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As we are talking about Genesis 1 this implies that the Bible is the word of men. I agree.Who said men are all knowing?
OT was a whole before Jesus appearance. You inserted Jesus in Genesis 1, not me. There are enough characters without a story in OT. But you have story without a character and you insert Jesus, as if it is the only option. And you said you read it literally. If you ask a Jew living before the time of Jesus will he also insert Jesus in that gap?One should take the book as a whole. Better to be honest.
I already did it. 459Prove it?
Says....who??
I was talking about all relevant to us knowledge.Generally when I have heard 'gap' it refers to a time gap in creation week allowing for old ages and evolution. Since you are playing with words here, and want gap to mean anything less than being all knowing...then man is full of gaps. God never meant to provide all knowing knowledge in the verse you are harping on.
No, I didnt miss it. It just isnt the sense in which I was using the word. I was pointing out how religions use fear and anxiety to promote compliance with their teachings. You quoted Proverbs 1:7. If you read the rest of that chapter, you will see that the fear being promoted is not awe, but anxiety. Heres how it ends.Did you miss #3 in that link?
Notice how it warns of desolation, destruction, distress, anguish and slaying if you dont follow the teachings of the Christian religion. Notice how the last line offers safety and protection from fear if people believe what Christianity tells them. Religions use fear and anxiety to promote compliance with their teachings.Because I have called, and ye refused; I have stretched out my hand, and no man regarded;
But ye have set at nought all my counsel, and would none of my reproof:
I also will laugh at your calamity; I will mock when your fear cometh;
When your fear cometh as desolation, and your destruction cometh as a whirlwind; when distress and anguish cometh upon you.
Then shall they call upon me, but I will not answer; they shall seek me early, but they shall not find me:
For that they hated knowledge, and did not choose the fear of the LORD:
They would none of my counsel: they despised all my reproof.
Therefore shall they eat of the fruit of their own way, and be filled with their own devices.
For the turning away of the simple shall slay them, and the prosperity of fools shall destroy them.
But whoso hearkeneth unto me shall dwell safely, and shall be quiet from fear of evil.
You said there wereAs we are talking about Genesis 1 this implies that the Bible is the word of men. I agree.
OT was a whole before Jesus appearance. You inserted Jesus in Genesis 1, not me. There are enough characters without a story in OT. But you have story without a character and you insert Jesus, as if it is the only option. And you said you read it literally. If you ask a Jew living before the time of Jesus will he also insert Jesus in that gap?
Childish. Never heard such a lame so called point.I already did it. 459
Read what God said marked with green and blue and what He did marked with green only.
Genesis (1:26-27) for those who didn't pay attention.
Ge 1:26 -And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. Doesn't look all the "omitted" to me!I was talking about all relevant to us knowledge.
Do you say that God omitted to tell us we were created in His likeness, because it was irrelevant?
He did. You thinking it all had to be in the same time, and verse is what threw you.Do you say that God didn't tell us that Jesus was there (as you seem to think), because it was also irrelevant?
Psalm 14:1a The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.
Wrong.
What they fail to understand is that God did it, therefore get busy researching it.
Wrong again.
God lambasted Job for not having a proper understanding of creation.
Read His questions to Job, virtually every question put to him is about creation.
What needs to be know is that "God did it" is the beginning of proper research.
Proverbs 1:7 ¶ The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.
(Notice that atheists will despise this wisdom and instruction.)
And if there is no sun, why use sunscreen?
If there were no sun, there would be no sunscreen.
There's probably no gods, so we don't need godscreen.
Present stateism is exactly...religion.Religion... It's EXACTLY like this.
Confused about the hes and shes?This would be true - if God existed. We've no evidence that She does.
She said she's an atheist, remember?Confused about the hes and shes?
Hmm I guess that couldn't help.She said she's an atheist, remember?
I said "all relevant knowledge", not "all knowledge". Can you read?You said there were
" knowledge gaps in Genesis 1".
No verse is meant to contain all knowledge. That is ridiculous.
It is in plural form, but it seems you put Jesus in that plural. It is you, not the Bible. Where is the verse that tells us Jesus was present during the creation? Maybe you are a prophet, aren't you?Even the early Hebrew used the plural form of the word. The details of who it was came later, regardless of what a Jew or anyone else might think. The gap is mostly in your thinking.
Putting labels will not dismiss a point.Childish. Never heard such a lame so called point.
Indeed, now find the confirmation of it in the next verse. As you know, everything claimed by God must be confirmed, otherwise the book could be written by mortal men.Ge 1:26 -And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. Doesn't look all the "omitted" to me!
This is because anyone will be able to write a book that will "confirm" OT and then claim Godness. The proper way to prevent this happening is to mention Jesus in Genesis 1. It is not that much to add.He did. You thinking it all had to be in the same time, and verse is what threw you.
Confused about the hes and shes?
You have to ask a question like that, when God is called "Father", "He", "Him" and "His" all throughout the Scriptures?Please show me where this is in your Holy Handbook.
You have to ask a question like that, when God is called "Father", "He", "Him" and "His" all throughout the Scriptures?
This is an excellent example of how you guys try so hard not to understand, you make yourselves look silly.
Anyone know what causes gravity? Exactly? How about the strong or weak nuclear forces? How about atomic spin? Where do the forces in our universe, or part of it, come from? How did they get there, according to science? Why must they be as they are?
For Christians, the answer is obvious. God created it, and set it up that way. Intelligently designed, and set in motion.
Science knows somewhat about how physical laws work, but not what they are!
This is one reason we may not assume our laws will be here till the universe dies from them. Or that they were here at creation.
Gravitons R.I.P.
So, laws here in our physical world, and environs are set up for here and now. Not forever.
Confused about the hes and shes?
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