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Who is the prophet in Deuteronomy 18:18?

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What does it mean in Aramaic?

Quote the Hadith.



Why not formulate your own response?
In Aramaic Allah means "The god ascends." Allah is the short form of Alilah. Al/il/ah. Yahwah in Aramaic means: "Life Began."
 
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In Aramaic Allah means "The god ascends." Allah is the short form of Alilah. Al/il/ah. Yahwah in Aramaic means: "Life Began."

So according to you Jesus pbuh cried out, "My the god ascends, my the god ascends, why have you forsaken me", is that correct?

In Hebrew .."My oak, my oak, why have you forsaken me" ?

Where in those Hadith does it mention Islam defeats Christendom at Dabiq?
 
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So according to you Jesus pbuh cried out, "My the god ascends, my the god ascends, why have you forsaken me", is that correct?

In Hebrew .."My oak, my oak, why have you forsaken me" ?

Where in those Hadith does it mention Islam defeats Christendom at Dabiq?
Yahshua cried out: “Eli, Eli, lema sabachthani?” (which means “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?”).


History of the name Jesus:

The English form "Jesus" was not seen nor spoken until after the year 1525, when Sir William Tyndale, a Protestant Reformer from Oxford, England; invented it.




Yahshua worked to fulfill prophecy by establishing God's Holy Name in the New Testament. But Trinitarian Christians burned the originals to establish their own version of scriptures. If this is not true, then show me God's actual personal name in the New Testament.



Hebrews 2:12
He says, “I will declare your name to my brothers and sisters; in the assembly I will sing your praises.”


Because the Galileans always dropped their 'ayins', hence "y'shu," for which in the talmud many Jewish people use as an acronym meaning “may his name be blotted out”.


The letters in "YSHU" stood for the sentence, "Yemach Shmo u'Zikro" meaning "may his name be blotted out" (from the scroll of life). According to a Jewish proverb, the worst death is eternal anonymity.




Honor His Name
For thousands of years the refusing to use a person's name has been a direct form of dishonor. Shortening the name, replacing the name, distorting the name, all are signs of dishonor.


Honorable Mention
An “honorable mention” is a title of distinction given to a person worthy of mention. Upon honoring the person their name is mentioned, so their name has a place of honor known among the people.


Malachi 1:6
“A son honors his father, and a slave his master. If I am a father, where is the honor due me? If I am a master, where is the respect due me?” says [the LORD / Yahwah] Almighty. “It is you priests who show contempt for my name. “But you ask, ‘How have we shown contempt for your name?’




Malachi 2:2
If you do not listen, and if you do not resolve to honor my name,” says [the LORD / Yahwah Almighty], “I will send a curse on you, and I will curse your blessings. Yes, I have already cursed them, because you have not resolved to honor me.
 
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Exodus 23:21
Pay attention to him and listen to what he says. Do not rebel against him; he will not forgive your rebellion, since my Name is in him.

Yah / wah
Yah / shua


Jesus: The English form "Jesus" was not seen nor spoken until after the year 1525,
when Sir William Tyndale a Protestant Reformer from Oxford, England invented it!
His name in English is Yahshua. What you have is Greek forms of the name with a modern Hebrew twist. Hebrew did not have an e vowel until after 200 AD.


In regards to various stages of Hebrew, the vowel change came after the second century AD. The vowel e was officially adopted by the Masoretes in the sixth century AD.



The name Jesus is derived from y'shu, the letter s added at the end of (Jesu-s) is only a male gender designation in Greek. The "Je" in Greek is for the letter Y in Hebrew.
 
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Yahwah reveals His name to Moses
Exodus 3:13-15.

13 And Moses said to Elohiym, “Suppose I go to the siblings of the Israelites and say to them, 'The Elohiym of your forefathers has sent me to you,' and they ask me, 'What is His name?' What shall I say to them?”
14 And Elohiym said to Moses, “The Living that Lives. This is what you are to say to the Israelites: 'The Living has sent me to you.”
15 And Elohiym also said to Moses, “Say to the Israelites, 'Yahwah, the Elohiym of your forefathers; the Elohiym of Abraham, the Elohiym of Isaac and the Elohiym of Jacob has sent me to you.' That’s my name forever, the name by which I’m to be remembered, from generation to generation.”


At one time the Arabs knew God as Yahwah, but because Yahwah would not curse the Jews for them, they stopped speaking God's name. That is why Mohammad did not know the name of God. The Pagan Arabs already believed that Allah was a god, so Mohammad only needed to convince them that Allah was the only God. Allah was the least offensive god to the Arabs and that is why Mohammad picked that gods name.

Alilah was the rising morning sun god. That is why the name means: The god ascends.
 
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Deuteronomy 18:18 New International Version (NIV)
18 I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their fellow Israelites, and I will put my words in his mouth. He will tell them everything I command him.

And that is why Yahshua is called "The Word of God."
 
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Yahshua cried out: “Eli, Eli, lema sabachthani?” (which means “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?”).

Alaha/Elaha was what he said in Aramaic.

ܘܒܬܫܥ ܫܥܝܢ ܩܥܐ ܝܫܘܥ ܒܩܠܐ ܪܡܐ ܘܐܡܪ ܐܝܠ ܐܝܠ ܠܡܢܐ ܫܒܩܬܢܝ ܕܐܝܬܝܗ 'ܐܠܗܝ ܐܠܗܝ' ܠܡܢܐ ܫܒܩܬܢܝ


https://www.atour.com/cgi-bin/dictionary.cgi?string=god&Search_Field=Meaning

Similarly, when a Muslim says "My God" in Arabic, they say, "Ilahi/elahee", My God. Exactly the same.

The rest of your post was informative.

Deuteronomy 18:18 New International Version (NIV)
18 I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their fellow Israelites, and I will put my words in his mouth. He will tell them everything I command him.

And that is why Yahshua is called "The Word of God."

The mainstream Christian view is, he was part of a triune god, a individual member, but fully 100% god. It then makes no sense to think, 100% God had to put his words into 100% God's mouth :/

Furthermore, if he was the Prophet in Deut 18:18, then why didn't John the Baptist know about it when he was asked about Jesus pbuh? After all, he was apparently sent to clear the way for him. Also in Acts 3:17-23 explains Jesus pbuh was apparently spoken about in the Torah as a suffering servant, and now he must remain in Heaven until he returns as the promised Messiah as Luke thinks he is the Prophet spoken about in Deut 18:18.

And finally 18:18 finishes with, "He will tell them everything I command him." yet Jesus pbuh specifically made a point of having lots to tell the Israelites, but they were NOT ready and would have to wait for a human Prophet to come after him, a 'spirit of truth'. He is distinct and separate from the 'Holy Spirit', which does not say anything at all, it apparently just resides within the hearts of true Christians giving them the conviction of faith.
 
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Alaha/Elaha was what he said in Aramaic.

ܘܒܬܫܥ ܫܥܝܢ ܩܥܐ ܝܫܘܥ ܒܩܠܐ ܪܡܐ ܘܐܡܪ ܐܝܠ ܐܝܠ ܠܡܢܐ ܫܒܩܬܢܝ ܕܐܝܬܝܗ 'ܐܠܗܝ ܐܠܗܝ' ܠܡܢܐ ܫܒܩܬܢܝ


https://www.atour.com/cgi-bin/dictionary.cgi?string=god&Search_Field=Meaning

Similarly, when a Muslim says "My God" in Arabic, they say, "Ilahi/elahee", My God. Exactly the same.

The rest of your post was informative.



The mainstream Christian view is, he was part of a triune god, a individual member, but fully 100% god. It then makes no sense to think, 100% God had to put his words into 100% God's mouth :/

Furthermore, if he was the Prophet in Deut 18:18, then why didn't John the Baptist know about it when he was asked about Jesus pbuh? After all, he was apparently sent to clear the way for him. Also in Acts 3:17-23 explains Jesus pbuh was apparently spoken about in the Torah as a suffering servant, and now he must remain in Heaven until he returns as the promised Messiah as Luke thinks he is the Prophet spoken about in Deut 18:18.

And finally 18:18 finishes with, "He will tell them everything I command him." yet Jesus pbuh specifically made a point of having lots to tell the Israelites, but they were NOT ready and would have to wait for a human Prophet to come after him, a 'spirit of truth'. He is distinct and separate from the 'Holy Spirit', which does not say anything at all, it apparently just resides within the hearts of true Christians giving them the conviction of faith.
Middle East Christian bibles have the word Allah in them so as to not offend the Muslims. The actual bible text does not have Allah in them. Yahwah is not in the Quran, and Allah is not a concept of God in the Bible.
 
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Middle East Christian bibles have the word Allah in them so as to not offend the Muslims. The actual bible text does not have Allah in them. Yahwah is not in the Quran, and Allah is not a concept of God in the Bible.
Then it will pain you to know Jewish Scholars and those Jews who can look past the current political climate, acknowledge Muslims and Jews worship the same ALLAH swt and for this reason, they are allowed to enter and offer their prayers in a Mosque, but are forbidden to even look towards a Church dedicated to a triune god, a concept never spoken about by ANY of their Prophets and Messengers or found in their religious texts.

 
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Then it will pain you to know Jewish Scholars and those Jews who can look past the current political climate, acknowledge Muslims and Jews worship the same ALLAH swt and for this reason, they are allowed to enter and offer their prayers in a Mosque, but are forbidden to even look towards a Church dedicated to a triune god, a concept never spoken about by ANY of their Prophets and Messengers or found in their religious texts.




I am not a Trinitarian Christian. YHWH stands for Yahwah.

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Here is proof that the people in that area knew the God of Abraham as Yahwah.

THE MOABITE STONE


King Mesha, 930 BC.

Moabite Stone

I am Mesha, son of Kemosh melek, the king of Moab, the Dibonite. My father was king over Moab for thirty years, and I became king after my father.


And I made this high place for Kemosh in Qarhar . . . because of the deliverance of Mesha, and because he has saved me from all the kings and because he caused me to see [my desire] upon all who hated me. Omri, king of Israel -- he oppressed Moab many days, because Chemosh was angry with his land.


And his son succeeded him, and he also said I will oppress Moab. In my day he spoke according to this word, but I saw my desire upon him and upon his house, and Israel utterly perished forever.


Now Omri had possessed all the land of Medeba and dwelt in it his days and half the days of his son, forty years, but Chemosh restored it in my day. And I built Baal-meon and I made in it the reservoir and I built Kiryathaim. And the men of Gad had dwelt in the land of Ataroth from of old and the king of Israel had built for himself Ataroth. And I foutht against the city and took it, and I slew all the people of the city, a sight pleasing to Chemosh and to Moab.


And I brought back from there the altar-hearth of Duda and I dragged it before Chemosh in Kiryoth. And I caused to dwell in it the men of Sharon and the men of Meharoth (?).


And Chemosh said to me: "Go take Nebo against Israel"; and I went by night and fought against it from break of dawn till noon, and I took it and slew all, seven thousand men and boys, women and girls, and I devoted it to Ashtar-Chemosh.


And I took from there the altar-hearths of Yahwah, and I dragged them before Chemosh. And the king of Israel built Jabaz and dwelt in it while he fought with me and Chemosh drove him out from before me. And I took from Moab two hundred men, all its chiefs, and I led them against Jahaz and took it to add unto Dibon.


And I built Qarhar, the wall of the forests and the wall of the hill; and I built its gates and I built its towers, and I built the kings house, and I made the sluices for the reservoir of water in the midst of the city.


And there was no cistern in the midst of the city, in Qarhar; and I said to all the people: "Make you each a cistern in his house;" and I cut the cuttings for Qarhar with the help of the prisoners of Israel. I built Aroer and I made the highway by the Arnon. And I built Beth-bamoth, for it had been destroyed. And I built Bezer, for it was in ruins....(Chi) of Dibon wer fifty, for all Dibon was obedient. And I ruled. And I ruled a hundred....in the cities which I had added to the land. And I built [Mede]ba dnd Beth-diblathan. And [as for] Beth-baal-meon, there I placed sheep-raisers....sheep of the land... And [as for] Horonaim there dwelt in it....and.....Chemosh said unto me: "Go down, fight against Horonaim," and I went down and....Chemosh in my day, and from there.....and I.......
 
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I am not a Trinitarian Christian. YHWH stands for Yahwah.
Yod He Wav He, the tetragramaton, no one on Earth knows where the vowel placements go and thus no one knows how to decipher the unspoken name of GOD. Yahweh is a considered a good guess. Muslim Scholars have shown YHWH can also be deciphered as ALLAH swt, but again all guesswork. Let's for the sake of argument agree that Yahweh is the God worshipped by the Israelites.

From information you provided..

The Moabite stone 930B.C mentions the Moabites invoked their god, Chemosh who granted them victory over the Israelites and Yahweh, they offered the slaughtered women and girls to the goddess Ashtar, linked to the god Chemosh.

Could you tell me about Yahweh, origins etc? I ask because we know that following revelation received directly from GOD, (He spoke to all of those assembled) they eventually turned away from Monotheism in favour of Polytheism.

The plurality of deities was such that in an inscription by Sargon II, who completed the conquest of the kingdom of Israel in the late 8th century BCE, the Assyrian king mentioned that after capturing the capital Samaria, his troops brought back “the (statues of) gods in which (the Israelites) had put their trust.”

In the kingdom of Israel, as Hosea 8 and 1 Kings 12:26-29 relate, Yahweh was often worshipped in the form of a calf, just like the god Baal was. (1 Kings 12:26-29 explains that Jeroboam made two calves, for the sanctuaries at Bethel and Dan, so the people could worship Yhwh there and wouldn’t have to go all the way to Jerusalem. Ergo, in northern Israel at least, the calves were meant to represent Yhwh.)

Jeremiah speaks about the many gods of Judah, which are as numerous as the streets of a town. There was certainly worship a female deity, Asherah or the "Queen of Heaven” Then there was the storm god, Hadad, (Baal).

In Judges 11:24, Jephtah tries to resolve a territorial dispute by telling the Ammonites that the land of Israel had been given to the Israelites by Yhwh, while their lands had been given to them by their god Chemosh ("Will you not take what your god Chemosh gives you? Likewise, whatever Yhwh our god has given us, we will possess.")

So tell me about the origins of Yahweh and give your thoughts on why you think highly respected and learned Jewish Scholars, past and present have said Jews and Muslims, (from 7th Century onwards) worship the same ALLAH swt, it's not like Jews are living in Muslim lands or have any need to appease us.
 
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Yod He Wav He, the tetragramaton, no one on Earth knows where the vowel placements go and thus no one knows how to decipher the unspoken name of GOD. Yahweh is a considered a good guess. Muslim Scholars have shown YHWH can also be deciphered as ALLAH swt, but again all guesswork. Let's for the sake of argument agree that Yahweh is the God worshipped by the Israelites.

From information you provided..

The Moabite stone 930B.C mentions the Moabites invoked their god, Chemosh who granted them victory over the Israelites and Yahweh, they offered the slaughtered women and girls to the goddess Ashtar, linked to the god Chemosh.

Could you tell me about Yahweh, origins etc? I ask because we know that following revelation received directly from GOD, (He spoke to all of those assembled) they eventually turned away from Monotheism in favour of Polytheism.

The plurality of deities was such that in an inscription by Sargon II, who completed the conquest of the kingdom of Israel in the late 8th century BCE, the Assyrian king mentioned that after capturing the capital Samaria, his troops brought back “the (statues of) gods in which (the Israelites) had put their trust.”

In the kingdom of Israel, as Hosea 8 and 1 Kings 12:26-29 relate, Yahweh was often worshipped in the form of a calf, just like the god Baal was. (1 Kings 12:26-29 explains that Jeroboam made two calves, for the sanctuaries at Bethel and Dan, so the people could worship Yhwh there and wouldn’t have to go all the way to Jerusalem. Ergo, in northern Israel at least, the calves were meant to represent Yhwh.)

Jeremiah speaks about the many gods of Judah, which are as numerous as the streets of a town. There was certainly worship a female deity, Asherah or the "Queen of Heaven” Then there was the storm god, Hadad, (Baal).

In Judges 11:24, Jephtah tries to resolve a territorial dispute by telling the Ammonites that the land of Israel had been given to the Israelites by Yhwh, while their lands had been given to them by their god Chemosh ("Will you not take what your god Chemosh gives you? Likewise, whatever Yhwh our god has given us, we will possess.")

So tell me about the origins of Yahweh and give your thoughts on why you think highly respected and learned Jewish Scholars, past and present have said Jews and Muslims, (from 7th Century onwards) worship the same ALLAH swt, it's not like Jews are living in Muslim lands or have any need to appease us.
Concealing the name of God

Concealing the name of God was not only a custom, it was also made a law.

The sages quoted, "This is my name for ever, and this is my memorial unto all generations" (Ex. iii. 15). Here the word "le-'olam" (forever) is written defectively, being without the "waw" for the vowel "o," which renders the reading "le-'allem" (to conceal; Ḳid. 71a).

Forty years prior to the destruction of the Temple, the priests ceased to pronounce the Name (Yoma39b). From that time the pronunciation of the Name was prohibited. "Whoever pronounces the Name forfeits his portion in the future world" (Sanh. xi. 1).

30 AD to 70 AD.
Abba Saul (2d cent.) condemned the profanation of the Tetragrammaton by classing those "that speak the Name according to its letters," with those who have no part in the future world (Sanh. x. 1); and according to 'Ab. Zarah 17b, one of the martyrs of Hadrian's time, Hananiah b. Teradion, was burned at the stake because he so uttered the Name.

The view that prayer is more effectual if the name of God is pronounced in it as it is written caused the scholars of Kairwan to address a question in the eleventh century to Hai Gaon with reference to the pronunciation of the Shem ha-Meforash, to which he answered that it might not be uttered at all outside the Holy Land (Hai Gaon, "Ṭa'am Zeḳenim," p. 55; see Löw, "Gesammelte Schriften," i. 204).

Because Hebrews dropped their 'ayins', to keep from saying God's name, hence we have "y'shua." Also spelled Yeshua, for which we have in Greek, "Iēsous" and "Isus." These are corruptions of the names that begin with "Yah."

Thirteen theophoric names with "Yeho" have corresponding forms where the letters eh have been omitted. There is a theory by Christian Ginsburg that this is due to Hebrew scribes omitting the "h", changing Jeho (יְהוֹ‎) into Jo (יוֹ‎), to make the start of "Yeho-" names not sound like an attempt to pronounce the Divine Name.

Theophoric Names: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theophoric_name





Praise, Exalt, and Proclaim His Name


Exodus 34:5
Then Yahwah came down in the cloud and stood there with him and proclaimed his name, Yahwah.


1 Chronicles 16:8
Give praise to Yahwah, proclaim his name; make known among the nations what he has done.


Psalm 34:3
Glorify Yahwah with me; let us exalt his name together.


Psalm 68:4
Sing to God, sing in praise of his name, extol him who rides on the clouds; rejoice before him—his name is Yahwah.


Psalm 96:2
Sing to Yahwah, praise his name; proclaim his salvation day after day.


Psalm 105:1
Give praise to Yahwah, proclaim his name; make known among the nations what he has done.


Psalm 148:13
Let them praise the name of Yahwah, for his name alone is exalted; his splendor is above the earth and the heavens.


Isaiah 12:4
In that day you will say: “Give praise to Yahwah, proclaim his name; make known among the nations what he has done, and proclaim that his name is exalted.


Isaiah 47:4
Our Redeemer—Yahwah of Host is his name— is the Holy One of Israel.


Isaiah 52:6
Therefore my people will know my name; therefore in that day they will know that it is I who foretold it. Yes, it is I.”


Malachi 2:2
If you do not listen, and if you do not resolve to honor my name,” says Yahwah of Host, “I will send a curse on you, and I will curse your blessings. Yes, I have already cursed them, because you have not resolved to honor me.


Last Days.
Zechariah 13:9
This third I will put into the fire; I will refine them like silver and test them like gold. They will call on my name and I will answer them; I will say, ‘They are my people,’ and they will say, ‘Yahwah is our God.’”




Yahwah reveals His name to Moses
Exodus 3:13-15.

13 And Moses said to Elohiym, “Suppose I go to the siblings of the Israelites and say to them, 'The Elohiym of your forefathers has sent me to you,' and they ask me, 'What is His name?' What shall I say to them?”
14 And Elohiym said to Moses, “The Living that Lives. This is what you are to say to the Israelites: 'The Living has sent me to you.”
15 And Elohiym also said to Moses, “Say to the Israelites, 'Yahwah, the Elohiym of your forefathers; the Elohiym of Abraham, the Elohiym of Isaac and the Elohiym of Jacob has sent me to you.' That’s my name forever, the name by which I’m to be remembered, from generation to generation.”

Yahwah means "Life Began."

Exodus 6:3
I appeared to Abraham, to Isaac and to Jacob as God Almighty
, but by my name Yahwah I did not make myself fully known to them.







Yahwah
A note on the words hawah and hayah.



Quote from pages 217 and 218 of the Brown-Driver-Briggs. Ref # 3068-69 on page 217.
Brown-Driver-Briggs on page 218 states that, "Many recent scholars explain יהוה‎ as Hiph. of הוה equals היה "

הוה hawah / HWH is hawah.
היה hayah / HYH is hayah.


Note that the vowels are all " a."
יהוה Yahwah


The vowels are "a" in the Brown-Driver-Briggs, the NIV Exhaustive Concordance, and the Strong's Exhaustive Concordances.

The name Yahwah is from the Aramaic, not the Hebrew.

The e vowel was introduced by the Masoretes in the 6 century AD.
Jewish scholars of the 6th–10th centuries AD who contributed to the establishment of a recognized text of the Hebrew Bible, and to the compilation of the Masorah.
 
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God

Ancient Hebrew: IL.

Aramaic: IL.

Hebrew: EL.

English: God.

Spanish: Dios.

Italian: Iddio, Iddìo, Dio.

German: Gutes, Gott.

Germanic, Old French: Gott.

French: Dieux, Dieu.

Greek: Theo, Theos.

Latin: Deus.

Norwegian: Gud.

Swedish: Gud.

Portugese: Deus.


There is no person name God because it is a title and not a name.
 
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What you've done is looked at the Torah and everywhere it says has the letters Yod He Wav He you have assumed it means Yahweh, when in fact as I said earlier, no one actually knows how to pronounce the name of God. If what the Scholars of the NIV Bible assume is true, then it would be universally accepted by Jews and Christians, whereas in fact, that is far from the case....

How to pronounce the name YHWH
Judges 13:18
But the angel of YHWH said to him, "Why do you ask my name, seeing it is incomprehensible?

The name YHWH is very old and we may assume that the source texts that later added up to the Torah we now have contained it. And it is equally likely that the Book of the Covenant, which Moses read aloud to the Israelites, contained it too (Exodus 24:7). But at some point in time, people began to believe that the name YHWH was so holy, that normal mortals better not pronounce it. In stead, wherever the text called for YHWH, a reader would pronounce the Hebrew word for lord: Adonai. And so, what started out as a wonderfully pious idea made the pronunciation of God's personal name vanish from human consciousness.

Here at Abarim Publications, we prefer to transliterate God's name directly to the unpronounceable "YHWH," and whenever we're called to read it out loud, we say adonai or lord.

http://www.abarim-publications.com/Meaning/YHWH.html#.W0KDVNVKiDI jfjfj

YHWH
Of the names of God in the Old Testament, that which occurs most frequently (6,823 times) is the so-called Tetragrammaton, Yhwh (
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), the distinctive personal name of the God of Israel. This name is commonly represented in modern translations by the form "Jehovah," which, however, is a philological impossibility (see Jehovah). This form has arisen through attempting to pronounce the consonants of the name with the vowels of Adonai (
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= "Lord"), which the Masorites have inserted in the text, indicating thereby that Adonai was to be read (as a "ḳeri perpetuum") instead of Yhwh. When the name Adonai itself precedes, to avoid repetition of this name, Yhwh is written by the Masorites with the vowels of Elohim, in which case Elohim is read instead of Yhwh.

http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/11305-names-of-god

As we can see the Masoretic Jews believe YHWH = Eloh in Hebrew, which translates as Alaha/Elaha in Aramaic or Allahu in Arabic.

Allah is the contraction of Alilah, and Alilah means "The god ascends." Al / il / ah
According to who?

I noticed you shied away from explaining the history of Yahweh. :scratch:
 
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