Who believes in entire sanctification?

[JaapAap]

Gideons of cf and Charles Fitch preached it. I believe in the end the church will be without spot or wrinkle.

http://www.temcat.com/011-Prayer-Prom/Pr-Prom-Library/Christian-Experience-Charles-Fitch.pdf

 

[JaapAap]

HatGuy ... thanks for posting that chart ... great way to visualize different teaching.

I guess I'm most tuned into the Reformed view on this topic. The Wesleyan view I interpret the verse they refer to about a 2nd experience as better understood as in a Pentecostal way.

Maid Marie .. yes, that was my understanding of his teaching, an eradication of the sinful nature. Which clearly didn't match his testimony! Or any one else I know including myself.

If the sinful nature wasn't eradicated Jesus couldn't have been tempted the same way as us.
Gideons preaches it in Spirit filled/ charismatic. He was a porn addict for 38 years and wanted to just quit and then He met God who said he died with Christ and He believed it and was set free at once.

 

[HatGuy]

To show Wesleyan view or American Holiness view?

To show the Wesleyan view / your view.

 

[Wgw]

The Orthodox Church believes in Theosis, which Wesley attemoted to explain using the concept of entire sanctification. Essentially we bwlieve God became man so as to take our fallen humanity into his divinity and purify it, allowing us to become by grace what He is by nature; sons of God by adoption.

 

[Maid Marie]

To show the Wesleyan view / your view.

I would rename the Wesleyan pov as The American Holiness POV. Then for the Wesleyan POV I would take the reformed view but start that little slope before regeneration. It would be a smallish slope until consecration/purification & filling of the Holy Spirit, at which point the slope would become higher and steeper.

 

[Maid Marie]

If the sinful nature wasn't eradicated Jesus couldn't have been tempted the same way as us.
Gideons preaches it in Spirit filled/ charismatic. He was a porn addict for 38 years and wanted to just quit and then He met God who said he died with Christ and He believed it and was set free at once.

The problem with the concept of "eradication" of the sin nature is that it makes it sound like it is a "thing" that once gone doesn't come back. God promises to purify us from unrighteousness in 1 John 1:9 but that is a different picture than eradication of a "thing".

 

[JaapAap]

The problem with the concept of "eradication" of the sin nature is that it makes it sound like it is a "thing" that once gone doesn't come back. God promises to purify us from unrighteousness in 1 John 1:9 but that is a different picture than eradication of a "thing".

Paul says he died without Christ, that was instant that the old man was also crucified. Yet he said he was pressing towards that goal and that he wasn 't there yet. Without believing that it happened al the cross, once for all, you can never get there. It 's like confessing and believing that you are healed by His stripes when everyone can see the symptoms of a sickness, but it does work.

 

[Nemo Neem]

Adam Clarke, a British Methodist theologian, wrote a treatise on "entire sanctification." It's a small book, and can be found on Amazon. This treatise lays out the doctrine clearly.

In Entire Sanctification, Adam Clarke explains that what God has done for us through incarnation, crucifixion, and resurrection is with a view to what He intends to do in restoring us to the state of holiness from which we fell, and creating us anew in Christ Jesus. God's design is to restore mankind to His image, to a state of perfection in that love which loves the Lord our God with all our heart and our neighbor as ourselves. This is the holiness God desires for us all and the goal for which Christ died.

http://www.ccel.org/ccel/clarke/entire_sanct.ii.html
http://www.ccel.org/ccel/clarke/entire_sanct.html
http://www.biblical-theology.net/biblical_basis_for Entire Sanctification.htm