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canehdianhotstuff

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These two together pretty much sum the situation up. Jerks get the girls because they pursue them, and let them know in no uncertain way that they want to be with the girl. I've never personally dated a jerk, so I'm not certain about what these girls are thinking - but I'd bet that it has something to do with the nice guy friends being friendly in a very non-erotic way, and the resulting idea that they either aren't interested, or would make a boring partner even if they were interested.

If I had to pursue a guy to gain his friendship - that's alright as friends, but I would not consider a relationship with him unless he said/did something very obvious, in the "I really like you - in a romantic kind of way" *gives me rose* kind of way.

Bad guys tend to be conceited enough for that not to be a problem.


Pretty much true, which is probably why I am single, I am just too nice to make that first move if it makes any sense. I would prefer to be kinda like a mutual move lol. I know Im crazy right...but like for example 2 of you are watching a movie and you just slowly start to cuddle cause each of you like the other but neither could really say it...maybe I just like signs in general...and YES, I do pick up on them.
 
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LOL...You guys make me think of my best friend (who was a guy) he must have been thinking the same thing.

But do us a favor...please tell us when you think a guy (we are dating) may be a jerk. My best friend never told me...he said he didn't think I would listen. I would have...he always had the best for me at heart. And it would have saved me a lot of heartache.

:amen:

like, a quadrillion respect points. srsly, dudes.
 
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:amen:

like, a quadrillion respect points. srsly, dudes.


I do that all the time! You know what answers I get? "It's my choice"; "You don't know him like I do"; "We are soulmates"; "He is good, you just don't see it"; "But he said he loves me"

So I usually give up and let them find out the hard way. Unfortunately this realization is sometimes after she gets pregnant and the guy runs off, or sometimes the guy gets violent and tries to kill her.

Some people just don't listen. :doh:
 
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Dude, pick better female friends...I mean...eww.

heh, he was pretty much describing the type of girl friends I seem to have as well :(

Anyways, I've never had a problem in trying to ask out a good friend on a serious date and try to elevate the relationship. I just always get a response that's something like, "you're too good of a friend and I don't want to jeopardize that friendship by dating you." Then they say that they wish they could find a man who wouldn't just be their boyfriend, but also their best friend... Like I said, I'll never understand the logic!

And Sweetlamb... I can't remember how the quote goes exactly but it's something like: The only man who will be worth your tears is the one who won't make you cry.

One thing I've noticed about a majority of guys is that they seem to fall into 3 categories when trying to date women. They are either bad and deceiving on purpose and obviously, usually trying for only casual dating. or they are preteneding to be nice, well-mannered guys, although that's not their real personality. Or they are geniunely trying to be a good man and do right by women.

That third kind is more rare then you would think. Of course none of us are perfect, all men will let ya down in one way or another here or there, usually with just small things. But every now and then you'll find a guy who fits that middle category, comes off sweet as sugar and then bites you in the long run. It's really sad, but it's reality :(
 
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What about those good guys who hurt us, huh what about them?
The flipside happens to us guys. Good girls hurting us guys.

That's why now, I'm just at the point that I just want a good woman that is good for me. How that is define, I'll leave it for her to define when/if I find her. :)
 
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heh, he was pretty much describing the type of girl friends I seem to have as well :(

Anyways, I've never had a problem in trying to ask out a good friend on a serious date and try to elevate the relationship. I just always get a response that's something like, "you're too good of a friend and I don't want to jeopardize that friendship by dating you." Then they say that they wish they could find a man who wouldn't just be their boyfriend, but also their best friend... Like I said, I'll never understand the logic!

And Sweetlamb... I can't remember how the quote goes exactly but it's something like: The only man who will be worth your tears is the one who won't make you cry.

One thing I've noticed about a majority of guys is that they seem to fall into 3 categories when trying to date women. They are either bad and deceiving on purpose and obviously, usually trying for only casual dating. or they are preteneding to be nice, well-mannered guys, although that's not their real personality. Or they are geniunely trying to be a good man and do right by women.

That third kind is more rare then you would think. Of course none of us are perfect, all men will let ya down in one way or another here or there, usually with just small things. But every now and then you'll find a guy who fits that middle category, comes off sweet as sugar and then bites you in the long run. It's really sad, but it's reality :(

Guilty. :( I'm sorry...I've done that to guy friends. In honesty, I just didn't have that type of attraction. I thought they were good looking and I knew they were fun and I got along with them, but to see them beyond a "brother" figure...just wasn't happening. Again, I'm sorry, because I am one of those heartbreakers and I feel bad about it.
 
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Pretty much true, which is probably why I am single, I am just too nice to make that first move if it makes any sense. I would prefer to be kinda like a mutual move lol. I know Im crazy right...but like for example 2 of you are watching a movie and you just slowly start to cuddle cause each of you like the other but neither could really say it...maybe I just like signs in general...and YES, I do pick up on them.
Well, I suppose if the girl is also mildly telepathic, that might work... but perhaps I'm just more than averagely dense.

But I don't understand the bolded part. It's not particularly nice to confuse non-empathic girls with signals that just go over their heads. Unless you're purposefully screening for a really observant woman - in which case that'd make sense. It's kind of like using postmodern irony on some sweet, naive lass who'd never get it - it's got to be ignorance, maliciousness, or some kind of test.
 
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alright, i am not going through this whole thread but...

There are a ton of great guys on this site... some i have had the pleasure to get to know and others I have not but I have seen their posts. If you need me to make you a list, i can.

but there are plenty, and i have even found myself interested in a couple.

They are all different, but all good.

any woman would be lucky to have one on her arm.
 
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Well, I suppose if the girl is also mildly telepathic, that might work... but perhaps I'm just more than averagely dense.

But I don't understand the bolded part. It's not particularly nice to confuse non-empathic girls with signals that just go over their heads. Unless you're purposefully screening for a really observant woman - in which case that'd make sense. It's kind of like using postmodern irony on some sweet, naive lass who'd never get it - it's got to be ignorance, maliciousness, or some kind of test.

Not entirely sure now that I think about it, I think Im scared I might offend her in some way if I make a move on her without picking up a signal that she does like me, which obviously doesnt happen often, cause Im still single lol.
 
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Not entirely sure now that I think about it, I think Im scared I might offend her in some way if I make a move on her without picking up a signal that she does like me, which obviously doesnt happen often, cause Im still single lol.

Aww...
 
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alright, i am not going through this whole thread but...

There are a ton of great guys on this site... some i have had the pleasure to get to know and others I have not but I have seen their posts. If you need me to make you a list, i can.

but there are plenty, and i have even found myself interested in a couple.

They are all different, but all good.

any woman would be lucky to have one on her arm.

Just to throw this out there, I've only been around for like a week and I can already tell there are many very very great women on this site as well! I'm looking forward to getting to know all of you sweet, beautiful ladies (and the men too) better, it's really been awesome so far :) You all are very welcoming and so many of you really reflect a lot of Christ-like things and I enjoy that!
 
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