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I am not going to debate every point, as I have frankly had enough of arguing this... I am in the unfortunate position of being considered wrong by both sides in this , and it gets tiring.
And anyway, by your logic bolded above, I don't exist, so why bother.
One of the main problems here is claiming that people are homosexual whereas God obviously doesnt see people as homosexual. Thats the problem.
So we are having to argue about assumption when the assumption is false.
God created male and female which includes people who identify themselves as homosexuals, but God created male and female to be united, so homosexuals arent what God created those people to be.
Therefore when people who claim to be homosexual say God created them, they dont know who they really are, as His Biblical testimony shows. If they insist on identifying themselves by their sexual attraction which is contrary to Gods purposes then they are not honouring God who made them. Romans 1 is the best example of this.
So to answer tulc's question a little while back,
the answer is human's created the idea which is a result of disobedience and rebellion to God's purposes. [/SIZE][/FONT]
This thread is completely derailed and OFF TOPIC.
Sin had not yet entered into the scenario in the events
quoted from Genesis 1 and 2.
So, let's please stick to discussing God's revealed plan for man
which is demonstrated for us in the Scriptures provided in the OP
from Genesis 1 and 2 which took place BEFORE the fall of man, therefore
BEFORE sin entered into the picture.
This is of course giving the benefit of the doubt to those who
are creating all of the strawmen and red herring arguments and derailments, that
it isn't being done on purpose and they are just having difficulty understanding that
there was a time on the earth that man existed without sin and discussing the topic
in alignment with that understanding.
So, I thank you for getting back on topic in the proper context of the topic in advance.
Doesnt matter as neither have been answered. The thread is designed to demonstrate there is no record of God creating homosexuals.uhmmm (again) no it's not. It's about where were homosexuals created in the creation account, not where was homosexuality in the creation account. See the difference? It's a common mistake.
tulc(glad we could clear that up!)
Glad you found it funnylol....."humans created the idea of homosexuality?"
well if they didnt and God didnt, who did?then that means they also created the idea of heterosexuality.
Based on what ?You're beginning to sound more and more like a (misinformed) atheist.
On the contrary.
The passages explain EVERYTHING the topic was
created to discuss.
And you are fortunate you were only reported once by me
as the Lord is a witness that you should have probably received
about 10 reports from this thread alone.
Do you think it might be time for you to grow up by now CaDan?
Can we define terms?
What is off-topic, the creation or the gay?
On the contrary.
The passages explain EVERYTHING the topic was
created to discuss.
So, I will post it yet again, and perhaps this time we can move away from the childish derailments, ad hominems, non sequiturs, red herrings, strawmen ad nauseum and actually answer the question.
Remember, all of the living creations that God said was good, especially mankind, (made in His image) and instructed to be fruitful and multiply was also BEFORE the fall of mankind.
So, again, I ask you....
Of course this problem is caused by people reading back into the record the modern meaning of the word homosexual (a word which did not even exist until the 1860s.)
The Bible condemns temple prostitution, Paul condemns the use of slaves for sexual gratification and pederasty and the OT seems to condemn the use by male-male couples of a woman's bed, I fail to see it condemning what we understand today as homosexuality.
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