Where are the current ripples from Noah's Flood?

[AV1611VET]

Of course they think that.

Yup.

The story is pointless otherwise.

Again, yup.

That got Noah into the "Hall of Faith" chapter.

Hebrews 11:7 By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith.

Jesus also used it to exemplify His second coming:

Matthew 24:37 But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

I'm waiting to learn what is meant by “glorification”.

From Webster's 1828 dictionary:

The act of giving glory or of ascribing honors to.

 

[CoreyD]

No, I don't think we are. I am trying to join @dlamberth 's discussion of the dating of of a few samples of organic material used to pin down the Missoula Floods at the end of the last glacial period which occurred 10-15,000 years ago. On the other hand you seem to be interested in nothing but flinging mud (almost all of it irrelevant mud) at the concept of radiocarbon dating for no other apparent reason that you don't like the time frame it gives.

If you are joining @dlamberth's discussion of the dating of of a few samples of organic material used to pin down the Missoula Floods at the end of the last glacial period which occurred 10-15,000 years ago, that is okay, but I took everything she said into consideration, which includes carbon 14 dating, and if that is not relevant, then I don't know what we are discussing.

I don't want to accuse you of being blindsided, but I am including the fact that radiocarbon dating, which is used, is not accurate, and misses the mark at times, by thousands of years.
If you deny that, then instead of just making claims, it would be better if you provide a reference or two, to support your claims.

I don't pay attention to claims.

 

[Hans Blaster]

If you are joining @dlamberth's discussion of the dating of of a few samples of organic material used to pin down the Missoula Floods at the end of the last glacial period which occurred 10-15,000 years ago, that is okay, but I took everything she said into consideration, which includes carbon 14 dating, and if that is not relevant, then I don't know what we are discussing.

I thought I was clear, but let me try again. None of your "complaints" about radiocarbon dating have any impact on the broad dating of the Missoula floods. I hope this clarifies things for you.

I don't want to accuse you of being blindsided, but I am including the fact that radiocarbon dating, which is used, is not accurate, and misses the mark at times, by thousands of years.

You have provided nothing I didn't already know, and frankly some (most actually) of your "demonstrations" are completely irrelevant to the dating of flood deposits from more than 10,000 years ago.

If you deny that, then instead of just making claims, it would be better if you provide a reference or two, to support your claims.

I don't pay attention to claims.

You've made a lot of claims that these "challenges" you have copied and pasted are relevant to the issue at hand (the dating of the Missoula floods), and they just aren't. Nothing you have posted demonstrates in the slightest that you have any understanding of what you are trying to present. A lot of this comes from that it is clear you haven't read or understood many of your links. (The one about statistical methods and dating the Mayan site jumps out on this front.)

 

[Larniavc]

From four men , you get four races.
This ripples throughout the bloodlines.
Coincidence? Hardly.
Noah = RED
Japheth = Pale/Yellow
Ham = Black
Shem = White

Ironically, the four horsemen who also like to race, match and resemble the same colours.

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Where do the women they mated with come from?

 

[Panthers]

Where do the women they mated with come from?

Noah and his Sons had wives.

 

[Larniavc]

Noah and his Sons had wives.

I’m so sorry you seem to have misunderstood my question. Where did the women who mated with the four men you mentioned previously come from?

 

[Panthers]

I’m so sorry you seem to have misunderstood my question. Where did the women who mated with the four men you mentioned previously come from?

The guess would be from other women in the land of Noah before it was destroyed.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

The guess would be from other women in the land of Noah before it was destroyed.

But if Noah and his family were the only ones to survive in the world... where did the other women come from?

 

[Panthers]

But if Noah and his family were the only ones to survive in the world... where did the other women come from?

His sons had wives, they were on the boat.
Case closed.Genesis 7:7

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

His sons had wives, they were on the boat.
Case closed.Genesis 7:7

No, but my point, and Larniavc's still stands: if the Flood wiped out all the people on Earth bar Noah's family, where did the rest come from?

 

[AV1611VET]

From four men , you get four races.
This ripples throughout the bloodlines.
Coincidence? Hardly.
Noah = RED
Japheth = Pale/Yellow
Ham = Black
Shem = White

Panthers, nice to meet you.

I believe your information is incorrect here.

It should go like this:

Shem = Jews & Indians
Ham = Africans (including Egyptians)
Japheth = Europeans

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Panthers, nice to meet you.

I believe your information is incorrect here.

It should go like this:

Shem = Jews & Indians
Ham = Africans (including Egyptians)
Japheth = Europeans

From whom did Asians come from?

 

[CoreyD]

I thought I was clear, but let me try again. None of your "complaints" about radiocarbon dating have any impact on the broad dating of the Missoula floods. I hope this clarifies things for you.

You have provided nothing I didn't already know, and frankly some (most actually) of your "demonstrations" are completely irrelevant to the dating of flood deposits from more than 10,000 years ago.

You've made a lot of claims that these "challenges" you have copied and pasted are relevant to the issue at hand (the dating of the Missoula floods), and they just aren't. Nothing you have posted demonstrates in the slightest that you have any understanding of what you are trying to present. A lot of this comes from that it is clear you haven't read or understood many of your links. (The one about statistical methods and dating the Mayan site jumps out on this front.)

All I am seeing here are more claims, and what they demonstrate, is, that is all you have.

 

[AV1611VET]

From whom did Asians come from?

I'm not sure.

The Chinese came from Ham, but the others I don't know.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

I'm not sure.

The Chinese came from Ham, but the others I don't know.

So Ham begat both Africans AND Asian people?

 

[AV1611VET]

So Ham begat both Africans AND Asian people?

Don't start confusing yourself, Warden.

You're very good at tying yourself into knots.

Shem ... Jews & Indians

Ham ... Africans

Japheth ... Europeans

Don't worry about the Asians right now.

 

[Astrid]

His sons had wives, they were on the boat.
Case closed.Genesis 7:7

Except the boat and flood are fiction.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Don't start confusing yourself, Warden.

You're very good at tying yourself into knots.

Shem ... Jews & Indians

Ham ... Africans

Japheth ... Europeans

Don't worry about the Asians right now.

No, it's an important question to ask.

Asians are a massive group, which currently total at 59% of the global population.

In that group of Noah's sons, Panther said they came from Japheth, but you say they came from Ham, who also begat Africans.

So which is true?

 

[AV1611VET]

No, it's an important question to ask.

Asians are a massive group, which currently total at 59% of the global population.

In that group of Noah's sons, Panther said they came from Japheth, but you say they came from Ham, who also begat Africans.

So which is true?

Again, here we go with your bologna.

Show me where I said the Asians came from Ham.

The consensus of opinion is that the Asians came from Japheth.

So I'll go with that for now.

You are very good at misquoting me.

Very good.

 

[AV1611VET]

Except the boat and flood are fiction.

Only in academic circles.