daughter will be tortured for an indefinite period of time, set ablaze in flame and she should scream and wail to the silence of an all powerful torturer ?

My choice is to avoid contact with this modern monster as much as it is to avoid exposing my loved ones to pedophiles, sociopaths or those who think the colour of their skin is warrant to stone, beat and kill their fellow man.

I'm only doing it cause I care for you and desire for you to know the one and only true God.

You have learned not even the quality to be honest to yourself.

 

[USincognito]

Speak for yourself. Thanks. I also won't argue with the way you self-identify.

So what are you, plant, fungi or bacteria? RealityCheck was using the biological definition for animal. Are you using a different one because the last time I checked all humans fit the criteria for being animals.

 

[GasTank]

If you had a beautiful baby daugher, would you feel at ease talking to a man who thinks it not only inevitable but also right that your daughter will be tortured for an indefinite period of time, set ablaze in flame and she should scream and wail to the silence of an all powerful torturer ?

My choice is to avoid contact with this modern monster as much as it is to avoid exposing my loved ones to pedophiles, sociopaths or those who think the colour of their skin is warrant to stone, beat and kill their fellow man.



You have learned not even the quality to be honest to yourself.

You should train up your child in the ways of the Lord, so that she shall recieve the crown of life from Christ. God doen't just go around killing people. The only people who shall burn for eternity are those who still don't except Him when He returns.


Are you saying I'm a sociopath or pedophile?

I don't hate you, and a real Christian doesn't beat and kill a fellowman if for some reason you believe we do.



Please explain what you meant by your last remark.



I love you dearly and hope to know that you and your wife and daughter meet me in heaven someday.