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Where is the Evidence of a Gap in the 70 weeks of Dan 9?

Is there a "gap" in the 70 weeks of Daniel 9"


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I have yet to see a proven 7 year period, where what is prophesied in Daniel and Revelation, took place. No matter which way we look at it, the 69 'weeks' finished when Jesus was crucified.
The 70th'week', of seven years, remains to be fulfilled.
Not the first time that the majority have been wrong!
Who said we are in the majority?
It is futurism that is in the majority, not preterism. ;)

Revelation and the Olivet Disourse proves all of Daniel was fulfilled....

https://www.christianforums.com/threads/daniel-12-and-olivet-discourse-same-event.7277820/
Daniel 12 and Olivet Discourse same event?[poll thread]


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Mathew 24:6

and ye shall be being about/μελλήσετε<3195> yet to hearing of battles and reports of battles;
see, be not troubled, for is binding all these to bebecoming,
but the end <5056> is not yet.

Mark 13:4
'Tell! to us when? these shall be being.
and what? the sign whenever may be being about/μέλλῃ<3195> all these to be being together-finished<4931>?'
[Exact form Luke 21:7, Revelation 10:7]

Luke 21:
7 And they inquire of Him saying 'Teacher! when? then shall these things be being
and what? the sign whenever these may be being about to/μέλλῃ<3195> to happen'
36 be being vigilant then in every season, praying that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these being about/μέλλοντα<3195> to be becoming,
and to stand before the Son of Man.'

This is pretty awesome. The exact form of the greek word #3195 used in Mark 13:4 and Luke 21:7 is used in only 1 verse of Revelation!

Revelation 10:7 [Daniel 12:7]
But in the days of the voice/sound of the seventh Messenger, whenever He may be being about about/μέλλῃ<3195> to be trumpeting, is finished the mystery of the God

as He evangelizes the of Himself bond-slaves and the Prophets
 
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Well, considering the old covenant and old covenant Israel no longer exist, I would say transgressions can no longer be committed against God under the old covenant by old covenant Israel. So yes the transgression is finished and Christ as redeemed those of Old covenant Israel who were in Christ.

Hebrews 9:15 Therefore he is the mediator of a new covenant, so that those who are called may receive the promised eternal inheritance, since a death has occurred that redeems them from the transgressions committed under the first covenant

However, if the first covenant is still in power to this day and old covenant Israel still exists genetically as a group of people, then yes, they are transgressing the law still because they cannot follow it, as the temple no longer stands.



Amen to that!



Or 3rd possibility: your interpretation is wrong.

Or 4th, we are talking about the abrahamic covenant, and not the old covenant,

Israel transgressed before the law was given and before any temple was made, thats why the people who left Egypt except for a few never made it to the promised land.

As for th 70th week, things in it have yet to be fulfilled, so it could not have been fulfilled, interpretation can not over rule reality, no matter who you are
 
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You criticism of my examples make no sense.

Gabriel said 70 'sevens' are determined for 6 things to happen to israel

If I said in 1 year I will build your house, then proceeded to build your house only 1 month out of a year, taking me 12 years to build your house, that would make sense to you?
your not listening

Your trying to use a command (you have 1 year) to complete something

Gabriel issued a prophesy, in 70weeks, these things will be accomplished. And then gave a timeline of events which would occur.

If you look at prophecy, your looking at order of events, in sequential order, from front to back, you can not see the side view,

Imagin looking at a row of mountains, where you see one on top of the other, looking you have no way to determin if or how big the valleys are, you have to look sideways, then you see valleyes that are in between the mountains which couod not be seen, these valleyes are gaps.

Prophesy is the same way, your looking at a sequence of events.

On dan 9 you have 69 weeks until messiah.

After messiah, you have messiah being killed, the people of the prince who is to come destroying the city, thus you already at the least have incerted 4 decades of a valley or gap into the prophecy, which could not be seen by daniel or any of the OT people,

According to them it would appear, after 69 week, messiah gets somehow killed, and immediately city is destroyed.
 
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Or 4th, we are talking about the abrahamic covenant, and not the old covenant,

The Abrahamic covenant doesn't have anything to do with the sanctuary. The sanctuary was not introduced until the Law of moses. Daniel 9 is specifically about the Daniel's people who are facing punishment (70 years of exile) for breaking the law of moses, not the Abrahamic covenant.

Israel transgressed before the law was given and before any temple was made, thats why the people who left Egypt except for a few never made it to the promised land.

the law was given to Israel long before they got to the promise land. it was given shortly after leaving Egypt.

As for th 70th week, things in it have yet to be fulfilled, so it could not have been fulfilled, interpretation can not over rule reality, no matter who you are

Which part of the 70th week has not been fulfilled? All punishment against Israel was to be fulfilled in 70 ad, when Israel was sacked by the romans.

Luke 21:20, 22 When YOU see Jerusalem being surrounded by armies, you will know that its desolation is near. For this is the time of punishment in fulfillment of ALL that has been written

Do you believe the old covenant is still in force?
 
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your not listening

Your trying to use a command (you have 1 year) to complete something

I'm reading what your putting down. But it doesn't make any sense.

A command is me telling you to do something. In my second example there is no command.

Gabriel issued a prophesy, in 70weeks, these things will be accomplished. And then gave a timeline of events which would occur.

Which is like me telling you I will build you a house in 1 year. Then taking 12 years to build your house, as I only work on it for 1 month every year. That's what inserting gaps do to the prophecy.
 
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On a thread I created today, I was looking up the meaning of a greek word online

https://www.christianforums.com/threads/matthew-24-3-together-finish-of-the-age.8078572/

Matthew 24:3
of the Olivet Discourse uses a rather unique greek word #4931, found only in Matthew[5 times] and Hebrews[1 time]..........................

I ran across this interesting site. Has anyone looked at Daniel using the LXX?
In Daniel 9:27, the LXX uses #4930, which is another form of #4931.

http://www.sermonindex.net/modules/articles/index.php?view=article&aid=33955

*snip*

Sunteleia is used much more frequently in the Lxx than in NT.
Study especially the uses (see Lxx uses below) in the apocalyptic or prophetic portions of Daniel (Da 8:19-note, Da 9:25-note, Da 9:26-note, Da 9:27-note, Da 12:4, 6, 7, 13-note).


Sunteleia is clearly an "eschatologically rich" term both the Old and the New Testaments apply to the end of the age.


Sunteleia - 56 verses in the non-apocryphal Septuagint -
Ex 23:16; Deut 11:12; Josh 4:8; Jdg 20:40; 1 Sam 8:3; 20:41; 1 Kgs 6:22, 25; 2 Kgs 13:17, 19; 2 Chr 24:23; Ezra 9:14; Neh 9:31; Esth 4:17; Job 26:10; 30:2;

Ps 59:12f; 119:96;
Jer 4:27; 5:10, 18; 46:28;
Ezek 11:13; 13:13; 20:17; 21:28; 22:12;

Dan 4:28, 31, 34; 8:19; Da 9:25-27; 11:6, 13, 27, 35f, 40, 45; 12:4, 6f, 13;
Amos 1:14; 8:8; 9:5;
Nah 1:3, 8f;
Hab 1:9, 15; 3:19; Zeph 1:18

Dan 9:27
“And he will make a firm covenant with the many for one week, but in the middle of the week he will put a stop to sacrifice and grain offering; and on the wing of abominations will come one who makes desolate, even until a complete destruction (Lxx = at the end of time an end shall be put to the desolation), one that is decreed, is poured out on the one who makes desolate.”


https://studybible.info/LXX_WH/Daniel 9:27

4930. sunteleia soon-tel'-i-ah from 4931; entire completion, i.e. consummation (of a dispensation):--end.


Daniel 27 G2532 CONJ και G1412 V-FAI-3S δυναμωσει G1242 N-ASF διαθηκην G4183 A-DPM πολλοις N-NSF εβδομας G1519 A-NSF μια G2532 CONJ και G1722 PREP εν G3588 T-DSM τω A-DSM ημισει G3588 T-GSF της N-GSF εβδομαδος G142 V-FPI-3S αρθησεται G1473 P-GS μου G2378 N-NSF θυσια G2532 CONJ και N-NSF σπονδη G2532 CONJ και G1909 PREP επι G3588 T-ASN το G2413 A-ASN ιερον G946 N-NSN βδελυγμα G3588 T-GPF των G2050 N-GPF ερημωσεων G2532 CONJ και G2193 PREP εως G4930 N-GSF συντελειας G2540 N-GSM καιρου G4930 N-NSF συντελεια G1325 V-FPI-3S δοθησεται G1909 PREP επι G3588 T-ASF την G2050 N-ASF ερημωσιν
 
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Dan 9 is about daniels people, his city and sanctuary, not about messiah,

Dan 9:25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.

Dan 9:26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.

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The Abrahamic covenant doesn't have anything to do with the sanctuary. The sanctuary was not introduced until the Law of moses. Daniel 9 is specifically about the Daniel's people who are facing punishment (70 years of exile) for breaking the law of moses, not the Abrahamic covenant.



the law was given to Israel long before they got to the promise land. it was given shortly after leaving Egypt.



Which part of the 70th week has not been fulfilled? All punishment against Israel was to be fulfilled in 70 ad, when Israel was sacked by the romans.

Luke 21:20, 22 When YOU see Jerusalem being surrounded by armies, you will know that its desolation is near. For this is the time of punishment in fulfillment of ALL that has been written

Do you believe the old covenant is still in force?

1.if the abrahamic covenant is no longer active, ther is no reason to punish Isreal,
2.when Ireal left, there was no law, yet isreal sinned from the moment she left
3, dan 9 is about daniels people, the city and the sanctuary who were desolate because of her sin, yet she was still in sin, and has continued to be in sin until this very day
4. Gabriel said his people would be given grace fo 70 weeks, at the end of that seventy weeks, she would repent, because eh has ended her sin.
5. There has been no obomination which makes the temple desolate, there is ongoing wars until even this day, no one has confirmed a covenant for one week with many and broken his own covenant in the middle of the week. And finally, christ has not teturned as promised to put an end to that final gentile beast as jesus promised in matt 24.

Luke 21 speaks of jerusalems desolation, that is not the same as a temple, more specifically holy place, being made desolate by an idol or unclean thing (the abomination spoken of by Gabriel, and jesus himself in Matt 24, which jesis said we would SEE it STANDING in the HOLY PLACE.

Luke 21 did not speak of this. 2 totally different events
 
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I'm reading what your putting down. But it doesn't make any sense.

A command is me telling you to do something. In my second example there is no command.



Which is like me telling you I will build you a house in 1 year. Then taking 12 years to build your house, as I only work on it for 1 month every year. That's what inserting gaps do to the prophecy.
It still does not fit, you may not get the house built then you do not know if you can do ot

Gabriel is saying once isreal is allowed to return to the city and rebuilt it, god will show them grace and allow them to live ther for 70 weeks, even though they are in sin,

Messiah the prince is the last thing in sequence we are given, the rest was part of the mystery, which was hidden.

No one knew of two commings, and god was not going to give it away, take dan 9 with all prophesy, and you will see it, jesus mentiond it, and told them what would happen, he afirms the gap, he does not deny it when he daid it was hidden from you the day he entered jerusalem, he admitted a break in time,
 
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1.if the abrahamic covenant is no longer active, ther is no reason to punish Isreal,

was the sanctuary a part of the Abrahamic covenant or the mosaic covenant?

when Ireal left, there was no law, yet isreal sinned from the moment she left

Israel may have sinned prior to the giving of the mosaic law, but did Israel face punishment for their sins prior to the giving of the mosaic law?

3, dan 9 is about daniels people, the city and the sanctuary who were desolate because of her sin, yet she was still in sin, and has continued to be in sin until this very day

She, old covenant Israel, doesn't exist anymore.

4. Gabriel said his people would be given grace fo 70 weeks, at the end of that seventy weeks, she would repent, because eh has ended her sin.

Where does Gabriel say Israel is given grace for 70 weeks?

5. There has been no obomination which makes the temple desolate, there is ongoing wars until even this day, no one has confirmed a covenant for one week with many and broken his own covenant in the middle of the week. And finally, christ has not teturned as promised to put an end to that final gentile beast as jesus promised in matt 24.
Luke 21 speaks of jerusalems desolation, that is not the same as a temple, more specifically holy place, being made desolate by an idol or unclean thing (the abomination spoken of by Gabriel, and jesus himself in Matt 24, which jesis said we would SEE it STANDING in the HOLY PLACE.

Wars of the Jews 6.6.1
AND now the Romans, upon the flight of the seditious into the city, and upon the burning of the holy house itself, and of all the buildings round about it, brought their ensigns to the temple. and set them over against its eastern gate; and there did they offer sacrifices to them, and there did they make Titus imperator

Even prior temples destruction by the romans, The zealots factions waged war inside the temple area, prophaning the temple by slaughtering each other in it, eating the food and drinking the wine, and melting down the vessels.

Luke 21 did not speak of this. 2 totally different events

That is your opinion, which your are entitled to. but most scholars state the olivet discourse of matthew, mark, and luke are all about the same event.
 
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The word #h1285 for covenant is used only in 2 chapters of Daniel, 9 and 11.

Let's take another look at the Jeremiah 31/Hebrews 8 Covenant.

https://www.christianforums.com/threads/new-covenant-of-jeremiah-31-hebrew-8.7326950/
New Covenant of Jeremiah 31 Hebrew 8


[There are some that believe Jesus came to "renew" the Covenant with Israel and Judah instead of making it brand new. I have a thread on that]


Jeremiah 31:
31 'Behold! days are coming' a declaration of Yahweh, 'and I-cut make<03772 karath>, with the house of Yisra'el and with the house of Y@huwdah, a Covenant<1285>, New-one<2319>

32 Not as-Covenant<1285> which I cut/made<03772 karath> with their fathers in day of to hold-fast of Me in-hand-of them, to-bring-forth of them from land of Egypt
which they-broke that Covenant<1285>-of-Me and-I, I-possessed in them', declaration-of Yahweh.

https://www.christianforums.com/thr...-new-or-renewed-covenant-with-israel.7525782/

Did Christ come to establish a New or Renewed Covenant with Israel?

Hebrews 8:
8 "For faulting to-them, He is saying:, `Behold! days are coming, is saying Lord,
and I shall-be-together-finishing<4931> upon the house of Israel, and upon the house of Judah a Covenant/diaqhkhn <1242>, New/kainhn <2537>"

9 Not according-as the Covenant/diaqhkhn <1242> which I make to their fathers in day of on-getting of Me the hand of them, to be leading them out of land of Egypt,
that they not remain in the Covenant/diaqhkh <1242> of Me, and I, I uncare of them, is saying Lord.
 
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was the sanctuary a part of the Abrahamic covenant or the mosaic covenant?

Niether it was part of the davidic covenant. If you remember, david wanted to build a house, and God said no,


Israel may have sinned prior to the giving of the mosaic law, but did Israel face punishment for their sins prior to the giving of the mosaic law?

Isreal was showed grace for many generations even after the law. Does that mean he failed before the law?

Sin is sin, unless you think it was ok to sin before the law? Idolotry was still a sin.



She, old covenant Israel, doesn't exist anymore.

Says who? You? God promised there would always be a remnant, paul admitted, there will always be a remnant, if there is a remnant, then isreal still exists.

God even promised while they were being punished, he would never let them vanish from the earth, not because of them, ut because of his promise to the fathers.



Where does Gabriel say Israel is given grace for 70 weeks?

So if Isreal is allowed to live in jerusalem while still in sin, is this not grace?




Wars of the Jews 6.6.1
AND now the Romans, upon the flight of the seditious into the city, and upon the burning of the holy house itself, and of all the buildings round about it, brought their ensigns to the temple. and set them over against its eastern gate; and there did they offer sacrifices to them, and there did they make Titus imperator

Even prior temples destruction by the romans, The zealots factions waged war inside the temple area, prophaning the temple by slaughtering each other in it, eating the food and drinking the wine, and melting down the vessels.

This event is the event spoken of first the people of the prince will destroy the city and sanctuary and leave it desolate. THEN while it is desolate. The war desolations are spoken of.

Again, jesus mentioned this in matt 24,there will be wars and rumors of wars, nation will rise against nation, and kingsom against kingdom,

After these events, Jesus said there would be the abomination of desolation.

That is your opinion, which your are entitled to. but most scholars state the olivet discourse of matthew, mark, and luke are all about the same event.
Well i can just go by what the word says, and take defenitions by whatnthey say,

Most scholars? You mean the ones who agree with you? I actually never heard anyone claim they were the same until a few days agi in here, and i have read many scholars. And many commentators from both sides,
 
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Niether it was part of the davidic covenant. If you remember, david wanted to build a house, and God said no,
Israel may have sinned prior to the giving of the mosaic law, but did Israel face punishment for their sins prior to the giving of the mosaic law?[/quote]

Isreal was showed grace for many generations even after the law. Does that mean he failed before the law?

Sin is sin, unless you think it was ok to sin before the law? Idolotry was still a sin.[/QUOTE]EG.
How much of Daniel, the Olivet Discourse and Revelation do you view as fulfilled on Israel?
 
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Keras said:
I have yet to see a proven 7 year period, where what is prophesied in Daniel and Revelation, took place. No matter which way we look at it, the 69 'weeks' finished when Jesus was crucified.
The 70th'week', of seven years, remains to be fulfilled.
I believe it's been posted before, so just because you reject it doesn't mean it's not been shown (or that it's not true). IOW.....your opinion doesn't change the support or the reality.

Jesus died "in the midst [or middle, as some versions use] of the 70th week" as Scripture states....here:

Daniel 9:27 ~ And he will confirm a covenant with many for one week, but in the middle of the week he will put an end to sacrifice and offering.

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Niether it was part of the davidic covenant. If you remember, david wanted to build a house, and God said no,

the sanctuary was the tabernacle of moses.
Leviticus 12:4 Then she shall continue for thirty-three days in the blood of her purifying. She shall not touch anything holy, nor come into the sanctuary, until the days of her purifying are completed.

Isreal was showed grace for many generations even after the law. Does that mean he failed before the law?

is the mosaic covenant still in force today?
 
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From the 1599 Geneva Bible, which is the Bible the Pilgrims brought to America

Dan 9:27 And he shal confirme the couenant with many for one weeke: and in the middes of the weeke he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the ouerspreading of the abominations, he shall make it desolate, euen vntill the consummation determined shalbe powred vpon the desolate.


Daniel 9:27
And he (a) shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to (b) cease, (c) and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make [it] desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

(a) By the preaching of the Gospel he affirmed his promise, first to the Jews, and after to the Gentiles.

(b) Christ accomplished this by his death and resurrection.

(c) Meaning that Jerusalem and the sanctuary would be utterly destroyed because of their rebellion against God, and their idolatry: or as some read, that the plague will be so great, that they will all be astonished at them.

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A, B, and C, all have to be fulfilled during the 70th week though. Impossible per your interpretation unless you place a 40 year gap somewhere around the midst of the week. Yet you are arguing for no gaps, then turn right around and contradict that by claiming C is meaning 70 AD. I realize you apparently don't conclude C is also fulfilled during the 70th week. But that's beside the point. C is also fulfilled during the 70th week, and until you acknowledge and admit that, in the meantime all you are doing is twisting this Scripture in order to seemingly make it work with your view of this passage. No way did C occur 3.5 years after Christ's death and resurrection. But it would have had to in order for your interpretation to work, since C also is fulfilled during the 70th week. After the 70th week is not during the 70th week. But I'm pretty sure you at least already know that.
 
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A, B, and C, all have to be fulfilled during the 70th week though. Impossible per your interpretation unless you place a 40 year gap somewhere around the midst of the week. Yet you are arguing for no gaps, then turn right around and contradict that by claiming C is meaning 70 AD. I realize you apparently don't conclude C is also fulfilled during the 70th week. But that's beside the point. C is also fulfilled during the 70th week, and until you acknowledge and admit that, in the meantime all you are doing is twisting this Scripture in order to seemingly make it work with your view of this passage. No way did C occur 3.5 years after Christ's death and resurrection. But it would have had to in order for your interpretation to work, since C also is fulfilled during the 70th week. After the 70th week is not during the 70th week. But I'm pretty sure you at least already know that.

Do you deny that Daniel 9:24 is found fulfilled by Christ during the first century, in Hebrews 10:16-18, and Acts of the Apostles 10:38?

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It is a new Covenant, not according to the one God made when 'he took them by the hand out of Egypt', i.e. The Sinai Covenant, aka the Horeb Covenant.

Some Messianic Jews say it is the Moab covenant 'renewed'.....but that is incorrect I think. Obviously the blood of the covenant is entirely a new work.

The new covenant is ratified by baptism into Christ, so the Moab covenant serves really as the run-off channel for those who reject the New Covenant. Complex stuff, maybe

The Moab Covenant was to establish Israel as the Church, so therefore it is really an extension of the Abrahamic Covenant and promises

Deuteronomy 29:12 That thou shouldest enter into covenant with the Lord thy God, and into his oath, which the Lord thy God maketh with thee this day:13 That he may establish thee to day for a people unto himself, and that he may be unto thee a God, as he hath said unto thee, and as he hath sworn unto thy fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob.

But the promise was Christ and the Kingdom of God, and Christ ushered in a new covenant, so I personally see the new covenant as wholly new, not renewed.....open to debate really

The word #h1285 for covenant is used only in 2 chapters of Daniel, 9 and 11.

Let's take another look at the Jeremiah 31/Hebrews 8 Covenant.
[There are some that believe Jesus came to "renew" the Covenant with Israel and Judah instead of making it brand new. I have a thread on that]


Jeremiah 31:
31 'Behold! days are coming' a declaration of Yahweh, 'and I-cut make<03772 karath>, with the house of Yisra'el and with the house of Y@huwdah, a Covenant<1285>, New-one<2319>

32 Not as-Covenant<1285> which I cut/made<03772 karath> with their fathers in day of to hold-fast of Me in-hand-of them, to-bring-forth of them from land of Egypt
which they-broke that Covenant<1285>-of-Me and-I, I-possessed in them', declaration-of Yahweh.

https://www.christianforums.com/thr...-new-or-renewed-covenant-with-israel.7525782/

Did Christ come to establish a New or Renewed Covenant with Israel?

Hebrews 8:
8 "For faulting to-them, He is saying:, `Behold! days are coming, is saying Lord,
and I shall-be-together-finishing<4931> upon the house of Israel, and upon the house of Judah a Covenant/diaqhkhn <1242>, New/kainhn <2537>"

9 Not according-as the Covenant/diaqhkhn <1242> which I make to their fathers in day of on-getting of Me the hand of them, to be leading them out of land of Egypt,
that they not remain in the Covenant/diaqhkh <1242> of Me, and I, I uncare of them, is saying Lord.
 
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It's January 1 and your boss tells you "you have 3 weeks to finish a project"
Does this mean you finish the project by January 21? Or does that mean you do 1 week of the project January 1-7, followed by a gap, then the second week of the project February 1-7, followed by a gap, then the 3rd week of the project March 1-7, effectively taking you 2 months and a week to finish the project?

If you want me to build you a house, then ask how long it will take. I respond 1 year. I then proceed to work on the house only 1 month every year, with an 11 month gap in between each working month for total of 12 years. How long did it take me to build your house?


You make a good point here, but even so, if the fulfilling of the 70 weeks involve 2 comings in order to fulfill everything, that makes your point here moot.


Daniel never lived to see the 2nd temple. Why would the 2nd temple be so important to Daniel then? Why should he care that that temple gets built then destroyed? And when he rises from the dead at the end of this age, that 2nd temple still isn't going to mean anything to him. Once it was destroyed it was obviously gone for good.
 
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How much of Daniel, the Olivet Discourse and Revelation do you view as fulfilled on Israel?
Sorry, i screwed up in my formatting, i hope i read your question right,

70 ad is as far as it got. The destruction of city and sanctuary,
 
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