Where is the Evidence of a Gap in the 70 weeks of Dan 9?

[A71]

Glitch

 

[BABerean2]

The baptism of the Spirit only began at Pentecost.

Isa_63:11 Then he remembered the days of old, Moses, and his people, saying, Where is he that brought them up out of the sea with the shepherd of his flock? where is he that put his holy Spirit within him?


Luk 1:41 And it came to pass, that, when Elisabeth heard the salutation of Mary, the babe leaped in her womb; and Elisabeth was filled with the Holy Ghost:


Luk 1:67 And his father Zacharias was filled with the Holy Ghost, and prophesied, saying,
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[Davy]

Jesus confirmed the New Covenant in His Blood at Calvary during the 70th week. There's no reference to any covenant being broken. His Covenant confirmation by His death brought an end to the old covenant sacrifices and rituals.

It doesn't get any more Biblical than that.

Wrong.

Jesus was sacrificed on the cross at the 69th week, and that is when He was 'cut off' per the Daniel prophecy.

The 70th week has NOTHING to do with Jesus' Ministry or crucifixion.

 

[A71]

Ugh. A little leaven goes a long way

Wrong.

Jesus was sacrificed on the cross at the 69th week, and that is when He was 'cut off' per the Daniel prophecy.

The 70th week has NOTHING to do with Jesus' Ministry or crucifixion.

 

[A71]

Isa_63:11 Then he remembered the days of old, Moses, and his people, saying, Where is he that brought them up out of the sea with the shepherd of his flock? where is he that put his holy Spirit within him?


Luk 1:41 And it came to pass, that, when Elisabeth heard the salutation of Mary, the babe leaped in her womb; and Elisabeth was filled with the Holy Ghost:


Luk 1:67 And his father Zacharias was filled with the Holy Ghost, and prophesied, saying,
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Being baptized in the Holy Spirit, and being filled with it are two different things

 

[Davy]

Daniel 9 weeks (KJV) = years, total 70 weeks = 490 years
Jesus was "cut off" after a period of 7 weeks & 62 weeks = 69 weeks

Dan 9:26
26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
KJV

The prophecy about Jesus ends with the colon at the end of the phrase in red.

 

[A71]

The New Covenant is relatively straightforward, but there are some things that require study. Why not start a separate thread and there people can steer you back on course.

 

[A71]

And you smuggle in 2000 years in the colon. Says it all really

Daniel 9 weeks (KJV) = years, total 70 weeks = 490 years
Jesus was "cut off" after a period of 7 weeks & 62 weeks = 69 weeks

Dan 9:26
26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
KJV

The prophecy about Jesus ends with the colon at the end of the phrase in red.

 

[Davy]

Don't you just love it folks with those who are so arrogant to think they are on the right course in God's Word, and they don't even know that Daniel 9 reveals our Lord Jesus being 'cut off' (crucified) to complete the 69th week, with the final 70th week pending? I mean, how much gall does it take to TRY... and move Christ's crucifixion to the end of the 70th week where it is NOT written? Would you really trust someone as arrogant as that?

 

[BABerean2]

Jesus was sacrificed on the cross at the 69th week, and that is when He was 'cut off' per the Daniel prophecy.

The 70th week has NOTHING to do with Jesus' Ministry or crucifixion.

Get out your calendar and determine what week comes "after" this week.

Dan 9:26 "And after the sixty-two weeks Messiah shall be cut off, but not for Himself; And the people of the prince who is to come Shall destroy the city and the sanctuary. The end of it shall be with a flood, And till the end of the war desolations are determined.

What week comes "after" the 69th weeks are ended?

You can attempt to ignore the word "after" in the verse above.
But you also have to ignore Matthew 10:5-7, and Romans 1:16, and Galatians 1:14-18, which reveal a time period of about 7 years when the Gospel was taken "first" to Israel, before Paul began his ministry to the Gentiles.

Based on Luke 21:24-28, and Roman 11:25, we will be in the "times of the Gentiles" until the Second Coming of Christ.

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[A71]

Who are these people?
Bring the arrogant ones forward so that we may shake
Them down.



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Don't you just love it folks with those who are so arrogant to think they are on the right course in God's Word, and they don't even know that Daniel 9 reveals our Lord Jesus being 'cut off' (crucified) to complete the 69th week, with the final 70th week pending? I mean, how much gall does it take to TRY... and move Christ's crucifixion to the end of the 70th week where it is NOT written? Would you really trust someone as arrogant as that?

 

[BABerean2]

Being baptized in the Holy Spirit, and being filled with it are two different things

1Co 3:16 Do you not know that you are the temple of God and that the Spirit of God dwells in you?


Eph 1:13 In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise,

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[A71]

Why are we arguing??
Everyone knows that the new covenant started
When Christ was crucified and resurrected.

I think you need to start a new thread,
I've made one for you

 

[jgr]

Don't you just love it folks with those who are so arrogant to think they are on the right course in God's Word, and they don't even know that Daniel 9 reveals our Lord Jesus being 'cut off' (crucified) to complete the 69th week, with the final 70th week pending? I mean, how much gall does it take to TRY... and move Christ's crucifixion to the end of the 70th week where it is NOT written? Would you really trust someone as arrogant as that?

Would you really trust someone as arrogant as C. H. Spurgeon? Presumably you've heard of him.
He is one of the numerous defenders of the faith from the first 1,800 years of the true Christian Church, the prevailing majority of whom were also arrogant.

Here is a compendium of his sermons on Daniel. Click on "Daniel 9v24" in the bookmarks, or issue a "find" command on "MESSIAH'S GLORIOUS WORK", to view his sermon on Daniel 9:24, whose enumerated accomplishments Spurgeon declares were fulfilled by Christ's perfect and completed sacrifice at Calvary.

That sacrifice was offered in Daniel's 70th week.

 

[Erik Nelson]

Get out your calendar and determine what week comes "after" this week.

Dan 9:26 "And after the sixty-two weeks Messiah shall be cut off, but not for Himself; And the people of the prince who is to come Shall destroy the city and the sanctuary. The end of it shall be with a flood, And till the end of the war desolations are determined.

What week comes "after" the 69th weeks are ended?

You can attempt to ignore the word "after" in the verse above.
But you also have to ignore Matthew 10:5-7, and Romans 1:16, and Galatians 1:14-18, which reveal a time period of about 7 years when the Gospel was taken "first" to Israel, before Paul began his ministry to the Gentiles.

Based on Luke 21:24-28, and Roman 11:25, we will be in the "times of the Gentiles" until the Second Coming of Christ.

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after the (7+62)nd week most naturally means at the end of the same, before the next one starts

taken literally, the Crucifixion occurred in a seventh "Saturday" Sabbath year

the final single 7 is divided into 3.5+3.5 and clearly occurs after all of the above

 

[BABerean2]

after the (7+62)nd week most naturally means at the end of the same, before the next one starts

taken literally, the Crucifixion occurred in a seventh "Saturday" Sabbath year

the final single 7 is divided into 3.5+3.5 and clearly occurs after all of the above

If I agree to help you paint your house "after" this week, it most naturally would occur during the next week.

Christ's earthly ministry began at His baptism.
This is when His father made an announcement from heaven and when the Holy Spirit came upon Him like a dove.
Since there are 4 Passovers in the New Testament, His earthly ministry lasted 3 1/2 years.

Therefore, He was cut off during the middle of a week of years.

Based on Matthew 10:5-7, and Romans 1:16, and Galatians 1:14-18, the Gospel was taken "first" to the Jews for a period of about 7 years, before Paul began his ministry to the Gentiles.
This was the 70th week of Daniel during the first century.

Based on Luke 21:24-28, and Romans 11:25, "the times of the Gentiles" began after the 70th week, and will continue until the future Second Coming of Christ.

If we ignored all of the above and assumed that He was crucified precisely at the end of the 69th week, it would put His resurrection and ascending into heaven during the 70th week.

There is no logical way to get a future 70th week of Daniel, based on scripture.

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[Erik Nelson]

If I agree to help you paint your house "after" this week, it most naturally would occur during the next week.

Christ's earthly ministry began at His baptism.
This is when His father made an announcement from heaven and when the Holy Spirit came upon Him like a dove.
Since there are 4 Passovers in the New Testament, His earthly ministry lasted 3 1/2 years.

Therefore, He was cut off during the middle of a week of years.

Based on Matthew 10:5-7, and Romans 1:16, and Galatians 1:14-18, the Gospel was taken "first" to the Jews for a period of about 7 years, before Paul began his ministry to the Gentiles.
This was the 70th week of Daniel during the first century.

Based on Luke 21:24-28, and Romans 11:25, "the times of the Gentiles" began after the 70th week, and will continue until the future Second Coming of Christ.

If we ignored all of the above and assumed that He was crucified precisely at the end of the 69th week, it would put His resurrection and ascending into heaven during the 70th week.

There is no logical way to get a future 70th week of Daniel, based on scripture.

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the text doesn't say "after", it says

אַחַר ʼachar, akh-ar'; from H309; properly, the hind part

the Messiah is cut off in the hind part of the (7+62)nd week, ie in the last year of the week of years, plausibly a Sabbath year

nothing is stated about the final 70th divided week until the next verse

you're reading the beginning of verse 26 deep into verse 27

 

[BABerean2]

the text doesn't say "after", it says

אַחַר ʼachar, akh-ar'; from H309; properly, the hind part

the Messiah is cut off in the hind part of the (7+62)nd week, ie in the last year of the week of years, plausibly a Sabbath year

nothing is stated about the final 70th divided week until the next verse

you're reading the beginning of verse 26 deep into verse 27

That Hebrew word can also mean "after".

There were no verses when the text was written.

H310
אַחַר
'achar
akh-ar'
From H309; properly the hind part; generally used as an adverb or conjugation, after (in various senses): - after (that, -ward), again, at, away from, back (from, -side), behind, beside, by, follow (after, -ing), forasmuch, from, hereafter, hinder end, + out (over) live, + persecute, posterity, pursuing, remnant, seeing, since, thence [-forth], when, with.
Total KJV occurrences: 714

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[LittleLambofJesus]

Get out your calendar and determine what week comes "after" this week.
Based on Luke 21:24-28, and Roman 11:25, we will be in the "times of the Gentiles" until the Second Coming of Christ.

Would Ezekiel 30:3 be the same event as Luke 21:24 and Revelation 6:11?

Ezekiel 30:
1 And a word of Yahweh is coming to me to say of:
2 "Son of adam! prophesy thou! and thou say,
'Thus says Adonay Yahweh: 'Wail ye! 'Woe! for Day!'
3 that near Day, and near Day of Yahweh,
a Day of cloud, Time/`ethעֵת (`eth) <06256> of Nations shall become.


Luke 21:24
"And they shall be falling by mouth of sword, and they shall be being led captive into all the Nations. And Jerusalem shall be being trampled/pathsousin <3961> (5692) by nations until which may be being fulfilled/plhrwqwsin <4137> Times/καιρός (kairos)<2540> of nations
[Ezekiel 30:1/Daniel 12/Revelation 11:2/ 13:10]

#4137 used 2 times in Revelation.......Revelation 3:2 and:

Revelation 6:11
And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them that they should rest yet for a little season,
until their fellow-servants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilling/plhrwsontai<4137>

 

[BABerean2]

Would Ezekiel 30:3 be the same event as Luke 21:24 and Revelation 6:11?

Not based on the context of the rest of the passage found below.

Eze 30:1 The word of the LORD came again unto me, saying,
Eze 30:2 Son of man, prophesy and say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Howl ye, Woe worth the day!
Eze 30:3 For the day is near, even the day of the LORD is near, a cloudy day; it shall be the time of the heathen.
Eze 30:4 And the sword shall come upon Egypt, and great pain shall be in Ethiopia, when the slain shall fall in Egypt, and they shall take away her multitude, and her foundations shall be broken down.
Eze 30:5 Ethiopia, and Libya, and Lydia, and all the mingled people, and Chub, and the men of the land that is in league, shall fall with them by the sword.
Eze 30:6 Thus saith the LORD; They also that uphold Egypt shall fall; and the pride of her power shall come down: from the tower of Syene shall they fall in it by the sword, saith the Lord GOD.
Eze 30:7 And they shall be desolate in the midst of the countries that are desolate, and her cities shall be in the midst of the cities that are wasted.
Eze 30:8 And they shall know that I am the LORD, when I have set a fire in Egypt, and when all her helpers shall be destroyed.
Eze 30:9 In that day shall messengers go forth from me in ships to make the careless Ethiopians afraid, and great pain shall come upon them, as in the day of Egypt: for, lo, it cometh.
Eze 30:10 Thus saith the Lord GOD; I will also make the multitude of Egypt to cease by the hand of Nebuchadrezzar king of Babylon.

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