Which Day of the Week is the Sabbath? (2)

[Cliff2]

Please show me where these letters are in the Bible!

Thanks

Normann

Who said those letters are in the Bible?

 

[Cliff2]

http://www.biblelight.net/notsun.htm



The links below show documents that support the seven day weekly cycle as we know and has been so for many 1,000's of years.

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Inquiries made in 1932 to the United States Naval Observatory, in Washington D.C., and the Royal Greenwich Observatory in London, England, have also confirmed that the weekly cycle of 7 days as observed today has not been altered, and remains as it has been since before the time of Christ.

So both history and the Bible make it quite clear that Sunday is the first day of the week and Saturday is indeed the seventh day, which has been kept by the Jews for millennia, even to the present day.

 

[Cliff2]

http://www.biblelight.net/notsun.htm

Pope Sylvester I (314-335 A.D.) Decrees the Transfer of Sabbath Rest to Sunday:

Rabanus Maurus (776-856), abbot of Fulda and later archbishop of Mainz, Germany, was rated one of the greatest theologians of his age and probably the most cultured man of his time, and exceptionally learned in patristics. Besides, he was a zealous defender of the papacy and its teachings. In one of his works, he says,

Pope Sylvester instructed the clergy to keep the feriae. And, indeed, from an old custom he called the first day [of the week] the "Lord's [day]," on which the light was made in the beginning and also the resurrection of Christ is celebrated.6

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Rabanus Maurus does not mean to say that Sylvester was the first man who referred to the days of the week as feriae or who first started the observance of Sunday among Christians. He means that, according to the testimony of Roman Catholic writers, Sylvester confirmed those practices and made them official insofar as his church was concerned. Hence Rabanus says elsewhere in his writings:

Pope Sylvester first among the Romans ordered that the names of the days [of the week], which they previously called after the name of their gods, that is, [the day] of the Sun, [the day] of the Moon, [the day] of Mars, [the day] of Mercury, [the day] of Jupiter, [the day] of Venus, [the day] of Saturn, they should call feriae thereafter, that is the first feria, the second feria, the third feria, the fourth feria, the fifth feria, the sixth feria, because that in the beginning of Genesis it is written that God said concerning each day: on the first, "Let there be light:; on the second, "Let there be a firmament"; on the third, "Let the earth bring forth verdure"; etc. But he [Sylvester] ordered [them] to call the Sabbath by the ancient term of the law, [to call] the first feria the "Lord's day," because on it the Lord rose [from the dead], Moreover, the same pope decreed that the rest of the Sabbath should be transferred rather to the Lord's day [Sunday], on order that on that day we should rest from worldly works for the praise of God.7

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Note particularly, he says that "the same pope [Sylvester I] decreed that the rest of the Sabbath should be transferred rather to the Lord's day [Sunday]."8 According to this statement, he was the first bishop to introduce the idea that the divinely appointed rest of the Sabbath day should be transferred to the first day of the week. This is significant, especially in view of the fact that it was during Sylvester's pontificate that the emperor of Rome [Constantine] issued the first civil laws compelling men to rest from secular labor on Sunday, and that Eusebius, bishop of Caesarea, was the first theologian on record to present arguments, allegedly from the Scriptures, that Christ did transfer the rest of the Sabbath day to Sunday.

6 Rabanus Maurus, Liber de Computo (A book Concerning Computation), Chap. XXVII ("Concerning Festivals"), as translated by the writer from the Latin text in Migne's Patrologia Latina, Vol. CVII, col. 682.

7 ------------, De Clericorum Institutione (Concerning the Instruction of the Clergymen), Book II, Chap. XLVI, as translated by the writer from the Latin text in Migne's Patrologia Latina, Vol. CVII, col. 361.

8 The wording in the Latin text reads: "Statuit autem idem papa ut otium Sabbati magis in diem Dominicam transferretur, ut ea die a terrenis operibus ad laudandum Deum vacaremus."

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Source: Sabbath and Sunday in Early Christianity, by Robert L. Odom, © 1977 by the Review and Herald Publishing Association, pages 247-248.
(Taken from the above link)
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[Cliff2]

http://www.biblelight.net/notsun.htm

Pope Sylvester I (314-335 A.D.) Decrees the Transfer of Sabbath Rest to Sunday:

Rabanus Maurus (776-856), abbot of Fulda and later archbishop of Mainz, Germany, was rated one of the greatest theologians of his age and probably the most cultured man of his time, and exceptionally learned in patristics. Besides, he was a zealous defender of the papacy and its teachings. In one of his works, he says,

Pope Sylvester instructed the clergy to keep the feriae. And, indeed, from an old custom he called the first day [of the week] the "Lord's [day]," on which the light was made in the beginning and also the resurrection of Christ is celebrated.6



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Rabanus Maurus does not mean to say that Sylvester was the first man who referred to the days of the week as feriae or who first started the observance of Sunday among Christians. He means that, according to the testimony of Roman Catholic writers, Sylvester confirmed those practices and made them official insofar as his church was concerned. Hence Rabanus says elsewhere in his writings:

Pope Sylvester first among the Romans ordered that the names of the days [of the week], which they previously called after the name of their gods, that is, [the day] of the Sun, [the day] of the Moon, [the day] of Mars, [the day] of Mercury, [the day] of Jupiter, [the day] of Venus, [the day] of Saturn, they should call feriae thereafter, that is the first feria, the second feria, the third feria, the fourth feria, the fifth feria, the sixth feria, because that in the beginning of Genesis it is written that God said concerning each day: on the first, "Let there be light:; on the second, "Let there be a firmament"; on the third, "Let the earth bring forth verdure"; etc. But he [Sylvester] ordered [them] to call the Sabbath by the ancient term of the law, [to call] the first feria the "Lord's day," because on it the Lord rose [from the dead], Moreover, the same pope decreed that the rest of the Sabbath should be transferred rather to the Lord's day [Sunday], on order that on that day we should rest from worldly works for the praise of God.7



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Note particularly, he says that "the same pope [Sylvester I] decreed that the rest of the Sabbath should be transferred rather to the Lord's day [Sunday]."8 According to this statement, he was the first bishop to introduce the idea that the divinely appointed rest of the Sabbath day should be transferred to the first day of the week. This is significant, especially in view of the fact that it was during Sylvester's pontificate that the emperor of Rome [Constantine] issued the first civil laws compelling men to rest from secular labor on Sunday, and that Eusebius, bishop of Caesarea, was the first theologian on record to present arguments, allegedly from the Scriptures, that Christ did transfer the rest of the Sabbath day to Sunday.

6 Rabanus Maurus, Liber de Computo (A book Concerning Computation), Chap. XXVII ("Concerning Festivals"), as translated by the writer from the Latin text in Migne's Patrologia Latina, Vol. CVII, col. 682.


7 ------------, De Clericorum Institutione (Concerning the Instruction of the Clergymen), Book II, Chap. XLVI, as translated by the writer from the Latin text in Migne's Patrologia Latina, Vol. CVII, col. 361.

8 The wording in the Latin text reads: "Statuit autem idem papa ut otium Sabbati magis in diem Dominicam transferretur, ut ea die a terrenis operibus ad laudandum Deum vacaremus."


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Source: Sabbath and Sunday in Early Christianity, by Robert L. Odom, © 1977 by the Review and Herald Publishing Association, pages 247-248.

(Taken from the above link)

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Click here for questions and answers about the Sabbath

 

[Cliff2]

Click here for questions and answers about the Sabbath

http://dedication.www3.50megs.com/colossians.html

Look at the link above for good Sabbath support.

 

[Cliff2]

It is early Sabbath morning here in Australia,

Happy Sabbath to everyone.​

 

[BrightCandle]

It is early Sabbath morning here in Australia,

Happy Sabbath to everyone.​

Aloha Cliff!

I'm a little closer to you on the planet, this Sabbath, being that I'm on vacation in the Islands of Hawaii.

Hopefully, my next vacation will be down under in AU, and we can worship together on the Sabbath.

 

[Cliff2]

Aloha Cliff!

I'm a little closer to you on the planet, this Sabbath, being that I'm on vacation in the Islands of Hawaii.

Hopefully, my next vacation will be down under in AU, and we can worship together on the Sabbath.

Let me know when you are coming and we maybe able to meet.

 

[Cliff2]

Click here for questions and answers about the Sabbath

I would suggest that for those who really want to know about the Sabbath to click on the above and see for yourself.

 

[IgnatiusOfAntioch]

You keep throwing all . . .in with the SDA

Just curious; who, besides the SDA, are all of these other Christians that worship on Saturday?

 

[ThreeAM]

Just curious; who, besides the SDA, are all of these other Christians that worship on Saturday?

Seventh Day Baptist
Seventh Day Church of God
Seveth Day Methodist
and about 400 other congreations world wide

The Waldenseans [SP?] Kept the Sabbath and were persecuted and killed by the Catholic Church for their beliefs.

 

[jochanaan]

Well, I'm a Seventh Day Baptist, and I recognize several of my Adventist online friends here; are there people here from other groups? If so, what's your take?

 

[Maximus]

Seventh Day Baptist
Seventh Day Church of God
Seveth Day Methodist
and about 400 other congreations world wide

The Waldenseans [SP?] Kept the Sabbath and were persecuted and killed by the Catholic Church for their beliefs.

The Waldensians were a sect that arose around Lyons in southern France in the 12th century. I don't believe they were Saturday Sabbath-keepers, although it would not really surprise me if that wasn't one among their various errors.

Anyway, the Waldenses were also called "Insabbatati," "Sabbatati," and "Sabotiers," not because they kept the Saturday Sabbath but because they wore Sabots, which were wooden shoes or sandals.

 

[oldsage]

Seventh Day Baptist
Seventh Day Church of God
Seveth Day Methodist
and about 400 other congreations world wide

The Waldenseans [SP?] Kept the Sabbath and were persecuted and killed by the Catholic Church for their beliefs.

and don't forget those various Messanic Congregations in the world

Chris

 

[Cliff2]

Seventh Day Baptist
Seventh Day Church of God
Seveth Day Methodist
and about 400 other congreations world wide

The Waldenseans [SP?] Kept the Sabbath and were persecuted and killed by the Catholic Church for their beliefs.

History shows they were persecuted by the RCC.

Not sure as to what day they kept although I understand that some of them at least kept the Sabbath.

 

[Cliff2]

Which Day of the Week is the Sabbath?

So far not one person has come up with a text to say that the 7th day of the week is no longer the Sabbath.

I just happen to know the reason, there is no text to say that the 7th day of the week is no longer the Sabbath.

Also no one has come up with a text to say that the first day of the week is now the Sabbath.

 

[jgonz]

Sabbath is the 7th day of the week. And it's a gift for mankind.

 

[Cliff2]

Sabbath is the 7th day of the week. And it's a gift for mankind.

Too easy

 

[Cliff2]

Happy Sabbath to all my fellow 7th day Sabbath keepers, also Happy Sabbath to those who do not keep the 7th day as their Sabbath.

The Lord will richly bless us as we come to worship Him.

If you are in New Zealand and we do have some members there the Sabbath has been in for a few hours alrady where as here in Australia only about an hour old.

 

[jochanaan]

And happy Sabbath to you also, Cliff and our eastern Sabbath-keepers.