So ? We do not sin today because we "SHOULD". I don't think ANYONE said we "SHOULD" sin.Yeshua, NO Christian should think we should EVER sin for ANY reason. That IS the truth.
If you don't believe me, read Exodus 20.
The sin is in twisting your own words to try to convince yourself or others about something you posted that was incorrect.Yeshua, if you say there is a reason to sin, you are saying we should sin. Were you not telling me there is a reason it is wrong tell the truth despite God's command to do so?
As noted already in many posts on this forum, and one or more on this thread,We all know lying is a sin. Therefore, lying for ANY reason is a sin. To God, it is on the same level as adultery, murder, theft, and creating idols.
Judging others is not noticing and discerning that someone's actions are wrong in order to avoid them yourself. It is condemning them in anyway by thinking you're better than that person. Read Revelation 22:11, Jesus' words delivered to John through an angel. If we ever spread negative stories about others, we in a sense are judging them. As Matthew 18 declares, we need to go to them and share with them our concern in love. The rest of the process is there, ending it up with the church leaders. Gossip about people is a result of our judging others.to say the truth about something bad is not to judge.
million examples
Right. But "excessive" is not an issue.Judgment becomes excessive when you say something like "I believe you are wrong about (****) and you are going to hell." Here you are appropriating to yourself a judgment that belongs to God alone.
Right. But "excessive" is not an issue.
Judging others is not noticing and discerning that someone's actions are wrong in order to avoid them yourself. It is condemning them in anyway by thinking you're better than that person. Read Revelation 22:11, Jesus' words delivered to John through an angel. If we ever spread negative stories about others, we in a sense are judging them. As Matthew 18 declares, we need to go to them and share with them our concern in love. The rest of the process is there, ending it up with the church leaders. Gossip about people is a result of our judging others.
I don't agree. The passage you cite is in reference to hypocritical judgment. Believers can overcome grievous sin. They are supposed to do so as a part of God's grace (See: Titus 2:11-12). Also see 2 Corinthians 7:1.
to say the truth about something bad is not to judge.
million examples
Believers can request forgiveness of for even tiny sins as well.
Else death.
There is only one sin that does lead to death, and that one sinThe Bible uses the term grievous sin.
I believe a grievous sin is any sin that leads to spiritual death. The breaking of the Moral Law (Like: Do not murder, do not lie, do not covet, etc.) is clearly described in the Bible as leading unto death. The Bible also mentions a sin that does not lead unto death (1 John 5:17). Paul refuses to heed the warnings of the Spirit on not going to Jerusalem and he was not condemned for doing so. There are other examples, as well.
The Bible uses the term grievous sin.
I believe a grievous sin is any sin that leads to spiritual death.
Not thinking God will forgive, is the one sin that leads to death.
The rest do not have to.
There is only one sin that does lead to death, and that one sin
is not accepting forgiveness for your sins from God.
But the wages of every other sin, is death.
There are no minor or major sins.
There is accepting forgiveness for a less than perfect life, and not accepting.
Believing God is not gracious enough, or important enough, or big enough to
be able to forgive your "big deal" sins.....that is blasphemy against the Spirit.
You said:1 John 5:16-17
If anyone sees his brother committing a sin not leading to death, he shall ask, and God will give him life—to those who commit sins that do not lead to death. There is sin that leads to death; I do not say that one should pray for that. All wrongdoing is sin, but there is sin that does not lead to death.
You said:1 John 1:9
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
You said:1 John 1:8
If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
You said:Matthew 12:32
And whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.
You said:Hebrews 10:26
For if we go on sinning deliberately after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins,
You said:Romans 6:23
For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Luke 12:10
And everyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but the one who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven.
Matthew 12:31
Therefore I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven people, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven.
This could help: consider whether you yourself are authorized to judge souls. (one can learn the answer to that by reading through the gospels, where we learn Who is authorized to be the Judge on the day to come).
Possibly the misunderstood thing might be it's not yet clear that I've used the phrase "judge people" as totally unalike to judging a person's actions. So...since I'm saying we can rightfully judge a person's actions....then when I say we cannot judge a person, what precisely did I mean???
For example, someone might better respond to me: "What do you mean when you say we can judge a person's actions, but should not judge a person? That sounds like a contradiction."
And then I'd know I'd not written in a clear enough way, and it needs a longer explanation, to help them get the difference I'm pointing at.
We can know a tree by its fruit -- that's "judging actions/words/deeds".
We are not the only authorized Judge of souls though. Whole different thing.
Notice this specific use of the word 'condemn' -- that's what it means to judge a person (as a soul). Those who judge persons as persons, as souls, will themselves be condemned, just as they have condemned others (unless they confess and repent to the Lord! and show that is real repentance by ceasing to do it further):
Luke 6:37 Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven.
So, none of us is ever authorized to judge others' souls, to condemn them. We can though carefully judge actions.
Perhaps I should append this clarification to post #13, do you think?
are not preferencesJohn 7:24 teaches us to judge with righteous judgment. That means we have to judge against the light of scripture. So when we see someone committing adultery we are free to judge them against the light of scripture, for they obviously are committing a sin.
We do need to be careful that we aren't judging people for issues that scripture is silent on. Liberty of conscience is important. I find believers are particularly harsh with one another over what amounts to personal preferences. The fact that someone doesn't share the same personal preferences as you is not indicative of sin in their lives.
what are you trying to sayWell. I'm not sure. But what I DO know is that a viper by any other name is still a viper ...
whyJudgment becomes excessive when you say something like "I believe you are wrong about (****) and you are going to hell." Here you are appropriating to yourself a judgment that belongs to God alone.
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