Your comments are very thought provoking. What I will say, based on first hand experience, while limited...is you can EASILY expect liberal christians to embrace christians and non-christians alike. I do find it much more comman for liberal christians to speak with fundies like many of us here do. I love to hear their spin on things b/c it's quite amusing most of the time. However, rarely, if ever, will you find fundies embracing and accepting of anyone outside of their belief system. It's just is what it is and there is no denying it. They want to have a lock on Christianity, yet their version of it is the most demented. They make God out to be wicked, and vengful, and all things bad to his children. They list all of these judgements and requirements of what MUST be done in order to have a life with Christ...what one needs to do in order to be "saved", etc... The entire BIBLE, that they read so literally, is missed by them, because while they study to memorize scripture...so they can spew it in hatred at those they don't like...they missed the message of the bible...LOVE/COMPASSION. Jesus LOVES us. BELIEVE in him and the kingdom is yours. There is NO TEST to be a child of God..and God certainly is not out to bring death, destruction, and dispair into your life. Scare tactics are used everywhere in life. Unfortuantely, many fundamentalist churchs run with this foundation as well. Use religious threats, to make their followers anxious, scared, and unworthy to follow God...and it just is wrong. They are experts in spiritual abuse and as such ingrain it in their congregations minds so they continue to use their church as the be all/end all of everything. 1/2 of my family USED to be like that. I know there is a God, b/c all but one are no longer like that. It is the compassionate and loving God that allowed them to see the light, and be released from all the manmade HATREDs that some CLAIM are bible-based. I am a fortunate one because much of my family came out of it. Many on here that are so religious obsessed can even see straight but hope is never lost for them. When an individual has no hope, or hit rock bottom. Their dispair is so deep and they just can not move on..that is exactly when these churches hone in and take control...at a person's most vunerable state. They then become fundamentalists b/c they can now give up any rational thought...and just "leave it up to God"..and go to their bible and make it the support system they so desperately need. So while many seem to think they have a handle on as to why some people are gay (abuse as a child, or one strong parent over another, or whatever)...what is even more clearer is that fundamentalists come from tragic lives where all hope was lost until they "found God"..whether a jail sentence showed them the way, or drug abuse, or booze, or whatever rock bottom event happened. 'nuff said.