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Which is more damaging?
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Quite correct. It is possible to be both. But that is not the heart of the OP. The heart of the OP lies in the simple question: which is more?
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Actually, it was simply feeding the hungry, clothing the naked, caring for the sick, and visiting the jailed.
You can argue a lawyer's point, that that is what you thought Jesus was saying specifically, but even I don't buy it.
Jesus wasn't really a door, even though he said, "behold, I am the Door." He wasn't really a Vine, although he said he was. There isn't a literal door on your heart, and he doesn't literally knock on it. You have to forgive more that 490 times (70x7), but good luck standing in front of the world using literalism to defend yourself on Judgement before everyone.
I'm embarrassed for you now.
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Which earns more points with God? Seriously????
It's like asking: which makes a person better - feeding your children, or your their children?
To choose, or even offer a choice, suggests you are a terrible parent.
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Whoa, harsh. Where did that come from?
But to address your point, I'm not sure I agree with you. When Jesus is speaking figuratively, he generally sticks to everyday things: figs, mustard seeds, other seeds, doors, rocks, judges, snakes, etc. The Last Judgment, though, is a foretold, almost mythical event. When describing an event like that, I think you'd want to steer clear of other metaphors, lest they become entangled and it become completely unclear which elements are literal and which are metaphor. For example, is he also not literal when talking about separating the wicked from the just?
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what came to mind for me as a definition of charity is forgiveness.
as in it is charitable to forgive.
as in charity is not goverment largess.
so my answer is charity.
as in it is charitable to forgive.
as in charity is not goverment largess.
so my answer is charity.
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If you disagree with the premise of the question, you can always abstain from the conversation.
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An interesting take on the OP. Why do you conclude that that is what is suggested?
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What did they aim for when they missed your heart?
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Charity can be used in many ways....good to feed the hungry, clothe the homeless etc etc. It can also be said that it is not charitable to promote a promicuous lifestyle. So there, you can answer "both" by using only one.
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My good sir, It all depends on your own view of promiscuity! Some see it as a horrid sin and others find it to be a normal part of society. And to each their own.
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Maybe, but neither prevents a man from performing acts of charity. Or are you being flippant? It's ok if you are, I'd just like to know.My good sir, It all depends on your own view of promiscuity! Some see it as a horrid sin and others find it to be a normal part of society. And to each their own.
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Moreso being flippant. I really don't care what people do as it isn't my business and unlike others of my faith, i've no desire to preach condemnations. Though I am harder on the fundies and religious conservatives. So some might say I am being condemning.
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I'm pretty sure Jesus did most of his yelling at religious conservatives, so it's probably fine.
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