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Oh please. A possible future cannot be a fact, and obviously can't be falsified in the present.
Then don't do exactly that........
Awesome. I await your evidence for the existance of godly entities and their claimed role in the creation of the universe, the creation of life, etc.
Define perfect, as in when you say 'it seems unlikely that the universe started out as perfect as it is today.' How is the universe 'perfect'? It just is. That's like saying the number 4 is perfect because it's not 3.9999 or 4.000023 but a nice round number.
When we look into the fine details of the universe, it's based on chaos not order. See quantum physics. It only appears 'perfectly ordered' because you're looking at it at a high level where the underlying chaos has been averaged out.
Just because I can't 'prove it' doesn't mean that my view of the universe and how it works isn't massively more accurate than yours.
It's not a matter of proving anything, but whose theories or wild conjectures, are better at explaining the universe.
From what we've been able to find out, modern physics does a pretty damn good job at explaining the universe.
How well does religion explain the universe, and can you back up any claims that you make?
I can show that science's explanation for how the universe was formed has supporting evidence and isn't just wild conjecture. How can you do the same for religion?
I have said many times that the existence of God can't be proved or disproved, so I use logic.
Try it sometimes. You wont like the results but at least try it instead of accepting without any evidence what you now believe.
How do you explain the existence of matter, energy and life from lifeless elements?
No. As long as you hold on to that notion you will never understand what a "species" is or how speciation happens.
I know what a species is. Apparently you don;t. I know speciation does not result in a new species. Something else you don' know.
That's why I keep asking you how much math you know. How far back to we have to go with this? High school algebra & geometry? College level calculus and differential equations? Have you ever taken a course in inferential statistic?
How far I have one in math is irrelevant until you show how it supports evolution.
What's a "kind?"
Dog---cat---corn---robin---bass.
I didn't even mention a closed system. What I wanted you to find out is the increase in entropy is a criteria for spontaneity.
Right, right... so everyone needs evidence for their claims, except you.
Got it.
I don't believe things that aren't supported by evidence.
I'm not religious.
I don't because it is unknown.
You also don't know, even if you claim otherwise (without evidence) because your faith based religion requires you to.
None of those things are relevant to evolution theory though. Matter, energy and life all exist and we can study them and unravel how they work. Regardless of where they come from.
Life works the way it does, no matter how it originated.
If you are going to try to read between the lines, you need a coach. I have said many,many times I ca'[t prove what I believe and you can disprove it.
Then present the evidenced for natural selection.
This discussion is not about religion, it is about science.
Evolution needs explain the origin of life
Right.
OK, Omega, you're too smart for me. You win and evolution can't possibly work and we are left without an explanation for the diversity of life.
Now what?
Dog---cat---corn---robin---bass.
If your 'logic' was correct, we could never achieve more than we've already achieved.Of course it can. If something is impossible, it is a fact. Man has known and had all of the elements of life for many years and yet have not even come close to creating even a simple life form.
It is tremendously different.That is no different than the great number of dog varieties in the same length of time.
Where did you get 4000 years? You just made that up with no evidence. Evolutionist have gotten very good at make believe.
Not if God put them in a state of hibernation or they were babies.
If you figure out the CF of the ark and he average size of the animals, there is plenty of room for food.
Unless you can prove evolution did not occur, you lose.Unless your can prove there is not an omnipotent God, you lose.
It is not that there is no evidence. It is impossible for lifeless elements to produce life. Even science admits that.
Jehovah the Intelligent Designer wins.
Interesting - surely you are not implying that YOU do?Not necessary for those who understand even basic genetics.
You have been taught by evolutionists, who were taught by evolutionists who were taught by evolutionists and they NEVER PRESENTED any verifiable scientific evidence that supports evolution.
First of all I did not pontificate.
I've posted this like 8 times, and a couple of other posters posted this well before I got here. Yet creationists keep claiming that there is no evidence....Talk is cheap. Prove me wrong, then present the evidence for anything the TOE preaches. Your post are all rhetoric and not evidence.
I'm not going to spoon feed you.You can't tell because you haven't offered any evidence for me to evaluate.
Lol! you have no idea. The only scientific truths are observed facts - i.e. the data on which hypotheses are based, and on which theories are built. Evolution is observed, it is a fact. The theory of evolution is not a fact, it explains the facts.That is exactly what real science deals in, but since evolution has no basic scientific truth the disciple of Darwin have twisted and lied about what real science does.
Science is a broad church - far more Christian scientists accept it than reject it, and very few Christian scientists better qualified in evolutionary biology reject it.There are Christian scientist who reject what you accept. and they are far better qualified in science than you are.
I have said many times that the existence of God can't be proved or disproved, so I use logic.
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