You have a science claim, it needs to be supported. Period. The basis for anti bible creation claims are all present state based. It cannot be proven to have existed. Your claim rides on it.
The constant state of our forces is already proven by their having been the same since their discovery, however, they don't NEED to be proven because their constant state is the default.
Just like knowing we'll see the sun again tomorrow. A claim that the sun will explode tomorrow would have to be proven -- the claim that we'll most likely see it again tomorrow does not.
There is only evidence for the laws of nature always having been the same. There is no evidence, whatsoever, that they have ever been different. This is why if you have a hypothesis that they were ever different, you need evidence to support it.
Yes, I am positive that I was using the word "positive" as the antonym of "Negative" and not the synonym of "sure". Although, I am positive that positive claims carry the burden of proof. (Note the two uses of the word "positive", and welcome to the English language)
Time happens to be directly on topic here. You see we are asking what you know of the basics. Like time. Like gravity. Like the weak force, or etc. If I can guide the wayward conversation back towards the topic, it is a good thing.
We could squeeze time into the topic of the thread, but when I used the word time, it was not the subject of the sentence I used. Do we really need to start another thread so we can educate you on the English language and sentence structure?
No idea, all you did is replace what I said with blah blahs.
Because, as stated directly above, your bringing up time was completely irrelevant to the direction of the conversation.
There is no unavoidable truth that says a present state existed at creation, or will exist in heaven. None. Not even in the far away universe.
Far away in the universe, say millions of light years away (and therefore millions of years ago), we see gravity in our universe behaving exactly as it does now here on earth. This is our simplest and most immediate evidence that gravity has never changed, and one of many ways it can be proven.
You're claiming a difference in this -- that gravity was not always the same.
You're making the positive claim which is contrary to existing evidence, therefore, you carry the burden of proof.
Regardless of whether you understand how burden of proof works, you have still failed to present any evidence for your case whatsoever. If you want your garbage to be taught in a science class, your ideas must be subjected to the same scrutiny that everyone else's ideas are subjected to -- and in the field of science, that means having evidence.
Show us evidence.
I was thinking today how the devil's main trait is deception. How like so called science. It really looks like Satan is the power behind the deceptions of science so called.
Creating a universe to appear, in every way, over 14 billion years old, but then telling everyone it's only a few thousand years old is quite deceptive, don't you think?
