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Yellowstone Hotspot has no evidence of Noah's Flood!

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Moving from the Columbia River Ice Age ripples, I’d like to now turn to the Yellow Stone Hot spot. The Yellow Stone Hotspot is stationary relative to the tectonic plate moving westward over it. The first eruptions at the Oregon/Nevada border have been dated to 17 million years ago. There has been at least 15 to 20 caldera forming eruptions as it burned its way to its present location which can be seen in maps. The Columbia River Basalts, which also began about 17 million years ago have been linked to the Yellow Stone Hotspot by the discovery of mafic globules and their similar chemical composition. What’s new is that research has raised the idea that the Hotspot actually began 50 million years ago off the coast as can be seen in the attached article.

Mixed in with this are the Cascade Mountains, of which there have been two ranges. The first in central Oregon started growing about 45 million years ago and has all but eroded away. Moving westward, the present Cascade Mountains, (anyone hear of St Helens?) began forming about 25 million years ago. Both were/are fed by the process of plate tectonics subduction. The Northwest has a long history of volcanic activity.

But the point I want to make is that using the geology of volcanism, nowhere are there any signs of a Noah Type Global Flood around any of this volcanic activity in the Northwest. Not in the mountions, not in the deserts, not in the caldera's of the Yellowstone Hotspot, absoutly no where are there any signs of a Noah Global type of flood. Any evidence of that flood simply does not exist. Why? Because as the geology of the Earth itself shows, the Noah Global flood did not happen.

On the other hand it needs to be noted that in Washington and Oregon there are plenty of signs of the Ice Age Floods as the flows plucked out the basalt creating wonderful landscapes such as the Columbia River Gorge.

Just how long has the Yellowstone Hotspot been around? | U.S. Geological Survey
 

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But the point I want to make is that using the geology of volcanism, nowhere are there any signs of a Noah Type Global Flood around any of this volcanic activity in the Northwest.

All that tells me is that Yellowstone came after the Flood; not before it.

And I would venture to say that all of earth's landmarks -- with two exceptions -- came after the Flood; not before it.

(Mountains not included, since the Bible says the ark rested in the mountains of Ararat.)
 
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All that tells me is that Yellowstone came after the Flood; not before it.

And I would venture to say that all of earth's landmarks -- with two exceptions -- came after the Flood; not before it.

(Mountains not included, since the Bible says the ark rested in the mountains of Ararat.)
So your telling us that in the past 4000 years the Yellowstone hot spot traveled all the way from the Oregon/Nevada border, blasting it's way to it's present location? And that the Columbia River Basalt flows, of which there are 350 or so, are also limited to the past 4000 years? I'd think that the indigenous people would have noticed. Than we have the glaciers coming down from the north which show no Noah Flood activity as well. Or are you saying all of that happened only in this past 4000 years?
 
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So your telling us that in the past 4000 years the Yellowstone hot spot traveled all the way from the Oregon/Nevada border, blasting it's way to it's present location?

If science says it traveled all the way from the Oregon/Nevada border and blasted its way to its present location, I won't dispute it.

What I will dispute though, is how long it took to do it.

And that the Columbia River Basalt flows, of which there are 350 or so, are also limited to the past 4000 years?

Yes.

I'd think that the indigenous people would have noticed.

Me too.

The Grand Canyon came before the Columbia River.

In other words, the Columbia River did not form the Grand Canyon.

The Grand Canyon came first, then the Columbia River started flowing through it.

Than we have the glaciers coming down from the north which show no Noah Flood activity as well.

Look for evidence of the Flood in glaciers is like looking for the Lincoln assassination in a crystal ball.

Or are you saying all of that happened only in this past 4000 years?

Sure.

Why not?
 
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If science says it traveled all the way from the Oregon/Nevada border and blasted its way to its present location, I won't dispute it.

What I will dispute though, is how long it took to do it.
If you were to roughly guess, how long do you think it took for the Yellowstone Hotspot, while going through a succession of eruptions, end up where it's at?
The Grand Canyon came before the Columbia River.

In other words, the Columbia River did not form the Grand Canyon.

The Grand Canyon came first, then the Columbia River started flowing through it.
Just a small geological correction. It's the Colorado River that flows through the Grand Canyon.
 
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If you were to roughly guess, how long do you think it took for the Yellowstone Hotspot, while going through a succession of eruptions, end up where it's at?

100 years.

Just a small geological correction. It's the Colorado River that flows through the Grand Canyon.

Oops! You are correct!

Thanks for the correction.
 
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So your telling us that in the past 4000 years the Yellowstone hot spot traveled all the way from the Oregon/Nevada border, blasting it's way to it's present location? And that the Columbia River Basalt flows, of which there are 350 or so, are also limited to the past 4000 years? I'd think that the indigenous people would have noticed. Than we have the glaciers coming down from the north which show no Noah Flood activity as well. Or are you saying all of that happened only in this past 4000 years?
QV
 
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