That's the standard accusation thrown at any evidence, but so far all I have seen is repeated allegations/assertions, myth and math substituted for science, and an astounding willfull ignorance and intellectual dishonesty toward considering a preponderance of circumstantial evidence in favor of "the smoking gun".As they say on Wiki, "Citation needed." Proof needed too, but all I have seen so far are repeated allegations/assertions, bad physics, selective evidence and bad logic.
I used to have an equally convincing figurine of a Bigfoot riding a Unicorn.People have widely (average people everywhere on Earth) known the Earth is a globe not just for 60 years, since NASA got going, but for centuries.
This one is from just before 1500:
You call it a discussion when your starting point is the other side is lying? That's not very nice fruit.This has nothing to do with Calvary Chapel, and the only deception in scope in this conversation is the lie of the globe.
If you don't want to discuss what I was referencing, don't bother responding. Thanks.
Go to Bit Chute and search for the "Flat Earth Comedy Special".Being a "no-hell" Christian, I know just how you feel. However, I have yet to see convincing flat-earth evidence. Can you at least refer me to a good source?
I've had a small amount of exposure to Calvary Chapel and my experience is the same as yours. As far as I have ever heard they do not believe it.No, you didn't.
As far as I know and am aware, they don't believe what you believe, and you don't believe what they believe.
You call it a discussion when your starting point is the other side is lying? That's not very nice fruit.
No, you didn't.
As far as I know and am aware, they don't believe what you believe, and you don't believe what they believe.
"Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits." Matt 7:15-16Spare me the drama.
No, clearly.Yes, I did.
I did not see any post where it was revealed why someone chose to believe the flat earth theory, instead of believing what their own declared church believes ...."Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits." Matt 7:15-16
Jesus was so dramatic wasn't he?
"Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits." Matt 7:15-16
Jesus was so dramatic wasn't he?
No, nothing that extreme... but the principle stands. When two people can look at the same scripture and come to extremely differing conclusions, how do you discern what is right? You look at the fruit. Flat Earth fruit is not good.I did not see any post where it was revealed why someone chose to believe the flat earth theory, instead of believing what their own declared church believes ....
did you (or anyone) happen to see/ read it ?
No, clearly.
Also, Calvary Chapel, and no other 'Chapel' or Church that has been mentioned, agrees with your views, as far as posted so far.
The errors you learned might have been because of some comfort or support provided by those teaching the errors,
or because of great injustice done to you by those who you once trusted, those who know and believe in the globe earth,
but no matter what the source, you have not revealed it yet.
I do know what I am talking about. Ironically I am preparing a message on this very scripture right now. I may use you as an example, drama and all.You aren't Jesus and you don't know what you are talking about. Again, spare me the drama.
No, that is not how. (as evident in this and most other threads).No, nothing that extreme... but the principle stands. When two people can look at the same scripture and come to extremely differing conclusions, how do you discern what is right? You look at the fruit. Flat Earth fruit is not good.
Sorry? If so, you would have provided the quote. Looking through your own posts, you never did.Sorry, I did.
Now we are done conversing. Good bye.
It's not one or the other it's both. What you outlined INFORMS and empowers what I outlined.No, that is not how. (as evident in this and most other threads).
To know what is right and true, for instance how did Simon barjona KNOW that Jesus IS the Christ, the Messiah, the son of the (one and only true ) Living Creator (as written - NOT as men think)...
Jesus said clearly HOW Simon barjona KNEW, and it was NOT by observing anything, nor by study....
Or, it is also true that the teachings(the fruit) of flat earth is not true , And THAT BY going back to Scripture like the Bereans, this can be seen IF the Creator Grants this... yes....
Nope, zero biblical evidence for flat earth OR sphere earth. You're forcing something to be there that is not there and stealing glory from God.
Go back to your idol.
That's the kind of thing an idol worshiper might say.Every part of my post from or about the Bible has been stated exactly as the Bible states Gods creation.
God states in the Bible He created two great lights, God stated in the Bible He created a raqia that separates waters, God states in Genesis that He placed the sun, moon and stars in the raqia. God states that the birds fly across the face raqia (sky) the same place the sun, moon and stars are located.
You are just an empty sounding accuser who believes the lies of science over the truth of the Bible about Gods creation.
Have you also made room for the evolution lie if not why not, evolution and a globe earth work together in satans lies.
That's the kind of thing an idol worshiper might say.
It's not there. You are making it say what you want it to say... which is exactly what satan did with scripture in scripture. Interesting.
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