sandpiper22
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There's this idea that boggles my mind for quite a while and I'd like to hear your opinions about it:
First off, imagine the situation of a person A: You're born in some poor, remote part of India. You're raised fully in hinduist faith. Your all life you basically know nothing but the hindu gods, which you also worship. One day there's this white guy who comes around and starts preaching something about one God, which is actually a three at once or something, but you don't really understand him, it doesn't really catch you by the heart or anything. Few days later he wanders off. After some years, you get ill and you die.
Now: you stand before the judgement of God. You heard the word of God but you didn't accept it. Are you going to Hell?
Now, alternatively, person B: You're born to atheistic family in a very atheistic western country, let's say Norway. You're raised in a profoundly atheistic way, involving absolutely zero room for spirituality. When you grow in age, you maybe encounter some people who practice the religion, but you're lead to believe they're some kind of lunatics and to stay away from them. Maybe someone from your work tries to talk you into the Christianity, but you're provided with scientific evidence for any question you may have about the world, and since your parents didn't put a seed of the spirituality in you as you were growing up, you never get to question it. You grow old and you die.
Now: you stand before the judgement of God. You heard the word of God but you didn't accept it. Are you going to Hell?
I've been Christian my whole life and I've spent plenty of time reading Bible. Personally, the idea of either of these people going to some kind of 'eternal torment' goes completely against the idea of the righteous and merciful God that Bible preaches. I understand that there's no verse, no simple line to prove this, but both logically and spiritually I wholeheartedly believe in some kind of 'backdoor trick' (as atheists opposing this idea would've called it) of a last-second of your life revelation of Jesus who you get to freely accept and go to Heaven, regardless of where or how you lived.
What do you guys think?
Your premise is they go to hell because they 'heard the word of God' and did not accept it, therefore, I voted 'none'.
To enter heaven, one must be 'born from above' (Read about Nicodemus...John 3 kjv...that is, if you are seriously bothered by this and want to be satisified) and this New Birth is not premised on anything that man does, it is predicated on God's will for that man to be born from above (Read John 1:12-13 kjv), and the New Birth is not for every Tom, Harry, and Jane of the fallen human race. The New Birth is only for those who are God's own, His people, His chosen ones out of a sin-laden humanity (and I'm not talking about Israel, either, which is simply a picture of His elect people). It is for these, His people, that Jesus Christ came, and shed His blood for. In fact Matthew 1:21 specifically says that His Name shall be Jesus because He shall save HIS people from their sins.
The New Birth is applied to God's man by Direct Operation of the Holy Spirit and is not dependent on any Christian's obedience and ability to preach the gospel, go to far-away lands, leave heart and hearth, to 'serve' Christ. The New Birth is not dependent on a person's ability to posssess a Bible, or go to church, or obey the gospel, none that man can do. It is absolutely and uniquely the Spirit's work, none of man's.
Therefore, your premises are wrong.
None of those two will go to hell..............based on their not having accepted the gospel or the word of God. If they go to hell, it will be because they are not God's own.
Who are God's own ?
Those whose names He wrote in His book of life from the foundation of the world (read Revelation 13:8 and 17:8 paying close attention to the use of the negatives in both verses). In fact, Paul in Ephesians 1:4 goes further and says "from before the foundation of the world".
All of these elect or chosen were put IN CHRIST positionally, were IN CHRIST when He was born as a sinless infant, grew up fully obedient to God IN CHRIST, was crucified together with Christ (Galatians 2:20), died IN CHRIST, was resurrected IN CHRIST, and is now seated in heavenly places IN CHRIST JESUS (Ephesians 2:6).
I am talking of the child of God's position in Christ as his representative.
So, a cannibal never heard of Christ and lived his whole life as a cannibal and animist ?
Whose fault is that ? His ?
Most assuredly not because in his lifetime no gospel preacher came to him with the good news of a finished salvation, and most assuredly not because it is God who is pleased to choose whom He will as His own.
Is he saved ? Redeemed ?
If he is, not by his merit, but by the merits of Christ, and the relationship God established with him, in Christ Jesus, from the foundation of the world.
If he is not, then God is sovereign and does what he will in the army of heaven and of earth...a proud king named Nebuchadnezzar learned that the hard way. Look for him in the book of Daniel.
But what about all those people he slaughtered, butchered, and ate ?
What sin is not covered by the blood of Christ except the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit, and that blaspehmy is attributing the works of God to the works of the devil ?
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