Where is the record of God creating Homosexuals in the Creation Account?

Angel4Truth · Jun 4, 2008

stumpjumper said:
And you and I?

Are we created as a part of God's creation within which is creator of preserver of all life?

Are you without sin?

Am I?

You guys are chomping at the bit to get this thing closed- so close it already and stop playing and wasting peoples time. Your questions arent on topic the topic is the creation account - obviously you cannot answer the op. Have a good day - im not wasting any more of my time.

CaDan · Jun 4, 2008

Which creation account? The first in Genesis? The second? The one in Colossians?

*still looking for the one that explains Lutherans*

onemessiah · Jun 4, 2008

Angel4Truth said:
You guys are chomping at the bit to get this thing closed- so close it already and stop playing and wasting peoples time. Your questions arent on topic the topic is the creation account - obviously you cannot answer the op. Have a good day - im not wasting any more of my time.

See ya

onemessiah · Jun 4, 2008

CaDan said:
Which creation account? The first in Genesis? The second? The one in Colossians?

*still looking for the one that explains Lutherans*

KCKID · Jun 4, 2008

Come on guys ...get real. Creation has been simplified into a fable. Surely we've come of age to realize this. For those of us who DO realize this, this issue is therefore moot ...or is that mute ...?

IamRedeemed · Jun 4, 2008

If you are tired of hearing it then just imagine how
tiresome it is to have to keep saying it being that it
is evidently true according to the posts in
this thread. So, maybe you all should "knock it off".
That and a few other things you continue to do in this thread.

CaDan said:
Knock it off.

These accusations that someone does not read scripture are tiresome.

IamRedeemed · Jun 4, 2008

Exactly. Why is this so difficult for some to wrap their heads around?
(truly I don't think that is the problem though quite frankly. As I said
before, it is not what isn't being understood that I believe is troubling them)

Angel4Truth said:
CaDan read the OP discussing the creation of adam and eve - they were created without sin. So then a sinner was not created by God in the creation account. I mean some want to be literal so literally by both the name of this thread and the OP discussion - God didnt create homosexuals in the creation account, nor liars, thieves, murderers, rapists, etc..

Mankind became those things themselves because of sin.

onemessiah · Jun 4, 2008

IamRedeemed said:
If you are tired of hearing it then just imagine how
tiresome it is to have to keep saying it being that it
is evidently true according to the posts in
this thread. So, maybe you all should "knock it off".
That and a few other things you continue to do in this thread.

I suppose that your understanding of scripture is far superior to everyone else's?

Hentenza · Jun 4, 2008

Mod Hat On

Closing thread for a cool down.

CaDan · Jun 4, 2008

We have a problem here.

The OP presents a bad argument. That argument, however, incorporates Scripture. It also takes a shot at some people's favorite boogey man. Thus, there are some, based merely upon the incorporation of Scripture and the shot at gays, who feel it must be a good argument. After all, they agree with the conclusion!

But . . .

Not all arguments are good arguments even if one agrees with the conclusion. An argument may be fallacious and still correct. One way to test that is to see what else one might conclude from the argument--what other conclusions one might draw from the same premises. In this case, we can draw the conclusion that Lutherans do not exist, that infertile couples do not exist, that CF Staff does not exist. We can also draw the conclusion that there are things in the universe not created by God.

These are evidently incorrect conclusions, yet they flow from this argument. When an argument gives incorrect conclusions, either its premises or its reasoning are faulty.

Over the many pages of this thread, that is what I have been demonstrating.

CaDan · Jun 4, 2008

IamRedeemed said:
Exactly. Why is this so difficult for some to wrap their heads around?
(truly I don't think that is the problem though quite frankly. As I said
before, it is not what isn't being understood that I believe is troubling them)

That's a different passage. I thought we were limited to just the passage you quoted. Or have you changed the rules?

Hentenza · Jun 5, 2008

Mod Hat On

The thread is now open but I do expect everyone to stay on topic and not flame each other. This thread will be closed again if we receive any more reports. Please play nice, respect each other, and glorify God with your posts.

CaDan · Jun 5, 2008

I have restored two of my posts that I self-deleted because I accidentally posted them after the thread was closed last night.

tulc · Jun 5, 2008

So...did anyone ever explain how homosexuals stopped being people (and thus created by God) and became the only things not created by God?
tulc(just a guy looking for some answers)

CaDan · Jun 5, 2008

tulc said:
So...did anyone ever explain how homosexuals stopped being people (and thus created by God) and became the only things not created by God?
tulc(just a guy looking for some answers)

Answers are off topic. Or so I have heard.

tulc · Jun 5, 2008

CaDan said:
Answers are off topic. Or so I have heard.

Ahhh! Ok...then the creation of homosexuals took place at the same time all us sinners were created: when Adam and Eve were created.
tulc(that seems easy enough)

onemessiah · Jun 5, 2008

CaDan said:
Answers are off topic. Or so I have heard.

Blasphemy!
Only the responses that don't pander to the OP are off topic.

So my question regarding the OP is this...
Who created sexuality? When was it created? Did god condemn any form of sexuality in the creation account?

Tenebrae · Jun 5, 2008

onemessiah said:
Blasphemy!
Only the responses that don't pander to the OP are off topic.

So my question regarding the OP is this...
Who created sexuality? When was it created? Did god condemn any form of sexuality in the creation account?

I dont think God condemmed sexuality, I mean Adam and Eve walked with God and they were naked. If God had a problem with that I'm sure he could have whipped them up some clothes. Gods problem was that Adam and Eve thought they knew better than God

Sex wasnt a problem with God as far as i know

onemessiah · Jun 5, 2008

Tenebrae said:
I dont think God condemmed sexuality, I mean Adam and Eve walked with God and they were naked. If God had a problem with that I'm sure he could have whipped them up some clothes. Gods problem was that Adam and Eve thought they knew better than God

Sex wasnt a problem with God as far as i know

Agreed, but did God condemn homosexuality in the creation account?
I don't recall him saying, "When your kids have kids, make sure the boys don't have sex with other boys and likewise for girls."

Floatingaxe · Jun 5, 2008

He created sex between a husband and wife only. anything outside of that is outside of God's blessing, and therefore a sin. Later, he goes on to name a few sexual sins.

I can't believe we have to actually teach this here. Sexuality 101 according to God's Word.

Wait again---I do believe we have to teach the basics here!

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