Who would you never want to receive a pint of blood from?

[Brieuse]

If you are a homosexual male, not here in the USA.

Well, our President tried to donate blood for a publicity thing. They turfed his blood out. Was a big uproar. Because he is black. Apparently a high risk too.

I just find the classifications of high risk or not laughable.

My roommate who is straight, donates blood regularly. He has had unprotected sex with at least 4 women in the last 6 months.

On the other hand, I don't even do anal sex, and my relationships have always been loving and monogamous. Yet I am a higher risk.

 

[IamRedeemed]

Black people have a high risk for sickle cell anemia. Having anemia period would make you unqualified to give blood because you need it more than someone else.

Pregnant women are also turned down. Sometimes people are turned down because giving
blood is a risk to THEM and not others.

I doubt highly he was turned down because of his skin color. You'll have to provide a link to a reputable source in order to pass on that rumor as a fact.

And as far as unprotected sex your roommate has, how would you know that? Does he let you attend? puleeeze.

PS. you can contract aids orally if your partner is a carrier, just so you know.

Well, our President tried to donate blood for a publicity thing. They turfed his blood out. Was a big uproar. Because he is black. Apparently a high risk too.

I just find the classifications of high risk or not laughable.

My roommate who is straight, donates blood regularly. He has had unprotected sex with at least 4 women in the last 6 months.

On the other hand, I don't even do anal sex, and my relationships have always been loving and monogamous. Yet I am a higher risk.

 

[HaloHope]

I couldn't vote as there sadly wasn't a "hetrosexual" option.

You see hetrosexual intercourse makes me feel a bit icky, so therefore I automatically don't really want blood from them and I personally think they should be banned from giving blood.
[/sarcasm]


This poll is fairly ridiculous and one in my opinion once more used to demonize gay people for fun. My serious answer would be if I need a blood transfusion then I don't really care where it comes from. I need blood and everyone there except the virgin and my partner is at equal risk.

 

[Miracle Storm]

If a pint of blood is about to save my life....do you think I am going to ask where it came from?

Now hopefully everything is in order and all the blood has been checked for any kind of diseases.
Hopefully I'll never need a pint of blood, if I do, I just pray that there will have been someone kind enough to donate blood and that there are no diseases.

If I remember correctly it is not the homosexual community in the US that has the highest HIV rate now...
I may be wrong.

I don't understand this Poll. I didn't vote.

This is sad, when it comes to this...

 

[Miracle Storm]

United States:

• An estimated one million people are currently living with HIV in the United States, with approximately 40,000 new infections occurring each year.
• 70 percent of these new infections occur in men and 30 percent occur in women.
• By race, 54 percent of the new infections in the United States occur among African Americans, and 64 percent of the new infections in women occur in African American women.
• 75 percent of the new infections in women are heterosexually transmitted.
• Half of all new infections in the United States occur in people 25 years of age or younger.

source http://www.until.org/statistics.shtml

Again, I do not support a homosexual lifestyle, but let's try to be real people.

I know we all get angry and the discussions can get heated, but let's be real and love one another anyway.
K?

 

[Brieuse]

Black people have a high risk for sickle cell anemia. Having anemia period would make you unqualified to give blood because you need it more than someone else.

Pregnant women are also turned down. Sometimes people are turned down because giving
blood is a risk to THEM and not others.

I doubt highly he was turned down because of his skin color. You'll have to provide a link to a reputable source in order to pass on that rumor as a fact.

And as far as unprotected sex your roommate has, how would you know that? Does he let you attend? puleeeze.

PS. you can contract aids orally if your partner is a carrier, just so you know.

he told me. No I don't watch

http://www.news24.com/News24/South_Africa/News/0,6119,2-7-1442_1630914,00.html

Yes, I am aware of the risk. Even using a condom is a risk because they are not 100% effective.

What are the Risks of Oral Sex?

Risk is classified as either being documented (transmission that has actually occurred, been investigated, and documented in the scientific literature) or theoretical (passing an infection from one person to another is possible).zSB(3,3)
While there is documented risk when having oral sex with an HIV infected partner the risk is much less than with anal or vaginal intercourse. This fact makes it very hard to calculate the actual risk with oral sex. Another factor that makes risk determination difficult is the fact that most people who engage in oral sex also engage in other types of sexual practices, namely vaginal and anal intercourse. Still, there have been document cases of HIV transmission strictly from oral sex.Which Behaviors are the Riskiest?

Oral-Penile Contact ([bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse])

Theoretical Risk:With [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse], there is a theoretical risk of transmission for the receptive partner because infected pre-[bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] ("pre-cum") fluid or sperm can get into the mouth. For the insertive partner there is a theoretical risk of infection because infected blood from a partner's bleeding gums or an open sore could come in contact with a scratch, cut, or sore on the penis.Documented Risk: Although the risk is many times less than anal or vaginal sex, HIV has been transmitted to receptive partners through [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse], even in cases when insertive partners didn't [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse].

Oral-Vaginal Contact ([bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse])

Theoretical Risk:[bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] carries a theoretical risk of HIV transmission for the insertive partner (the person who is licking or sucking the vaginal area) because infected vaginal fluids and blood can get into the mouth. (This includes, but is not limited to, menstrual blood). Likewise, there is a theoretical risk of HIV transmission during [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] for the receptive partner (the person who is having her vagina licked or sucked) if infected blood from oral sores or bleeding gums comes in contact with vulvar or vaginal cuts or sores. Documented Risk:The risk of HIV transmission during [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] is extremely low compared to vaginal and anal sex. However, there have been a few cases of HIV transmission most likely resulting from oral-vaginal sex.

Oral-Anal Contact (anilingus)

Theoretical Risk: Anilingus carries a theoretical risk of transmission for the insertive partner (the person who is licking or sucking the anus) if there is exposure to infected blood, either through bloody fecal matter (bodily waste) or cuts/sores in the anal area. Anilingus carries a theoretical risk to the receptive partner (the person who is being licked/sucked) if infected blood in saliva comes in contact with anal/rectal lining. Documented Risk: There has been one published case of HIV transmission associated with oral-anal sexual contact.

However, oral sex is a much lower risk than traditional vaginal sex.



How to be safe:

1. Go for regular HIV tests.

2. Make your partner have an HIV test before going to the next level!
3. Be sure that he isn't sleeping around. Not an easy one that. Pick your partners wisely.

4. Otherwise abstain.

If these steps are followed, I can't see any way that I am a higher risk than a fellow heterosexual.

 

[HaloHope]

If a pint of blood is about to save my life....do you think I am going to ask where it came from?

Now hopefully everything is in order and all the blood has been checked for any kind of diseases.
Hopefully I'll never need a pint of blood, if I do, I just pray that there will have been someone kind enough to donate blood and that there are no diseases.

If I remember correctly it is not the homosexual community in the US that has the highest HIV rate now...
I may be wrong.

I don't understand this Poll. I didn't vote.

This is sad, when it comes to this...

Reps to you, I may be on the other side of the argument to you but this post really rings true.

 

[IamRedeemed]

There were actually two, if not three applicable heterosexual options. I guess you'll have to pick of the three which you would least want to receive blood from if you choose to participate in the poll.

I couldn't vote as there sadly wasn't a "hetrosexual" option.

You see hetrosexual intercourse makes me feel a bit icky, so therefore I automatically don't really want blood from them and I personally think they should be banned from giving blood.
[/sarcasm]


This poll is fairly ridiculous and one in my opinion once more used to demonize gay people for fun. My serious answer would be if I need a blood transfusion then I don't really care where it comes from. I need blood and everyone there except the virgin and my partner is at equal risk.

 

[IamRedeemed]

Yes, that is right. Condoms do not give you anything but a false security. Also, getting tested regularly does NOTHING for prevention, it just lets you know sooner if you have contracted it.

I think #4 is the best option if you want to have a better opportunity (healthwise) live a long life. (of course nothing can change shortened life span by being run over by a bus) lol

Heterosexuals are not exempt either from contracting STDs
and AIDS being one of them..

On a side note: I put "spouse" on the list because believe it or not, some people probably would choose their own spouse as they may already have to use protection FROM them. I know a Christian couple, where the husband did contract the aids virus from a blood transfusion, so I am sure she would not want his blood! Sometimes there are spouses who cheat too, and protection would be highly advisable.

he told me. No I don't watch

http://www.news24.com/News24/South_Africa/News/0,6119,2-7-1442_1630914,00.html

Yes, I am aware of the risk. Even using a condom is a risk because they are not 100% effective.





However, oral sex is a much lower risk than traditional vaginal sex.



How to be safe:

1. Go for regular HIV tests.

2. Make your partner have an HIV test before going to the next level!
3. Be sure that he isn't sleeping around. Not an easy one that. Pick your partners wisely.

4. Otherwise abstain.

If these steps are followed, I can't see any way that I am a higher risk than a fellow heterosexual.

 

[IamRedeemed]

I don't agree that "it is sad" to have a poll like this. It is a realistic poll. And there are all forms of deviations in the US. The US is the Sodom and Gomorrah of the 21st century. And just who are these so called "heterosexuals" and of that number how many are junkies and how many are actually bi-sexual and group sexual or those that they are engaging with are members of the other various categories? We know the source of the disease.

If a pint of blood is about to save my life....do you think I am going to ask where it came from?

Now hopefully everything is in order and all the blood has been checked for any kind of diseases.
Hopefully I'll never need a pint of blood, if I do, I just pray that there will have been someone kind enough to donate blood and that there are no diseases.

If I remember correctly it is not the homosexual community in the US that has the highest HIV rate now...
I may be wrong.

I don't understand this Poll. I didn't vote.

This is sad, when it comes to this...

 

[IamRedeemed]

Oh, I apologize, I don't know how, but I missed the link to the news article regarding the President there and his blood being rejected.

Technically yes, it was because he was black, but for the same reason that being a "male homosexual" here in the US would be rejected. According to the article it was because it happened to be that "black" was the highest risk category based on statistics there in South Africa, for the HIV/AIDS virus, and not based on racial prejudice.

he told me. No I don't watch

http://www.news24.com/News24/South_Africa/News/0,6119,2-7-1442_1630914,00.html

Yes, I am aware of the risk. Even using a condom is a risk because they are not 100% effective.





However, oral sex is a much lower risk than traditional vaginal sex.



How to be safe:

1. Go for regular HIV tests.

2. Make your partner have an HIV test before going to the next level!
3. Be sure that he isn't sleeping around. Not an easy one that. Pick your partners wisely.

4. Otherwise abstain.

If these steps are followed, I can't see any way that I am a higher risk than a fellow heterosexual.

 

[Pogue]

Well you see that's the point, there is no guarantee it is going to make you healthy, so based on health concerns that you know about that are attributed to lifestyles, which of the choices would you NOT want to receive blood from given the choice and the only information you have about each donor?

I've been thinking about this a lot, and part of the difficulty is that I'm almost certain that I'd never be in a situation like that. Supposing I'm very ill, and I need a blood transfusion to save my life. They're probably going to give the the blood of the first suitable donor to come along. What they are not going to do is sit me down and say 'Right, Pogue, just before we save your life, you've got a choice of five donors. Here's a brief summary of their sexual histories. So which one do you pick?'
I suppose a counter-argument is that the situation is entirely hypothetical, but I still have difficulty imagining a situation where anything like that would take place. My only feeling on the matter is that I honestly would not mind where the blood came from, as long as it was suitable for me. If I was forced to choose a donor, I'd pick at random, because it doesn't matter to me.

 

[UberLutheran]

(ALL FIVE are a TYPE BLOOD MATCH FOR YOU, I figured this would go without saying since you have a choice between the 5 which to eliminate).

PS.......I am B-Negative just so you know ROFL!!!

You must have lied when they asked you if you have had sex with a man, since you do not claim to be a celebate homosexual. And don't say they never asked, as I am a blood donor (as well as have worked for several years in the medical field) and know better.

A sexually active gay male with an irradiated thyroid gland who is also diabetic?

I don't think there is such a thing.

Sorry to disappoint you, but sex is a pleasant memory long since past. My partner and I have to be content with -- love.

 

[UnitedInChrist]

There is a post around here that I think is so ridiculous as it makes no sense unless you have a false conception of those who love Christ. And the only person to choose the obvious "bad" answer, that no one else would choose because they are anti-homosexuality and pro-Jesus.
I personally believe would be the OP of that thread that selected it, trying to make it "appear"
that someone would, but hey...I could be wrong.

Anyway, I think a better poll is, who would you NEVER want to get a pint of blood from?

I wonder if the pro-homosexuals will be honest with this poll or if they will give PC answers?

PS.. I voted that I would never want to receive blood from a homosexual.
With good reason. Did you know that homosexual men are banned for life to donate
blood by the FDA?

http://www.fda.gov/cber/faq/msmdonor.htm

If your life or the life of a loved one depended on the blood of a homosexual..perhaps you would think differently. As far as being "banned for life"..very silly concept. You think all homosexuals are open with their sexuality? What about bi-sexuals? What about all the str8 guys that go out there and play around with men from time to time? Without a TEST, ANYONE would be a risk for bad blood...not just the homosexual. Anyway, trust me...MANY a homosexual is donating blood...banned for life i put in that "love the sinner hate the sin" or the "don't ask don't tell" category. It's just concept...no basis and stupid.

 

[IamRedeemed]

First of all, this was a hypothetical situation where there was a choice, not to choose whose blood you would receive, but whose you wouldn't.
And that is TRUE! People are liars! So, we don't know just because they donate that they told the truth. The Truth is I wouldn't want 4 out of 5 of the choices given based on risk factors and eliminated in the order of the risk. But in this poll of course the choice was only one elimination. The only one I would choose if the poll were reversed is the virgin's! As based on what we know, that would be the lowest risk.

on a side note, male homosexuals are banned for life to give blood because they are the highest risk, not only of having it, but for carrying it. I am sure junkies fall in the same category.

If rejecting high risk blood is an unjustifiable prejudice so be it. But try telling that to people whose children died of aids from a blood transfusion. I don't think you'll get many supporters from that arena.

If your life or the life of a loved one depended on the blood of a homosexual..perhaps you would think differently. As far as being "banned for life"..very silly concept. You think all homosexuals are open with their sexuality? What about bi-sexuals? What about all the str8 guys that go out there and play around with men from time to time? Without a TEST, ANYONE would be a risk for bad blood...not just the homosexual. Anyway, trust me...MANY a homosexual is donating blood...banned for life i put in that "love the sinner hate the sin" or the "don't ask don't tell" category. It's just concept...no basis and stupid.

 

[IamRedeemed]

Incase you didn't realize it by now, the decision of the poll would be based on the assumed fact that there were 5 compatible options of blood for you. If you don't want to participate in the poll that is fine, no one is forcing you to.

A sexually active gay male with an irradiated thyroid gland who is also diabetic?

I don't think there is such a thing.

Sorry to disappoint you, but sex is a pleasant memory long since past. My partner and I have to be content with -- love.

 

[IamRedeemed]

One would hope that NONE of us were ever in that position, and I highly doubt that any participant remotely believes that one day they will be.
The poll and situation were hypothetical.
If you don't want to participate in the poll you do not have to.

Side note: If you would pick randomly, forfeiting a choice of elimination of what may carry the highest risk factor of the choices my dear then I would have to say something to that, that would probably cause me to get an infraction or even banned, as the term for that kind of logic could be categorized as name calling, so you'll have to use your imagination as to what anyone thinking logically might reply to a statement such as that.


I think I will insert a "tulc" here....(on the side of the benefit of the doubt)

IamRedeemed (is often amazed at what lengths people will go to in order to keep up their appearances of pc. )

I've been thinking about this a lot, and part of the difficulty is that I'm almost certain that I'd never be in a situation like that. Supposing I'm very ill, and I need a blood transfusion to save my life. They're probably going to give the the blood of the first suitable donor to come along. What they are not going to do is sit me down and say 'Right, Pogue, just before we save your life, you've got a choice of five donors. Here's a brief summary of their sexual histories. So which one do you pick?'
I suppose a counter-argument is that the situation is entirely hypothetical, but I still have difficulty imagining a situation where anything like that would take place. My only feeling on the matter is that I honestly would not mind where the blood came from, as long as it was suitable for me. If I was forced to choose a donor, I'd pick at random, because it doesn't matter to me.

 

[Miracle Storm]

4get it.
n0t w0rth It. . .

 

[HaloHope]

I don't agree that "it is sad" to have a poll like this. It is a realistic poll. And there are all forms of deviations in the US. The US is the Sodom and Gomorrah of the 21st century. And just who are these so called "heterosexuals" and of that number how many are junkies and how many are actually bi-sexual and group sexual or those that they are engaging with are members of the other various categories?.

Its a simple fact that homosexuals and hetrosexuals are all at risk from HIV and blood transmitted diseases in general. A promiscious hetrosexual is just as likely (perhaps more likely seeing as more hetrosexual people suffer from HIV worldwide) as a promiscious homosexual to contract HIV. I would say it was irresposible for anyone having sex with multiple partners to give blood.

However anyone in a monogamous relationship, who knows their partner is faithful, knows they are free of any disease beforehand, hetro or homo, married or otherwise can give blood and not have to worry about giving others a disease.

It's a fairly ridiclous claim to say every hetrosexual with HIV or a another blood transmitted disease is bi-sexual or has "group sex". The majority of people are hetrosexual, have straight sex only, but probably with multiple partners and without a condom this is the main group with these diseases.

I'll ignore the Sodom and Gamorrah ranting as I see that as being irelevant to any debate on sexual immorality.

We know the source of the disease

Do enlighten me.

 

[Pogue]

One would hope that NONE of us were ever in that position, and I highly doubt that any participant remotely believes that one day they will be.
The poll and situation were hypothetical.

That's why I added the paragraph about the question being hypothetical. My first paragraph was to show that I was having difficulty with the question, because it's a situation which probably would never happen, and I don't have much of an imagination

If you don't want to participate in the poll you do not have to.

It's not a question of whether I want to- as I said, the option I would choose is not there.

Side note: If you would pick randomly, forfeiting a choice of elimination of what may carry the highest risk factor of the choices my dear then I would have to say something to that, that would probably cause me to get an infraction or even banned, as the term for that kind of logic could be categorized as name calling, so you'll have to use your imagination as to what anyone thinking logically might reply to a statement such as that.

Well, you clearly have strong feelings on this, if you feel that an honest response would be enough to get you banned. I don't understand why my post would have provoked any feelings like that. If all the options are equal, in that all the blood is suitable for me, that's all that matters. And if I was forced to choose, then yes, I'd pick at random, because all else is equal.

I think I will insert a "tulc" here....(on the side of the benefit of the doubt)

IamRedeemed (is often amazed at what lengths people will go to in order to keep up their appearances of pc. )

I don't feel that I'm being 'politically correct'- this is what I honestly believe. If I didn't honestly believe it, I wouldn't say it. What sort of answer were you looking for? I'm not going to reject healthy blood which could save my life because it came from a homosexual. I don't see any political correctness there- it's just what I think.