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I disagree, Riberra, with your view of Gen. 1:2. It simply states God is working with some sort of chaos, which maybe he himself first created in order to work from there, or something that preexisted, fo5r an unknown reason. The idea of a previous earth, then, is strictly ruled out. At no point does the Bible ever speak of a previous earth, to begin with.
He was a murderer from the beginning = CAIN
There is another verse saying that they are Jebusites desendant of the Kenites....which relate them as being Cain's decendants....at least one of the wife of the sons of Noah was a Kenite.
I disagree, Riberra, with your view of Gen. 1:2. It simply states God is working with some sort of chaos, which maybe he himself first created in order to work from there, or something that preexisted, fo5r an unknown reason. The idea of a previous earth, then, is strictly ruled out. At no point does the Bible ever speak of a previous earth, to begin with.
That is Cain who killed Abel in the Garden of Eden (he was a murderer from the beginning) not Satan.
I made a typo,But the fact remain that this is Cain who Killed Abel, not Satan as you claim.So the sentence -he was a murderer from the beginning - mentionned in John 8:44 refers to Cain ...What Bible are you reading? Cain killed Abel after Adam and Eve got escorted out of the garden. Did Cain and Able sneak past the angel guarding the entrance to the garden?
... from the link:Seriously? My post showed how the account of the deception of Eve had nothing to do with Satan sexually seducing Eve...and you offer a cut and paste job?
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Do you notice that your two examples Isaiah 37:10 and Jer 4:10 use the Word DECEIVED NOT THE WORD BEGUILED.Isaiah 37:10 “Thus shall you speak to Hezekiah king of Judah: ‘Do not let your God in whom you trust deceive you by promising that Jerusalem will not be given into the hand of the king of Assyria.
Perhaps we should translate that same word as sexually seduced?
Jer 4:10 also uses the word.....Then I said, “Ah, Lord GOD, surely you have utterly deceived this people and Jerusalem, saying, ‘It shall be well with you,’ whereas the sword has reached their very life.”
Should we also change it to sexually seduced?
I made a typo,But the fact remain that this is Cain who Killed Abel, not Satan as you claim.So the sentence -he was a murderer from the beginning - mentionned in John 8:44 refers to Cain ...
John 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks out of his own character, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
Everything you have offered are non validated argument.[He was a murderer from the beginning = Satan......if you actually read the verse you would clearly see that. No where does it even mention Cain.
Riberra
You lost.
Give it up.
Hi!Hi,
I am not in this conversation. This is between you two.
However, if what we call the surface of the earth today, was with no valleys and no mountains, when the earth like that was formless and void, possibly meaning no land was yet above the more than mile thick water that would today cover such a planar or flattened earth, then back then no light would hit the surface as light pretty much starts to be zero at about 200 feet with our eyes.
Plausibly, a flat earth surface, with water above it, would satisfy, dark, formless and void.
Tectonic plate activity, made the mountains and the valleys, both in the ocean and out of it.
LOVE,
Can you give the name of someone who have been killed by Satan mentionned in the Bible ?
He has no biblical basis for such things.What Bible are you reading? Cain killed Abel after Adam and Eve got escorted out of the garden. Did Cain and Able sneak past the angel guarding the entrance to the garden?
That is totally false.He was a murderer from the beginning = CAIN
There is another verse saying that they are Jebusites desendant of the Kenites....which relate them as being Cain's decendants....at least one of the wife of the sons of Noah was a Kenite.
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What Bible are you reading? Cain killed Abel after Adam and Eve got escorted out of the garden. Did Cain and Able sneak past the angel guarding the entrance to the garden?
I have made a mistake when I said that Cain have killed Abel in the Garden of Eden.He has no biblical basis for such things.
He was a murderer from the beginning = CAIN
There is another verse saying that they are Jebusites desendant of the Kenites....which relate them as being Cain's decendants....at least one of the wife of the sons of Noah was a Kenite.
Can you explain how the Kenites which are the descendants of Cain have survived the Flood? The Kenites are mentionned AFTER the Flood?.... Good swimmers maybe.That is totally false.
The history of the Patriarchs as recorded in the Real Book of Jasher -not the pseudo Jashers that are out there and proven false, but the real Book of the Upright that correlates with Torah totally, says this:
34 In his five hundred and ninety-fifth year Noah commenced to make the ark, and he made the ark in five years, as the Lord had commanded.
chapter 5:35
Then Noah took the three daughters of Eliakim, son of Methuselah, for wives for his sons, as the Lord had commanded Noah.
only Enoch's descendants, through Methuselah, son of Enoch, the seventh from Adam, through Seth, survived the flood in the Ark.
Noah's wife was the daughter of Enoch, also:
13 And Noah was a just man, he was perfect in his generation, and the Lord chose him to raise up seed from his seed upon the face of the earth.
14 And the Lord said unto Noah, Take unto thee a wife, and beget children, for I have seen thee righteous before me in this generation.
15 And thou shalt raise up seed, and thy children with thee, in the midst of the earth; and Noah went and took a wife, and he chose Naamah/Naomi, the daughter of Enoch, and she was five hundred and eighty years old.
16 And Noah was four hundred and ninety-eight years old, when he took Naamah for a wife.
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