Who then can be saved?

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Who are you to put restrictions on whom God saves? Everyone sins. People who have been redeemed by God still sin because all that is accomplished in the act of justification is that our LEGAL standing before God has been cleansed. When we stand before God, He sees us as clean because Jesus is standing between us and Him. Our PENALTY has been paid. We, personally, are not cleansed. Jesus gives us the gift of the Holy Spirit to help us conform to the image of Christ, but as long as we are still in the presence of sin, we will still sin.

Hebrews was written to the believing Jews, and in particular, Hebrews 6 and 10 was written regarding those Jewish believers who believed Jesus was the promised messiah and believed in his sacrifice and started following Him, to turn back to the ways of Judaism with its laws and sacrifices, knowing Jesus fulfilled the law and the sacrifices, due to pressures they couldn’t bear (likely shunning by their families and other pressures put on them to force them to return). This is a situation that is almost unreproducible for us, and so those verses are taken way out of context.

I am not putting any restrictions on God, I am going by what God said verbatim . We can choose to believe His testimony and those of His apostles and prophets but sin (disobedience) separated us from God Isa 59:2 according to God, not me, thats not how we are going to be reconciled. Rev 22:14 Mat 7:21-23. My suggestion, would be instead of fighting against obeying God and His holy commandments Rom 7:12 ask His help in keeping them John 14:15-18 John 15:5-10. Although we do have free will and we can keep following those beforehand that did the same thing and didn’t work out. Heb 4:11. God does not love us more than He loved them. Rom 2:11. He loves the world and wants to save everyone, He doesn't let go of us, we let go of Him when we choose another to serve. Whoever we obey is who we serve Rom 6:16. God won’t force us to obey Him, but if we love Him Exo 20:6 John 14:15 1 John5:3 we will want to obey serve Him. Isa 56:6

 

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We are saved by grace through faith, because everyone has sinned and falls short of the glory of God and His righteousness.

The law cannot save us, the law shows us what is righteousness (right doing) Psa 119:172 and shows us our sins Rom 3:20 Rom7:7 (unrighteousness) and the need for a Savior that if we go to Him and confess (which means repent, a change in heart, and turn from or forsake Pro 28:13) He will cleanse us of all unrighteousness 1John1:9 and if we are abiding in Him John 15:5-10 He will do the work in us and be keeping His commandments Exo 32:16 Psa 78:7 John14:15-18 Col 1:29

While we are only saved by grace through faith our faith is demonstrated by our works to see if we are producing good fruit in Christ John15:5, if not our branch is cut off John15:6 as our works are of the other spirit 1 John 3:8 and not coming to Jesus because we like our sins (breaking God's laws- His version) more than we love Jesus to come to Him to heal and free us from the bondage of sin. John 3:19-21

This is the fruit of a saved person

Rev 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints; here are those who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus.

Notice it doesn't say faith in Jesus but of Jesus which is how He lived for our example 1 Peter 2:21-22 1John 2:6 and what He taught we are to live by Mat4:4

And the faith that reconciles us back to God.

Rev 22:14 Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city.

We are saved by grace through faith, our works demonstrate if our faith is genuine or not. God sorts through the wheat and tares Mat7:21-23

So if the Christian worships on Sunday instead of Saturday are they living in sin and their salvation in jeopardy if they don’t repent?

 

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So if the Christian worships on Sunday instead of Saturday are they living in sin and their salvation in jeopardy if they don’t repent?

I John 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

James 2:10 For whoever shall keep the whole law, and yet stumble in one point, he is guilty of all. 11 For He (God) who said, “Do not commit adultery,” also said, “Do not murder.” Now if you do not commit adultery, but you do murder, you have become a transgressor of the law.

God never plucked out the 4th commandment the way man did. Deut 4:13 Exo 34:28 Psa 89:34 Mat 5:18-19

Heb 10:26 For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, 27 but a certain fearful expectation of judgment, and fiery indignation which will devour the adversaries. 28 Anyone who has rejected Moses’ law dies without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. 29 Of how much worse punishment, do you suppose, will he be thought worthy who has trampled the Son of God underfoot, counted the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified a common thing, and insulted the Spirit of grace? 30 For we know Him who said, “Vengeance is Mine, I will repay,” [g]says the Lord. And again, “The Lord will judge His people.” 31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

 

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I John 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

James 2:10 For whoever shall keep the whole law, and yet stumble in one point, he is guilty of all. 11 For He (God) who said, “Do not commit adultery,” also said, “Do not murder.” Now if you do not commit adultery, but you do murder, you have become a transgressor of the law.

God never plucked out the 4th commandment the way man did.

Heb 10:26 For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, 27 but a certain fearful expectation of judgment, and fiery indignation which will devour the adversaries. 28 Anyone who has rejected Moses’ law dies without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. 29 Of how much worse punishment, do you suppose, will he be thought worthy who has trampled the Son of God underfoot, counted the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified a common thing, and insulted the Spirit of grace? 30 For we know Him who said, “Vengeance is Mine, I will repay,” [g]says the Lord. And again, “The Lord will judge His people.” 31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

So I take that as a yes. According to your belief, ALL professed Christians that worship on Sunday instead of Saturday are living in sin and could go to hell. Got it. There goes most of Christianity.

Second question. Can you provide a verse post crucifixion in the new covenant that requires the Christian to keep the 4th commandment?

 

[SabbathBlessings]

So I take that as a yes. According to your belief, ALL professed Christians that worship on Sunday instead of Saturday are living in sin and could go to hell. Got it. There goes most of Christianity.

Second question. Can you provide a verse post crucifixion in the new covenant that requires the Christian to keep the 4th commandment?

I'm not the Judge, God told us what He will judge us by James 2:11-12 Ecc 12:13-14 Rev 11:18-19 Mat 5:19-30 Rev 22:14-15, why His Ten Commandments is under His mercy seat. Exo 25:21 in heaven Rev 15:5 Rev 11:19

Jesus never told us to follow the popular crowd. He said most would though

Mat 7:13 “Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. 14 [c]Because narrow is the gate and [d]difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it.

James 2:10-11 Covers all of the Ten Commandments as does Mat 5:19 and Heb8:10 1 John5:3 John 14:15 Rev 14:12 Rev 22:14 etc , why everyone who was faithful to God kept every Sabbath decades after the Cross. Acts 13:42 Acts 13:44 Acts 18:4 Acts 15:21 just as Jesus said Mat 24:20 Isa 66:23. The Sabbath was never changed by God, but by man Dan7:25 and everyone who complains about the RC church still obeys them over God when keeping Sunday over God's commandment, the only day God sanctified and is a commandment of God. Whoever we obey is who we serve Rom 6:16

It is well to remind the Presbyterians, Baptists, Methodists, and all other Christians, that the Bible does not support them anywhere in their observance of Sunday. Sunday is an institution of the Roman Catholic Church, and those who observe the day observe a commandment of the Catholic Church.
—Priest Brady, in an address, reported in the Elizabeth, NJ ‘News’ on March 18, 1903.

Q. Must not a sensible Protestant doubt seriously, when he finds that even the Bible is not followed as a rule by his co-religionists?

A. Surely, when he sees them baptize infants, abrogate the Jewish Sabbath, and observe Sunday for which [pg. 7] there is no Scriptural authority; when he finds them neglect to wash one another's feet, which is expressly commanded, and eat blood and things strangled, which are expressly prohibited in Scripture. He must doubt, if he think at all. ...

Q. Should not the Protestant doubt when he finds that he himself holds tradition as a guide?

A. Yes, if he would but reflect that he has nothing but Catholic Tradition for keeping the Sunday holy; ...
—Controversial Catechism by Stephen Keenan, New Edition, revised by Rev. George Cormack, published in London by Burns & Oates, Limited - New York, Cincinnati, Chicago: Benzinger Brothers, 1896, pages 6, 7.

... you may read the Bible from Genesis to Revelation, and you will not find a single line authorizing the sanctification of Sunday. The Scriptures enforce the religious observance of Saturday, a day which we never sanctify.
—The Faith of Our Fathers, by James Cardinal Gibbons, Archbishop of Baltimore, 88th edition, page 89. Originally published in 1876, republished and Copyright 1980 by TAN Books and Publishers, Inc., pages 72-73.

If Protestants would follow the Bible, they would worship God on the Sabbath Day. In keeping the Sunday they are following a law of the Catholic Church.
—Albert Smith, Chancellor of the Archdiocese of Baltimore, replying for the Cardinal, in a letter dated February 10, 1920.

What Important Question Does the Papacy Ask Protestants?
Protestants have repeatedly asked the papacy, "How could you dare to change God's law?" But the question posed to Protestants by the Catholic church is even more penetrating.

Here it is officially: You will tell me that Saturday was the Jewish Sabbath, but that the Christian Sabbath has been changed to Sunday. Changed! but by whom? Who has authority to change an express commandment of Almighty God? When God has spoken and said, Thou shalt keep holy the seventh day, who shall dare to say, Nay, thou mayest work and do all manner of worldly business on the seventh day; but thou shalt keep holy the first day in its stead?

This is a most important question, which I know not how you can answer. You are a Protestant, and you profess to go by the Bible and the Bible only; and yet in so important a matter as the observance of one day in seven as a holy day, you go against the plain letter of the Bible, and put another day in the place of that day which the Bible has commanded.

The command to keep holy the seventh day is one of the ten commandments; you believe that the other nine are still binding; who gave you authority to tamper with the fourth? If you are consistent with your own principles, if you really follow the Bible and the Bible only, you ought to be able to produce some portion of the New Testament in which this fourth commandment is expressly altered.
—Library of Christian Doctrine: Why Don't You Keep Holy the Sabbath-Day? (London: Burns and Oates, Ltd.), pp. 3, 4.

 

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I'm not the Judge, God told us what He will judge us by James 2:11-12 Ecc 12:13-14 Rev 11:18-19 Mat 5:19-30 Rev 22:14-15, why His Ten Commandments is under His mercy seat. Exo 25:21 in heaven Rev 15:5 Rev 11:19

Jesus never told us to follow the popular crowd. He said most would through

Mat 7:13 “Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. 14 [c]Because narrow is the gate and [d]difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it.

So no post crucifixion verse that requires the Christian to keep the 4th commandment. You have an unsupported and unbiblical theology. You verse mining does not help you.

I’m going to give you another chance. Please post a post resurrection verse that requires the Christian to keep the 4th commandment. You promote sabbath keeping even in your own screen name so you must have at least one post resurrection verse.

 

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So no post crucifixion verse that requires the Christian to keep the 4th commandment. You have an unsupported and unbiblical theology. You verse mining does not help you.

I’m going to give you another chance. Please post a post resurrection verse that requires the Christian to keep the 4th commandment. You promote sabbath keeping even in your own screen name so you must have at least one post resurrection verse.

Please post a Scripture where Jesus said we do not need to keep the Sabbath commandment. I do not need to disprove the Testimony of God Exo 31:18 If you wish to do that, it can be between you and God. Jesus said follow Me, Jesus who is God kept the Sabbath and all of the commandments. As did God Exo 20:11, as did the apostles Acts 13:42 Acts 13:44 Acts 15:21 Acts 16:13 Acts 18:4 as did His faithful disciples Luke 23:56. And God said it continues on Isa 66:22-23 If that's not good company for you by all means do something different.

 

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Please post a Scripture where Jesus said we do not need to keep the Sabbath commandment. I do not need to disprove the Testimony of God Exo 31:18 If you wish to do that, it can be between you and God. Jesus said follow Me, Jesus kept the Sabbath and all of the commandments. As did God, as did the apostles as did His faithful disciples. If that's not good company for you by all means do something different.

So you cannot post a post crucifixion verse that requires the Christian to keep the 4th commandment. As we have talked before the terms of the old covenant were met and exceeded by Christ sacrifice on the cross. The new covenant, like a new contract, has different terms and all terms are clearly listed. The terms of the old contract do not transfer to the new contract unless is specifically stated.

The 4th commandment is not stated in the new covenant because Jesus as God fulfilled (met the requirements) the law and Jesus became the Lord of the Sabbath and our sabbath rest. So unless you can produce a post crucifixion verse extending the terms of the 4th commandment to the new covenant then you have no foundation to your argument. Your argument is dead on arrival.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

So you cannot post a post crucifixion verse that requires the Christian to keep the 4th commandment. As we have talked before the terms of the old covenant were met and exceeded by Christ sacrifice on the cross. The new covenant, like a new contract, has different terms and all terms are clearly listed. The terms of the old contract do not transfer to the new contract unless is specifically stated.

The 4th commandment is not stated in the new covenant because Jesus as God fulfilled (met the requirements) the law and Jesus became the Lord of the Sabbath and our sabbath rest. So unless you can produce a post crucifixion verse extending the terms of the 4th commandment to the new covenant then you have no foundation to your argument. Your argument is dead on arrival.

God said He wrote His laws in the New Covenant. Heb 8:10 2Cor3:3 The 4th commandment is part of God's laws breaking one we break them all James 2:11-12 Mat5:19. Jesus said quoting from the unit of Ten when we keep our laws.traditions over God’s commandments one worships Him in vain. Mat 15:3-14 Mark 7:7-13. You would have to disprove God, that the Sabbath is not His commandment when He, God of the Universe who personally wrote and spoke them and claimed them as His said they are Deut 4:13 Exo 20:6. Jesus said it was Lawful to do good on the Sabbath and never said not to keep His commandments. Fulfilled does not mean destroyed or ended, the opposite of what He said - it means to fill full like a wedding covenant, why He said not to break or teach others to break the least of these commandments because its still sin to worship other gods, vain His holy name, bow to idols, break His holy Sabbath day, murder our neighbor, covet, or break the least of these. Seems like we need to have room for faith- God of the Universe said Remember, I do not believe that translates into forget.

Anyway, believe what you wish, all will get sorted out soon enough, When Jesus returns our decisions will be sealed Rev 22:11

 

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God said He wrote His laws in the New Covenant. Heb 8:10 2Cor3:3

Let’s look at your verse mining.

“For in finding fault with the people, He says, “Behold, days are coming, says the Lord, When I will bring about a new covenant With the house of Israel and the house of Judah, “For this is the covenant which I will make with the house of Israel After those days, declares the Lord: I will put My laws into their minds, And write them on their hearts. And I will be their God, And they shall be My people.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭8‬:‭8‬, ‭10‬ ‭NASB2020‬‬

Hebrews 8:8-10 For in finding fault with the people, He says, “BEHOLD, DAYS ARE COMING, SAYS THE LORD, WHEN I WILL BRING ABOUT A NEW COVENANT WITH THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL AND THE HOUSE OF JUDAH, NOT LIKE THE COVENANT WH | New American Standard Bible - NA

For in finding fault with the people, He says, “BEHOLD, DAYS ARE COMING, SAYS THE LORD, WHEN I WILL BRING ABOUT A NEW COVENANT WITH THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL AND THE HOUSE OF JUDAH, NOT LIKE THE COVENANT WH

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This is the current covenant with the House if Israel that will be completed at the end of the time of the gentiles. The law was not given to the gentiles but only to Israel. The covenants to the church ( the body of Christ) is the covenant of blood depicted below.

“for this is My blood of the covenant, which is being poured out for many for forgiveness of sins.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭26‬:‭28‬ ‭NASB2020‬‬

Matthew 26:28 for this is My blood of the covenant, which is being poured out for many for forgiveness of sins. | New American Standard Bible - NASB (NASB2020) | Download The Bible App Now

for this is My blood of the covenant, which is being poured out for many for forgiveness of sins.

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“And in the same way He took the cup after they had eaten, saying, “This cup, which is poured out for you, is the new covenant in My blood.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭22‬:‭20‬ ‭NASB2020‬‬

Luke 22:20 And in the same way He took the cup after they had eaten, saying, “This cup, which is poured out for you, is the new covenant in My blood. | New American Standard Bible - NASB (NASB2020) | Download The Bible App Now

And in the same way He took the cup after they had eaten, saying, “This cup, which is poured out for you, is the new covenant in My blood.

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The 4th commandment is part of God's laws breaking one we break them all James 2:11-12 Mat5:19.

“If, however, you are fulfilling the royal law according to the Scripture, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself,” you are doing well. But if you show partiality, you are committing sin and are convicted by the Law as violators. For whoever keeps the whole Law, yet stumbles in one point, has become guilty of all. For He who said, “Do not commit adultery,” also said, “Do not murder.” Now if you do not commit adultery, but do murder, you have become a violator of the Law.”
‭‭James‬ ‭2‬:‭8‬-‭11‬ ‭NASB2020‬‬

James 2:8-11 If, however, you are fulfilling the royal law according to the Scripture, “YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF,” you are doing well. But if you show partiality, you are committing sin and are con | New American Standard Bible - NASB

If, however, you are fulfilling the royal law according to the Scripture, “YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF,” you are doing well. But if you show partiality, you are committing sin and are con

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James contrast the royal law (that if Christ) vs the Jewish law. It doesn’t look good for those that follow the law but pretty good for those that follow the royal law. The Christian follows the royal law. This verse does not help your case and is another out of context verse from your collection.

““Do not presume that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish, but to fulfill. For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke of a letter shall pass from the Law, until all is accomplished! Therefore, whoever nullifies one of the least of these commandments, and teaches others to do the same, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever keeps and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. “For I say to you that unless your righteousness far surpasses that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will not enter the kingdom of heaven.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭5‬:‭17‬-‭20‬ ‭NASB2020‬‬

Matthew 5:19-20 Therefore, whoever nullifies one of the least of these commandments, and teaches others to do the same, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever keeps and teaches them, he shall be | New American Standard Bible - N

Therefore, whoever nullifies one of the least of these commandments, and teaches others to do the same, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever keeps and teaches them, he shall be

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So does your righteousness surpass that of the scribes and the Pharisees? Because if you don’t you are in trouble. Nothing here about the 4th commandment required for the Christians.

Again, please post a post crucifixion verse that states that the Christian is required to keep the 4th commandment. One, just one?

 

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Let’s look at your verse mining.

“For in finding fault with the people, He says, “Behold, days are coming, says the Lord, When I will bring about a new covenant With the house of Israel and the house of Judah, “For this is the covenant which I will make with the house of Israel After those days, declares the Lord: I will put My laws into their minds, And write them on their hearts. And I will be their God, And they shall be My people.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭8‬:‭8‬, ‭10‬ ‭NASB2020‬‬

Hebrews 8:8-10 For in finding fault with the people, He says, “BEHOLD, DAYS ARE COMING, SAYS THE LORD, WHEN I WILL BRING ABOUT A NEW COVENANT WITH THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL AND THE HOUSE OF JUDAH, NOT LIKE THE COVENANT WH | New American Standard Bible - NA

For in finding fault with the people, He says, “BEHOLD, DAYS ARE COMING, SAYS THE LORD, WHEN I WILL BRING ABOUT A NEW COVENANT WITH THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL AND THE HOUSE OF JUDAH, NOT LIKE THE COVENANT WH

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This is the current covenant with the House if Israel that will be completed at the end of the time of the gentiles. The law was not given to the gentiles but only to Israel. The covenants to the church ( the body of Christ) is the covenant of blood depicted below.

So God writing His laws in the hearts and minds of His people, I will be their God, they will be My people and I will remember their sins no more Heb 8:10 Heb 10:16-17 is not a covenant He made with you, got it. Thankfully, not what I feel and know I need to be in a covenant relationship to be heirs to the promises Gal 2:26-29. I guess I can understand why the issue with God's laws Rom 8:7-8

“for this is My blood of the covenant, which is being poured out for many for forgiveness of sins.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭26‬:‭28‬ ‭NASB2020‬‬

Matthew 26:28 for this is My blood of the covenant, which is being poured out for many for forgiveness of sins. | New American Standard Bible - NASB (NASB2020) | Download The Bible App Now

for this is My blood of the covenant, which is being poured out for many for forgiveness of sins.

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“And in the same way He took the cup after they had eaten, saying, “This cup, which is poured out for you, is the new covenant in My blood.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭22‬:‭20‬ ‭NASB2020‬‬

Luke 22:20 And in the same way He took the cup after they had eaten, saying, “This cup, which is poured out for you, is the new covenant in My blood. | New American Standard Bible - NASB (NASB2020) | Download The Bible App Now

And in the same way He took the cup after they had eaten, saying, “This cup, which is poured out for you, is the new covenant in My blood.

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It doesn't say the covenant to the Gentiles, and this is Him ratifying His covenant, Without blood Heb 8:10 could not be ratified

“If, however, you are fulfilling the royal law according to the Scripture, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself,” you are doing well. But if you show partiality, you are committing sin and are convicted by the Law as violators. For whoever keeps the whole Law, yet stumbles in one point, has become guilty of all. For He who said, “Do not commit adultery,” also said, “Do not murder.” Now if you do not commit adultery, but do murder, you have become a violator of the Law.”
‭‭James‬ ‭2‬:‭8‬-‭11‬ ‭NASB2020‬‬

James 2:8-11 If, however, you are fulfilling the royal law according to the Scripture, “YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF,” you are doing well. But if you show partiality, you are committing sin and are con | New American Standard Bible - NASB

If, however, you are fulfilling the royal law according to the Scripture, “YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF,” you are doing well. But if you show partiality, you are committing sin and are con

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James contrast the royal law (that if Christ) vs the Jewish law. It doesn’t look good for those that follow the law but pretty good for those that follow the royal law. The Christian follows the royal law. This verse does not help your case and is another out of context verse from your collection.

The royal law (greatest commandments) is the Ten Commandments summarized Rom 13:9, James is contrasting how God does not show partiality and compares that to the law and the whole law James is referring to is where thou shalt not murder comes from and thou shalt not commit adultery. Where do we find this whole law that breaking one of these we break them all. The Ten Commandments Exo 20:1-17 the covenant God said He would not alter Psa 89:34 Mat 5:18

““Do not presume that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish, but to fulfill. For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke of a letter shall pass from the Law, until all is accomplished! Therefore, whoever nullifies one of the least of these commandments, and teaches others to do the same, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever keeps and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. “For I say to you that unless your righteousness far surpasses that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will not enter the kingdom of heaven.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭5‬:‭17‬-‭20‬ ‭NASB2020‬‬

Matthew 5:19-20 Therefore, whoever nullifies one of the least of these commandments, and teaches others to do the same, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever keeps and teaches them, he shall be | New American Standard Bible - N

Therefore, whoever nullifies one of the least of these commandments, and teaches others to do the same, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever keeps and teaches them, he shall be

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So does your righteousness surpass that of the scribes and the Pharisees? Because if you don’t you are in trouble. Nothing here about the 4th commandment required for the Christians.

Again, please post a post crucifixion verse that states that the Christian is required to keep the 4th commandment. One, just one?

So please show me one Scripture where the Sabbath is not one of God's commandments, just one. Why would I try to disprove God's own Testimony Psa 89:34 Mat 5:18-19 Deut 4:13 Exo 31:18 that sits under His mercy seat we are told going away from there is no light i.e. danger Isa8:20. If you feel you disprove God, again, that can be between you and He, it has nothing to do with me. I am a servant of God, He tells me His commandments, I choose to take Him at His word. Jesus said to live by every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God quoting OT Mat4:4, that when we place our traditions over the commandments of God quoting from the Ten one worships Him in vain. This argument is not with me. Hopefully one day you will see that before He comes because at that time our decisions are sealed Rev 22:11

 

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So God writing His laws in the hearts and minds of His people, is not a covenant He made with you, got it. Thankfully, that's not what I believe. I guess I can understand why the issue with God's laws Rom 8:7-8

It doesn't say the covenant to the Gentiles, and this is Him ratifying His covenant, Without blood Heb 8:10 could not be ratified

The royal law (greatest commandments) is the Ten Commandments summarized Rom 13:9, James is contrasting how God does not show partiality and compares that to the law and the whole law James is referring to is where thou shalt not murder comes from and thou shalt not commit adultery. Where do we find this whole law that breaking one of these we break them all. The Ten Commandments Exo 20:1-17 the covenant God said He would not alter Psa 89:34 Mat 5:18

So please show me one Scripture where the Sabbath is not one of God's commandments, just one. Why would I try to disprove God's own Testimony Psa 89:34 Mat 5:18-19 Deut 4:13 Exo 31:18 that sits under His mercy seat. If you feel you can, be my guest. I am a servant of God, He tells me His commandments, I choose to take Him at His word. Jesus said to live by every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God quoting OT Mat4:4, this argument is not with me. Hopefully one day you will see that.

Wow. The extent that you will go to place the monkey of the bondage of the law back on the Christian back is amazing. Once again, you have NO post crucifixion verse to prove that the 4th commandment is required of the Christian. I’ve already wasted my time addressing your out of context verses and the verses addressing the old covenant audience which do not apply to the new covenant. All of the verses you posted above have been addressed and debunked. Get a bit creative and stop your c&p. Post a post crucifixion verse that requires the Christian to keep the 4th commandment. That is all you have to do. The extended c&p and the wall of text does not work.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Wow. The extent that you will go to place the monkey of the bondage of the law back on the Christian back is amazing. Once again, you have NO post crucifixion verse to prove that the 4th commandment is required of the Christian. I’ve already wasted my times addressing your out of context verses and the verses addressing the old covenant audience which do not apply to the new covenant. Get a bit creative and stop your c&p.

Thankfully you are not the judge God is and He knows who is using His Word out of context. You still haven't gotten past Psa 89:34 your position makes God not keeps His promises and as if all examples of Sabbath keeping decades after the Cross and for eternity are just somehow not written in the Bible, when they are and an example of what someone faithful to God does . And the fact you have NO verse where God said the Sabbath is not one of His commandments. That's what I would be concerned about forgetting something He had the foresight to say Remember because He knew everyone would forget. Forgetting something important to our heavenly Father, the Holy Day of the Lord Isa 58:13 that when profaning, who are we really profaning Eze 22:26 He asked us to Remember is not an example of faith. The reply you are responding to was not a c/p but a lot of prayerful study of God's Word, but if that makes you feel better or changes the Scriptures, you are free to believe as you wish.

 

[Hentenza]

Thankfully you are not the judge God is and He knows who is using His Word out of context. You still haven't gotten past Psa 89:34 your position makes God not keeps His promises and as if all examples of Sabbath keeping decades after the Cross and for eternity are just somehow not written in the Bible, when they are and an example of what someone faithful to God does . And the fact you have NO verse where God said the Sabbath is not one of His commandments. That's what I would be concerned about forgetting something He had the foresight to say Remember because He knew everyone would forget. Forgetting something important to our heavenly Father, He asked us to Remember is not an example of faith. No c/p here.

Still no post resurrection verse that requires the Christian to keep the 4th commandment.

““I will not violate My covenant, Nor will I alter the utterance of My lips. “Once I have sworn by My holiness; I will not lie to David.”
‭‭Psalm‬ ‭89‬:‭34‬-‭35‬ ‭NASB2020‬‬

Psalm 89:34-35 “I will not violate My covenant, Nor will I alter the utterance of My lips. “Once I have sworn by My holiness; I will not lie to David. | New American Standard Bible - NASB (NASB2020) | Download The Bible App Now

“I will not violate My covenant, Nor will I alter the utterance of My lips. “Once I have sworn by My holiness; I will not lie to David.

bible.com

Read scripture in context. God here is not going to lie to David by altering His covenant or utterances. Again, this verse does not help you. You have to include the audience as part of context to know who the verse is addressed to.

BTW. I’m proud of you. No c&p.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Still no post resurrection verse that requires the Christian to keep the 4th commandment.

““I will not violate My covenant, Nor will I alter the utterance of My lips. “Once I have sworn by My holiness; I will not lie to David.”
‭‭Psalm‬ ‭89‬:‭34‬-‭35‬ ‭NASB2020‬‬

Psalm 89:34-35 “I will not violate My covenant, Nor will I alter the utterance of My lips. “Once I have sworn by My holiness; I will not lie to David. | New American Standard Bible - NASB (NASB2020) | Download The Bible App Now

“I will not violate My covenant, Nor will I alter the utterance of My lips. “Once I have sworn by My holiness; I will not lie to David.

bible.com

Read scripture in context. God here is not going to lie to David by altering His covenant or utterances. Again, this verse does not help you. You have to include the audience as part of context to know who the verse is addressed to.

BTW. I’m proud of you. No c&p.

Psa 89:30 “If his sons forsake My law
And do not walk in My judgments,
31 If they [f]break My statutes
And do not keep My commandments,
32 Then I will punish their transgression with the rod,
And their iniquity with stripes.
33 Nevertheless My lovingkindness I will not [g]utterly take from him,
Nor [h]allow My faithfulness to fail.
34 My covenant I will not break,
Nor alter the word that has gone out of My lips.

Exo 20:1 20 And God spoke all these words, saying: Exo 20:1-17

Deut 4:13 So He declared to you His covenant which He commanded you to perform, the Ten Commandments; and He wrote them on two tablets of stone.

Psa 119:89 Forever, O Lord,
Your word [a]is settled in heaven.

Where is the Ten Commandments- in heaven where His word is settled under His mercy seat Heb 8:1-5 Rev 11:`19 Rev 15:5 because man is not greater than the Testimony of God Exo 31:18 despite what tone might think . Isa8:20