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That seems like it's been Buchanan's thing for far longer than just his most recent comments. Probably he'll die on this particular hill, whether or not it has any basis in reality.

That said, while I think Buchanan's racial politics are deplorable and confusing (surely the measure of a free society is not the color or ethnic background of its people, but its ethics and the value it places on the freedoms it has cultivated? To put it another way: am I danger because my grandmother came to this country in the 1930s from Mexico, ~50 years before I was born? And if I am not, then why would the children of immigrants today necessarily be? Because they're not white like Pat Buchannan? What does whiteness have to do with values?), I also think it's fairly easy to see a glaring difference between immigration to the United States and to Europe, even though it's not particularly 'PC' to talk about that, either: In the United States, we are surrounded by majority Christian countries to our south and a majority "guys named Doug" country to our north, and so the majority of our immigrants tend to share at least something of a common base in that sense. On the other hand, most of the immigration into Europe as of late has been from former colonies with majority Islamic cultures, such as North Africans in France, Pakistanis and Iraqis in Britain, and of course the ill-considered 'guest worker' program in Germany which has led to a considerable Turkish minority in that country over the last few decades.

So I don't think you can easily simply transpose one situation onto another and say that because XYZ may be going on in Europe, then that is comparable to what is happening in the USA or could happen in the USA. Even if we had open borders (which we don't, despite the Republican talking point on this issue), most of the people who come here do not have quite the conceptual and mental leap to make in coming from, say, northern Mexico to Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, or California as the average Somali would have in going to Sweden, or the average Afghan to Germany, or whatever.

But even that has nothing to do with skin color or ethnicity, necessarily. I've known several Afghans and Somalis in my life, and they were kind, appreciative of their adopted homeland, and very pragmatic (if I had to guess, being forced to flee your home country at a young age to escape Islamic extremism can have that effect on people). Mixed in with those people, though, are those of the same backgrounds who would go on to threaten to bomb the Mall of America and secretly go back to Somalia to fight with Al Shabaab and other similar craziness. So ideally, in terms of positions to be taken on immigration/borders/etc., there should be somewhere between being a racist jerk and being a '100% open borders for everyone; caring about who you let into your country is racist'-type liberal do-gooder at other peoples' expense, and most people should be able to occupy that middle ground without having to sacrifice either their hearts or their brains.

Pat Buchanan, unfortunately, is not most people.
 
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When it comes to human populations, I believe it's never that simple.

I work with a guy who believes all people will be so intermingled, everybody will be brown. They way he talks about it is odd. It strikes me as fetish-like. So someone asked him why is it that some Americans have traced their ancestry and found out they're related. When they meet they find out one of them is white and the other is black. It doesn't phase him in his thinking, it's like an insect heading towards a bright light.
 
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I say passed down the values that made America great, instead of gripping towards a demographic that is fading away. It's a scary change, but I do think we should get used to it gracefully and understand our new neighbors coming in.
 
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“This is the great issue of our time. And, the real question is whether Europe has the will and the capacity, and America has the capacity to halt the invasion of the countries until they change the character — political, social, racial, ethnic — character of the country entirely.”

Sounds possibly tribal and nationalistic. White extinction anxiety is a bit of a stretch.
 
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This fear of 'too many brown people' (or as politicians and the media always put it, "demographic change") is totally irrational. Hawaii is already 3/4ths non-white, and it's doing pretty well. Probably the #1 state where most white Americans would want to live.
 
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We all have fears of one kind or another. What matters is how we deal with them. I don't care one bit what colour a person skin is. All that matters to me is he prepared not to make race an issue.

probably when race stops being an issue.
 
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I say passed down the values that made America great, instead of gripping towards a demographic that is fading away. It's a scary change, but I do think we should get used to it gracefully and understand our new neighbors coming in.

Our economy is struggling...barely treading water. The gap between rich and poor just grows greater...and the amount of debt that each individual holds, and we hold as a nation, grows larger.

Given those facts, maybe our new neighbors should stay in their own nations until we can fix some of the problems in ours.
 
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Our economy is struggling...barely treading water.

Holy hyperbole, Batman! Who poured the doom and gloom in your coffee this morning?

The gap between rich and poor just grows greater...and the amount of debt that each individual holds, and we hold as a nation, grows larger.

Yep... and do you think more Whites are going to fix that?

Given those facts, maybe our new neighbors should stay in their own nations until we can fix some of the problems in ours.

Clearly you haven't seen the problems in their nations... But I suppose building a wall and cowering behind it will solve our economic problems -- Great Leader says so.
 
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