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Discussion in 'Eschatology - Endtimes & Prophecy Forum' started by joshua 1 9, Sep 4, 2019.

  1. renniks

    renniks Well-Known Member

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    Seriously. Obama was controlling the weather? :)
     
  2. joshua 1 9

    joshua 1 9 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Yes that is why coal was an issue because he had environmental protection. The biggest issue for me was when he burned up all the old gas guzzler cars. There were people that really needed those cars to get to work and he destroyed them.

    They also use HAARP to control the weather but there is no information available on that because of security clearances. If anyone were to talk about it they could go to jail for a year.

    Environmental protection began with Al Gore under Clinton. We have a national park next to our city and that is starting to get out of control. People are worried about birds from the park coming into the city to carry off their cat or small dog. It use to be people were allowed to shoot birds and animals if they were worried that a child could be injured. The turkey buzzards are vile and disgusting. They like to eat road kill and salvage other disgusting dead animals. If you give them any problems they will fly over your head and shake off all of their disgusting filth on you. All in the name of environmental protection.
     
  3. zoidar

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    I would love to push the reset button to be born again a second time, but I quess that won't work? To be renewed in the first love.
     
  4. joshua 1 9

    joshua 1 9 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    We are renewed daily. Each day is a new beginning. Esp as we give praise and thanks onto Him for all He has done. So we can rejoice and be glad.
     
  5. joshua 1 9

    joshua 1 9 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Every year at new year people around the world get excited over the opportunity to start off a new year and leave the old year behind. This has to do with renewal. I talk about how we need to recharge our battery. Pastors can get wore down in their ministry and they need to go to God for strength to get their battery recharged. So they have something to offer people. Every night we go to sleep hoping to wake up refreshed and renewed to start the new day. During the civil war they wanted to burn the south. Repentance means to burn the bridges and burn the house so you can not go back to your old way of life. When the Hebrew Nation was scattered to the world in 70 AD they burned the Temple and they burned Jerusalem so that they could not go back to the life they had.
     
  6. sdowney717

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    Well if you read, you will find the resurrection takes place at the beginning of the 1000 years.

    The rest of the dead are raised after the 1000 years to be judged on their deeds by God and are facing the Lake of Fire. The second death is their destruction, and is something Christians do not fear.
    Rev 20
    4 And I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was committed to them. Then I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God, who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received his mark on their foreheads or on their hands. And they lived and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.

    5 But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

    6 Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection. Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with Him a thousand years.
     
  7. keras

    keras Writer of Bible prophecy studies.

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    Who takes part in the first resurrection?
    Revelation 20:4 plainly tells us that it will only be those who were martyred during the Great Tribulation.

    What Paul says in 1 Corinthians 15:23 does not override the Words of Jesus. There is no general resurrection until the end of the Millennium, when everyone who has ever lived will stand before the GWT in Judgment. Including Daniel 12:13 and Job 19:25-27.
     
  8. sdowney717

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    Yes, well no, because Jesus tells us we will not come into judgement.
    We will not be judged by God on our deeds, at the judgement seat of God and in danger of the Lake of Fire.

    John 5:24 New King James Version (NKJV)

    24 “Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life.

    And those people at the second resurrection are dead. And where are they coming from ? Hell for one thing.
    What are they judged in for gaining eternal life or not, their works, nothing there about their faith.
    And where are believers after they die? With the Lord, not in Hell and not dead, Jesus says they have passed from death into life.

    So we are misreading Rev20 , since where are the Christians who died in the Lord??

    12 And I saw the dead, small and great, standing before God, and books were opened. And another book was opened, which is the Book of Life. And the dead were judged according to their works, by the things which were written in the books. 13 The sea gave up the dead who were in it, and Death and Hades delivered up the dead who were in them. And they were judged, each one according to his works.
     
  9. sdowney717

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    a. Then I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God,

    b. who had not worshiped the beast or his image,

    c. and had not received his mark on their foreheads or on their hands.

    Well Christians qualify, as some have been martyred, none have worshiped the beast or his image, and none have received his mark. As 3 Separate characteristics, it is the only way to read it and make sense of this.

    As OTHERWISE, you must twist many other scriptures to fit them into your understanding of the Great White Throne Judgement.
     
  10. sdowney717

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    12 And I saw the dead, small and great, standing before God, and books were opened. And another book was opened, which is the Book of Life. And the dead were judged according to their works, by the things which were written in the books. 13 The sea gave up the dead who were in it, and Death and Hades delivered up the dead who were in them. And they were judged, each one according to his works.

    I do not gain eternal life by doing good works, and no one else does either. My name is not written in the book of life because of my good works, for if righteousness with God was gained by performing works of the law, then Christ died in vain.
     
  11. joshua 1 9

    joshua 1 9 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    I was told we stand before the Judgement throne of Christ to suffer loss or gain reward. Unbelievers go before the Throne of God

    "Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life." (John5:24)
     
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    joshua 1 9 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Good works is evidence that you have eternal life. If the tree does not produce fruit then it is cut down and thrown into the fire
     
  13. keras

    keras Writer of Bible prophecy studies.

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    Scripture is clear on this; ONLY those who were killed for their faith during the period that the Anti-Christ is in control of all the world, will be resurrected when Jesus Returns.
    The rest of the dead, as I prove with Daniel and Job, await the GWT - AFTER the Millennium.

    Regarding a forthcoming 'reset of our civilization', be assured that the Lord will correct the situation today, which is once again: as in the days of Noah.
     
  14. Shrewd Manager

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    That's true, there are nephilim hybrids in the land again. Products of breeding programs fueled by genetic manipulation and increasingly sophisticated technology.
     
  15. sdowney717

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    Good works is not good fruit. These are different things.
    If they were entirely the same, then there would be only one word used.

    Good works benefit man only, while good fruit we bear to God as He has worked in us, like a farmer planting a crop.
     
  16. sdowney717

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    Judgement is condemnation.
    I stand by what Christ has taught about the judgement versus life.
    Christians wont come under judgement (condemnation and damnation)
    Your use of the OT, here, well Jesus is the answer and He has the proper teaching and understanding of life versus judgement.
    Change your mind.
    Your either going to be resurrected to life or resurrected to judgement, condemnation, and damnation

    Here are 3 versions that say this.
    John 5

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    27 And he has given him authority to execute judgment, because he is the Son of Man.
    28 Do not marvel at this, for an hour is coming when all who are in the tombs will hear his voice
    29 and come out, those who have done good to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil to the resurrection of judgment.

    Geneva Bible 1599
    27 And hath given him power also to execute judgment, in that he is the Son of man.
    28 Marvel not at this: for the hour shall come, in the which all that are in the graves, shall hear his voice.
    29 And they shall come forth, that have done good, unto the resurrection of life: but they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of condemnation.

    John 5:27-29 21st Century King James Version (KJ21)
    27 and hath given Him authority to execute judgment also, because He is the Son of Man.
    28 Marvel not at this; for the hour is coming in which all that are in the graves shall hear His voice
    29 and shall come forth — they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life, and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

    You think you have good reasons to believe as you do, but I have better reasons as this is what Christ said.
     
  17. joshua 1 9

    joshua 1 9 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Both are evidence of repentance and regeneration. Repentance means to burn the house down. To put an end to death and destruction and a beginning to life and liberty. To become a new creation in Christ. Old has passed away and everything has become new.
     
  18. sdowney717

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    There is though a huge difference between fruit and work.
    You must bear good fruit to God or you wont be saved. Infact a bad tree can not bear good fruit!
    But performing good works saves none.

    The fruit of the Holy Spirit displayed in a person show the evidence of a changed life, they exist in your life because God changed you into a new creation.
    Anyone can do good works, since all they do help your fellow man.

    Matthew 12, the good fruit is what we are saying from the new heart vs the wicked heart.
    A Tree Known by Its Fruit
    33 “Either make the tree good and its fruit good, or else make the tree bad and its fruit bad; for a tree is known by its fruit. 34 Brood of vipers! How can you, being evil, speak good things? For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks. 35 A good man out of the good treasure of his heart brings forth good things, and an evil man out of the evil treasure brings forth evil things. 36 But I say to you that for every idle word men may speak, they will give account of it in the day of judgment. 37 For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned.”
     
  19. sdowney717

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    You Will Know Them by Their Fruits, false prophets speak lies and teach the people evil things to fill their hearts with wickedness.

    15 “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. 16 You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles?

    17 Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit.
    18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit.
    19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.

    20 Therefore by their fruits you will know them.
     
  20. joshua 1 9

    joshua 1 9 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Works are not required for salvation. This has more to do with rewards and who is going to suffer loss. Clearly salvation is a free gift from God.
     
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