Which Day of the Week is the Sabbath?

[oldsage]

Oldsage, was the Passover lamb to be killed on the first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread?

2 Chronicles 35:1 Josiah kept a Passover to the LORD in Jerusalem. And they slaughtered the Passover lamb on the fourteenth day of the first month.

Feast of Unleaven bread starts the next day, these feast are intertwined.

 

[ra123]

Isa 1:13 Bring no more vain oblations; incense is an abomination unto me; the new moons and sabbaths, the calling of assemblies, I cannot away with;
iniquity, even the solemn meeting.

Isa 1:14 Your new moons and your appointed feasts my soul hateth: they are a trouble unto me; I am weary to bear.
Isa 1:15 And when ye spread forth your hands, I will hide mine eyes from you: yea, when ye make many prayers, I will not hear: your hands are full of
blood.

Isa 1:16 Wash you, make you clean; put away the evil of your doings from before mine eyes; cease to do evil;

Isa 1:17 Learn to do well; seek judgment, relieve the oppressed, judge the fatherless, plead for the widow.

Isa 1:21 How is the faithful city become an harlot! it was full of judgment; righteousness lodged in it; but now murderers.

Jhn 8:42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he
sent me.

Jhn 8:43 Why do ye not understand my speech? because ye cannot hear my word.

Hbr 6:6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put to an open shame.

Isa 1:24 Therefore saith the Lord, the LORD of hosts, the mighty One of Israel, Ah, I will ease me of mine adversaries, and avenge me of mine enemies:
Isa 1:25 And I will turn my hand upon thee, and purely purge away thy dross, and take away all thy tin:

2Pe 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

Act 28:28 Be it known therefore unto you, that the salvation of God is sent unto the Gentiles, and they will hear it.

Rom 10:20 But Esaias is very bold, and saith, I was found of them that sought me not; I was made manifest unto them that asked not after me.

Rom 10:21 But to Israel he saith, All day long I have stretched forth my hands unto a disobedient and gainsaying people.

Hbr 12:28 Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear:

Hbr 12:29 For our God a consuming fire.
Rev 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

Rev 21:2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

Rev 21:3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, their God.

Rev 21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

Rev 21:5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.

Rev 21:6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.

Rev 21:7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.

Rev 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

 

[tall73]

Exodus 35:1-3 NET
(1) And Moses assembled all the community of the Israelites and said to them, "These are the words that the Lord has commanded you to do.
(2) In six days work may be done, but on the seventh day there must be a holy day for you, a Sabbath of complete rest to the Lord. Anyone who does work on it will be put to death.
(3) You must not kindle a fire in all your homes on the Sabbath day.


Exodus 16:28-30 NET
(28) So the Lord said to Moses, "How long do you refuse to obey my commandments and my instructions?
(29) See, because the Lord has given you the Sabbath, that is why he is giving you food for two days on the sixth day. So each of you stay where he is; let no one go out of his place on the seventh day."
(30) So the people rested on the seventh day.

These are certainly fair questions.

Notice the context in the passage about going out:

EX 16:27 Nevertheless, some of the people went out on the seventh day to gather it, but they found none. 28 Then the LORD said to Moses, "How long will you refuse to keep my commands and my instructions? 29 Bear in mind that the LORD has given you the Sabbath; that is why on the sixth day he gives you bread for two days. Everyone is to stay where he is on the seventh day; no one is to go out." 30 So the people rested on the seventh day.

They had been told not to gather food on that day, but continued to do so against the commandment. So in this case the going out is directly related to the details of the story.

While Jesus undoubtedly made reforms to their notions of the Sabbath he saw no problem with going to the synogogue, reading from the scrolls etc. So I likewise feel comfortable doing so.

The fire one is a bit more problematic for several reasons.

a. we have no direct clarification on this from Jesus.

b. We have no mitigating context that would weaken the command, so we assume it is simply as it reads. Now of course, that is not problematic unless we are not following it!

c. There is a biblical story that SOME would say sheds some light on the subject:

NU 15:32 While the Israelites were in the desert, a man was found gathering wood on the Sabbath day. 33 Those who found him gathering wood brought him to Moses and Aaron and the whole assembly, 34 and they kept him in custody, because it was not clear what should be done to him. 35 Then the LORD said to Moses, "The man must die. The whole assembly must stone him outside the camp." 36 So the assembly took him outside the camp and stoned him to death, as the LORD commanded Moses.

some say that to light the fire you have to do work as this man was doing. In fact I just now saw that debi mentioned this aspect, so am editing a bit, that kindle encompassed more than just lighting.

The bigger point may simply be that turning on a light is a lot easier than lighting a fire, keeping it going etc. God was stressing the not working part because they had trouble following through on this. But if someone was convinced they shouldn't flip a light switch during the Sabbath, I guess I would have no problem with them acting on that conviction.

 

[oldsage]

Remember Gods word tall.

Adam and Eve fell from grace and became subject unto the law of God, having a saturday sabbath, which can never save. Before that they were with God himself, they needed no sabbath.

Then why did God bless it and make it Holy?

 

[PaleHorse]

Isa 1:13 Bring no more vain oblations; incense is an abomination unto me; the new moons and sabbaths, the calling of assemblies, I cannot away with;
iniquity, even the solemn meeting.

Isa 1:14 Your new moons and your appointed feasts my soul hateth: they are a trouble unto me; I am weary to bear.
Isa 1:15 And when ye spread forth your hands, I will hide mine eyes from you: yea, when ye make many prayers, I will not hear: your hands are full of
blood.

Isa 1:16 Wash you, make you clean; put away the evil of your doings from before mine eyes; cease to do evil;

Isa 1:17 Learn to do well; seek judgment, relieve the oppressed, judge the fatherless, plead for the widow.

Isa 1:21 How is the faithful city become an harlot! it was full of judgment; righteousness lodged in it; but now murderers.

Jhn 8:42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he
sent me.

Jhn 8:43 Why do ye not understand my speech? because ye cannot hear my word.

Hbr 6:6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put to an open shame.

Isa 1:24 Therefore saith the Lord, the LORD of hosts, the mighty One of Israel, Ah, I will ease me of mine adversaries, and avenge me of mine enemies:
Isa 1:25 And I will turn my hand upon thee, and purely purge away thy dross, and take away all thy tin:

2Pe 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

Act 28:28 Be it known therefore unto you, that the salvation of God is sent unto the Gentiles, and they will hear it.

Rom 10:20 But Esaias is very bold, and saith, I was found of them that sought me not; I was made manifest unto them that asked not after me.

Rom 10:21 But to Israel he saith, All day long I have stretched forth my hands unto a disobedient and gainsaying people.

Hbr 12:28 Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear:

Hbr 12:29 For our God a consuming fire.
Rev 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

Rev 21:2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

Rev 21:3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, their God.

Rev 21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

Rev 21:5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.

Rev 21:6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.

Rev 21:7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.

Rev 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Yes, I've read those verses before too. Still you are making a major mistake because you still do not see that the word "sabbath" was not only used to denote the seventh-day Sabbath of the Commandment - it was also used for the various feasts outlined in Lev 23. So, to be blunt, you don't know which 'sabbath' you are trying to talk about in using the above verses that actually kind of apply.

 

[PaleHorse]

These are certainly fair questions.

Notice the context in the passage about going out:


They had been told not to gather food on that day, but continued to do so against the commandment. So in this case the going out is directly related to the details of the story.

While Jesus undoubtedly made reforms to their notions of the Sabbath he saw no problem with going to the synogogue, reading from the scrolls etc. So I likewise feel comfortable doing so.

The fire one is a bit more problematic for several reasons.

a. we have no direct clarification on this from Jesus.

b. We have no mitigating context that would weaken the command, so we assume it is simply as it reads. Now of course, that is not problematic unless we are not following it!

c. There is a biblical story that SOME would say sheds some light on the subject:



some say that to light the fire you have to do work as this man was doing. They point out the fact that you should simply do all the work in advance to keep from doing it on Sabbath. Not a bad principle.

d. The bigger point may simply be that turning on a light is a lot easier than lighting a fire, keeping it going etc. God was stressing the not working part because they had trouble following through on this. But if someone was convinced they shouldn't flip a light switch during the Sabbath, I guess I would have no problem with them acting on that conviction.

I agree and well said.

 

[tall73]

So therefore where it says "abide ye every man in his place" the meaning because of the of the context of the wording here makes the difference in how it is meant in this passage...The problem is that you did not have the proper definitions to take apart this Scritpure to read it in it's proper context .... You have to know what the words meant period in order to properly translate them and therfore make a true argument as to their meaning ....

H8478
תּחת
tachath
BDB Definition:
1) the under part, beneath, instead of, as, for, for the sake of, flat, unto, where, whereas
1a) the under part (noun masculine)
1b) beneath (adverbial accusative)
1c) under, beneath (preposition)
1c1) at the foot of (idiom)
1c2) sweetness, subjection, woman, being burdened or oppressed (figuratively)
1c3) of subjection or conquest
1d) what is under one, the place in which one stands (noun masculine)
1d1) in one’s place, the place in which one stands (idiom with reflexive pronoun)
1d2) in place of, instead of (in transferred sense)
1d3) in place of, in exchange or return for (of things mutually interchanged)
1e) instead of, instead of that (conjunction)
1f) in return for that, because that (conjunction)
1g) in, under, into the place of (after verbs of motion) (in compounds)
1h) from under, from beneath, from under the hand of, from his place, under, beneath
Part of Speech: see above in Definition
A Related Word by BDB/Strong’s Number: from the same as H8430
Same Word by TWOT Number: 2504

Then when we go to next phrase in the same sentence because of it's context in the sentence itself....."let no man go out of his place"

then the meaning changes

H4480
מנּי / מנּי / מן
min / minnîy / minnêy
BDB Definition:
1) from, out of, on account of, off, on the side of, since, above, than, so that not, more than (preposition)
1a) from (expressing separation), off, on the side of
1b) out of
1b1) (with verbs of proceeding, removing, expelling)
1b2) (of material from which something is made)
1b3) (of source or origin)
1c) out of, some of, from (partitively)
1d) from, since, after (of time)
1e) than, more than (in comparison)
1f) from...even to, both...and, either...or
1g) than, more than, too much for (in comparisons)
1h) from, on account of, through, because (with infinitive)
2) that (conjunction)
Part of Speech: see above in Definition
A Related Word by BDB/Strong’s Number: from H4482
Same Word by TWOT Number: 1212, 1213e

I am struggling to see what you mean with this one. Obviously the words for in and out would be different, but the point is the same. They were not to go gather bread when told not to. The going out was in relation to picking up the bread.

And as you mentioned Jesus as a means for testing practice, He had no problem with going out of His place on the Sabbath and worshipping.

 

[Debi1967]

We live under GRACE,if we belong to GOD.This law is not for us ,nor was it ever.

1Jo 3:23 And this is his commandment: That we should believe in the name of his Son Jesus Christ and love one another, as he hath given commandment unto us.
1Jo 3:24 And he that keepeth his commandments abideth in him, and he in him. And in this we know that he abideth in us by the Spirit which he hath given us.

I am sorry I have to differ in your opinion because we do live under His Commandments....

1Jo 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
1Jo 3:5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.
1Jo 3:6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.

First I would like to know if you have read this whole chapter in the Bible and secondly I would like to know are you without sin? We are Saved by Grace and given that freely BECAUSE WE ALL fall short of the Glory of God ..... To have no sin means that one is perfected and unless you can tell me that you are then you are like any other Christian that falls short of His Glory .....

Eph 2:8 For by grace you are saved through faith: and that not of yourselves, for it is the gift of God.

Eph 2:9 Not of works, that no man may glory.

Eph 2:10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus in good works, which God hath prepared that we should walk in them.

Eph 2:11 For which cause be mindful that you, being heretofore gentiles is the flesh, who are called uncircumcision by that which is called circumcision in the flesh, made by hands:

Eph 2:12 That you were at that time without Christ, being aliens from the conversation of Israel and strangers to the testament, having no hope of the promise and without God in this world.

Eph 2:13 But now in Christ Jesus, you, who some time were afar off, are made nigh by the blood of Christ.

Eph 2:14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and breaking down the middle wall of partition, the enmities in his flesh:

Eph 2:15 Making void the law of commandments contained in decrees: that he might make the two in himself into one new man, making peace

Eph 2:16 And might reconcile both to God in one body by the cross, killing the enmities in himself.

Eph 2:17 And coming, he preached peace to you that were afar off: and peace to them that were nigh.

Eph 2:18 For by him we have access both in one Spirit to the Father.

Secondly Yes I know full well what this Scripture says but it does not take away the validatity of the Commandments that Christ re-itterated .... He came to fulfill Law not take it away and that too was stated by Christ.

This wasn't a revocation of the Commandments that govern our Worship of the Lord and that govern our Love to one another.... This is the problem, we are told to center our devotion on the Father through the Son.... We pray to Father and Worship the Father always, using but One mediator to do this and that is the Son, Christ .... But Christ is our Lord God too and therefore in recognizing the Lord's Day and centering all of our Worship on that day we then are honoring them both and the Comforter ..... We are worshiping the Trinity as the Whole at that point .....

We thank that Father for the Son, we thank the Son for His Sacrifice and then for giving us the assurance of Hope because He is the Risen Lord... and through thsi all we ask the Holy Spirit to be with us an continue to be the Comforter that was left in His stead.... We Worship this EVERY Sunday as a new celebration in the Trinity .... Every Sunday is Easter and then once a year we celebrate in FEAST.... This and Passover and the Ascencion are all very important infact the most important things we do in the Church ....

 

[tall73]

As to the law never being for us (meaning gentiles I assume) that is not quite true. What is true is that we do not see explicit commands as in the ten commandments before Sinai (though there are some hints of them in saying that Abraham kept God's statutes, etc. )


But we do see that Cain knew it was wrong to kill his brother. We do see God blessing the 7th day. We do see that stealing was wrong from Jacob's story, etc. Even the pagans knew that adultery was wrong when Abraham said that his wife was his sister.

The point is that in the beginning they did not need the external law, as you said , they had God himself. But they did have an understanding of His requirements.

As men fell further they needed very clear commands. But the goal now is not to get rid of those commands, but to go back to living out the commands from an internal orientation of love of God and love of our brothers, as Christ lives in us through His Spirit.

 

[Debi1967]

I am struggling to see what you mean with this one. Obviously the words for in and out would be different, but the point is the same. They were not to go gather bread when told not to. The going out was in relation to picking up the bread.

And as you mentioned Jesus as a means for testing practice, He had no problem with going out of His place on the Sabbath and worshipping.

No literally they were not allowed to leave their homes period ..... it meant more than just working and going into the fields it meant the actual leaving of their homes period ...

abide ye under your home or roof (first definition)

then

let no man go from/out of his place (second definition)

It was being quite literal not to leave the home period .... that was the point .... it was very strict in content and they say that God was not a legalist .... I guess then He is when it comes to this kind of stuff huh? It was specific there was no room ....

 

[Debi1967]

Then why did God bless it and make it Holy?

Yes but he blessed it and made it Holy before he even created Adam no less Eve and it was not instituted in use anywhere in the Bible until Moses .... Show me where God instituted it's use before then .... And do remember that if you say that just because of that Scripture and then because it was in Genesis ... this would be a conclusionary argument which would make it Tradition ....

 

[Rut]

If the seventh day Sabbath were a shadow of things to come, what was not stealing a shadow of? The Sabbath will be honored on the new earth, it is not a shadow of anything.

The Sabbath commandment was not nailed to the cross. Mary, Christ's mother, kept it after He was nailed to the cross, so did Paul....etc.

Do we honestly believe that God would lift up the mercy seat in heaven, take out the tablets of stone written with His Own Finger, and chisel out just ONE of His commandments? That totally goes against the character of God.

God entered a Sabbath rest on the seventh day of creation. Was He putting HIMSELF in bondage? No way. The Sabbath commandment is not against us, it is a blessing TO us. God shares this blessing with anyone that loves Him and considers themselves HIS.

Hebrews 4 tells us there remains (remain means to "continue unchanged") a Sabbath rest for the people of God. Do we consider ourselves the people of God? I sure hope so!

I agree that we shall have Sabbath in the future but shall it be as we know it.

When I saw you wrote this
"Do we honestly believe that God would lift up the mercy seat in heaven, take out the tablets of stone written with His Own Finger, and chisel out just ONE of His commandments?"

What I understand you don`t belive in what jesus done for us.I have read that the ten commandments shall we not follow anymore




Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;

 

[tall73]

No literally they were not allowed to leave their homes period ..... it meant more than just working and going into the fields it meant the actual leaving of their homes period ...

abide ye under your home or roof (first definition)

then

let no man go from/out of his place (second definition)

It was being quite literal not to leave the home period .... that was the point .... it was very strict in content and they say that God was not a legalist .... I guess then He is when it comes to this kind of stuff huh? It was specific there was no room ....

Yes, quite clearly, unless of course you read the rest of the passage. And as I said, are you saying Jesus violated the command? I don't think so.

Moreover, there were additional sacrifices, besides the daily ones, in the temple. Were they to stay in their house? It doesn't seem possible. Of course you could say they were safe being the priest under Jesus' permission slip, being priests and all.

EV 23:3 " `There are six days when you may work, but the seventh day is a Sabbath of rest, a day of sacred assembly. You are not to do any work; wherever you live, it is a Sabbath to the LORD.

here it is called a day of sacred assembly, not seclusion.

It doesn't sound as though they were in their homes. In fact Jeremiah clarifiies by saying:

JER 17:19 This is what the LORD said to me: "Go and stand at the gate of the people, through which the kings of Judah go in and out; stand also at all the other gates of Jerusalem. 20 Say to them, `Hear the word of the LORD, O kings of Judah and all people of Judah and everyone living in Jerusalem who come through these gates. 21 This is what the LORD says: Be careful not to carry a load on the Sabbath day or bring it through the gates of Jerusalem. 22 Do not bring a load out of your houses or do any work on the Sabbath, but keep the Sabbath day holy, as I commanded your forefathers. 23 Yet they did not listen or pay attention; they were stiff-necked and would not listen or respond to discipline. 24 But if you are careful to obey me, declares the LORD, and bring no load through the gates of this city on the Sabbath, but keep the Sabbath day holy by not doing any work on it, 25 then kings who sit on David's throne will come through the gates of this city with their officials. They and their officials will come riding in chariots and on horses, accompanied by the men of Judah and those living in Jerusalem, and this city will be inhabited forever.

The problem was the work, the load, etc. Notice he refers to the commandment made to their forefathers. Was it to not leave the house? No, it was to not carry a load or do work, which was what they were leaving the house to do.

Even the Pharisees, legalistic as they were, did not prevent going to worship. Surely they, if any, would have leaped on that if it were understood such.

The point is that individual words apart from their context do not say anything. Just as we said in the case of the "first day of the week" argument, the whole context determines it, not just the individual definitions. You will notice in the case of the first day of the week issue that I referred to biblical usage, not definitions from a Greek scholar. Why? Because biblical usage is what is the question, not what a Greek scholar or Hebrew scholar says.

 

[tall73]

Yes but he blessed it and made it Holy before he even created Adam no less Eve and it was not instituted in use anywhere in the Bible until Moses .... Show me where God instituted it's use before then .... And do remember that if you say that just because of that Scripture and then because it was in Genesis ... this would be a conclusionary argument which would make it Tradition ....

A. show me where the command not to murder was given. But Cain knew it was wrong.

B. Man was created day six. God rested day seven. So it was made holy after.

 

[Rut]

If the seventh day Sabbath were a shadow of things to come, what was not stealing a shadow of? The Sabbath will be honored on the new earth, it is not a shadow of anything.

The Sabbath commandment was not nailed to the cross. Mary, Christ's mother, kept it after He was nailed to the cross, so did Paul....etc.

Do we honestly believe that God would lift up the mercy seat in heaven, take out the tablets of stone written with His Own Finger, and chisel out just ONE of His commandments? That totally goes against the character of God.

God entered a Sabbath rest on the seventh day of creation. Was He putting HIMSELF in bondage? No way. The Sabbath commandment is not against us, it is a blessing TO us. God shares this blessing with anyone that loves Him and considers themselves HIS.

Hebrews 4 tells us there remains (remain means to "continue unchanged") a Sabbath rest for the people of God. Do we consider ourselves the people of God? I sure hope so!

I agree that we shall celebrate the sabbath in the future but shall we do it as we know it?

I was little suprised when I read this:

"Do we honestly believe that God would lift up the mercy seat in heaven, take out the tablets of stone written with His Own Finger, and chisel out just ONE of His commandments?"

What I understand what you say here are that you don`t belive in what Jesus did for us (sacrificed) Why I say that is because of Ephesians 2:15
her it say for me that Jesus took away the commandments.What said jesus self about the commandments? Matthew 5:21 - 22 and 27 - 32. For me here jesus go much longer then the ten commandments was.can you see the same.
Have I understand you correct about this?

 

[ra123]

Exd 31:13 Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying, Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that may know that I the LORD that doth sanctify you.

Col 2:17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body of Christ.

2Cr 5:17 Therefore if any man in Christ, a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

Matthew 28:1, In the end of the sabbaths, as it began to dawn toward the first of the sabbaths,

Then why did God bless it and make it Holy?

 

[ra123]

Mat 18:10 Take heed that ye despise not one of these little ones; for I say unto you, That in heaven their angels do always behold the face of my Father which is in heaven.

Mat 18:11 For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost.

Mat 11:25 At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes.

Mat 11:26 Even so, Father: for so it seemed good in thy sight.

Mat 11:27 All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and to whomsoever the Son will reveal.

Mat 11:28 Come unto me, all that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.

Mat 11:29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.

Mat 11:30 For my yoke easy, and my burden is light.

Yes, I've read those verses before too. Still you are making a major mistake because you still do not see that the word "sabbath" was not only used to denote the seventh-day Sabbath of the Commandment - it was also used for the various feasts outlined in Lev 23. So, to be blunt, you don't know which 'sabbath' you are trying to talk about in using the above verses that actually kind of apply.

 

[Rut]

Sorry about that I have post to nearly same posts but that happen something with my computer on the first post.As You all see I wasn`t finish yet there

 

[tall73]

Matthew 28:1, In the end of the sabbaths, as it began to dawn toward the first of the sabbaths,

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Please be informed that there will be a temporary outage in Sabbath service, from 6:53 p.m. until 6:54 p.m. due to maintanence. We hope this causes you no inconvenience. We will have the normal Sabbath economy up and running as soon as possible. Have a nice day.

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sorry for the satire, but you do realize if you take this statement as literally as you claim then all you are saying is that the Sabbaths are ending ....and beginning again. SABBATHS is the key word here. And Sabbath was well defined. So unless you take it to mean week, then Sunday is not in view here at all. Please be consistent.

 

[tall73]

Sorry about that I have post to nearly same posts but that happen something with my computer on the first post.As You all see I wasn`t finish yet there

ah ok, no problem