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So I'm talking about being drawn by God to salvation.
Can you find an example in the N.T. where someone has been drawn to Christ for salvation by the Father and rejected that salvation ?
You can resist God's precepts all day. But only if He decreed it.Decretive and Preceptive. I see.
How many WILLS does God have, in Calvinism, and which can be resisted?
What do you mean by "prompt".
This sounds mildly Calvinistic to me.
The elect never choose against their will.
No one ever says yes to Jesus on their own, it is evidence that the Spirit has been working.
Either that or people are good enough and spiritually discerning enough to say yes on their own
To demonstrate if God is working in us to will and to do according to His good pleasure.But why would one be WARNED not to lose what he never had to begin with, and told to "make their calling and election sure" if synergism is not a reality?
We are God's enemies by nature. Man had said in his heart 'there is no God.'Does a person have to be good enough or spiritually discerning enough to say "yes" to unconditional love and a free gift of eternal life, Romans 6:23?
The Gospel is that no one can be good enough to deserve, or earn, anything from God - he gives out of his grace, mercy and love. Christ died for sinners, Romans 5:8 - for those who were without God, far from God and enemies of God.
What is the point of Paul's words in Romans 8:35-39 if those who have the Spirit can be persuaded to walk away? The reason Paul mentions those things is because they are temptations to abandon the faith. If those things cause us to be separated from the love of God, then Paul was delusional when he wrote that.Saul of Tarsus was kicking against the goads, he had been RESISTING...
No one can snatch anyone out of Jesus' hand, no one powerful enough to do so, but a person can walk away from being a believer.
Or Jesus can walk away from them, saying "I know ye not from whence ye are", not always saying "I never knew you"
Neither does a coach force anyone to do anything. My point is that Jesus can take even the persecuters of His people and turn them into His Apostles. Only God can do that.It's scripture. And that is silly. Who told you that? Jesus isn't forcing anyone to remain in him, that isn't love.
But they rebelled And grieved His Holy Spirit; Therefore He turned Himself to become their enemy, He fought against them.To quote you.."The verse says nothing about whether we can refuse the drawing or not." why would you mention it? Find a scripture that says one can refuse God's will.
For the record, the word "draw" in John 6:44 literally means to drag...except the drawing is done by God's inward power on the individual. Here's a link on that:
Genesis 1:1 (NASB)
All this says is they weren't of us when they went out, not that they never were.The counter would Be what John says of those who leave Christ in 1 John 2:19:
19 They went out from us, but they were not really of us; for if they had been of us, they would have remained with us; but they went out, so that it would be shown that they all are not of us.
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