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So, what year range do you think Jesus Christ will return? Vote in the poll and then post your reason for your vote.
I think Christ will return in the 2030s for several reasons:
1) The 2030s will be exactly 2000 years after Christ left. God has a thing with numbers, and Christ has a 1000 year reign. It could be that Jesus Christ returns 2000 years after he ascended into heaven.
2) The timing is simply not right at this moment. We need a one world government before anything in the book of Revelation can begin happening, and it is going to take some time to set up a one world government (many legal hurdles, etc.). As soon as the one world government is in place the antichrist will appear. I think this will begin in the mid-to-late 2020s.
The "abomination of desolation" is by no means the armies of Titus.
Mt. 24 and Lu. 21 are describing two different things.
Amen brother!No, the entire discussion was in response to "what will be the sign of your coming, and of the end of the world?". See Mt. 24:3.
In addition, Luke 21 and Mt. 24 are describing two separate things - they simply omit part of each other's conversation. Luke gives an account where Christ gives a description of the fall of the temple in 70 AD, Matthew omits it. Matthew adds the abomination of desolation which Luke omits. Dan. 9:26-27 proves, beyond any shadow of any doubt, that the abomination of desolation will be placed after the destruction of the city and the temple. This conclusively proves that the events of 70 AD were not the abomination of desolation.
Hmm ...Daniel was ordered to be sealed until the end. As far as I can tell the end is not yet happened, unless this is the Kingdom of the Lordwhich shall never be broken. (still laughing).
Tis very revealing the 24 posters who voted for the return of Jesus happening within the next 10 years.
No, the entire discussion was in response to "what will be the sign of your coming, and of the end of the world?". See Mt. 24:3..
Jesus came out from the temple and was going away when His disciples came up to point out the temple buildings to Him.
2 And He said to them, "Do you not see all these things? Truly I say to you, not one stone here will be left upon another, which will not be torn down."
3 As He was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately, saying, "Tell us, when will these things happen, and what will be the sign of Your coming, and of the end of the age?"
Luke gives an account where Christ gives a description of the fall of the temple in 70 AD, Matthew omits it. Matthew adds the abomination of desolation which Luke omits
Luke 21
And while some were talking about the temple, that it was adorned with beautiful stones and votive gifts, He said,
6 "As for these things which you are looking at, the days will come in which there will not be left one stone upon another which will not be torn down."
7 They questioned Him, saying, "Teacher, when therefore will these things happen? And what will be the sign when these things are about to take place?"
Noone knows the day or hour, but we might suspect His coming around the first quarter of 2020. This is of course a posttrib view.Tis very revealing the 24 posters who voted for the return of Jesus happening within the next 10 years.
No sir, it was definately about the temple.Start at Matt 1.
Both are described the same way
Luke 21
"But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, then recognize that her desolation is near.
21 "Then those who are in Judea must flee to the mountains, and those who are in the midst of the city must leave, and those who are in the country must not enter the city;
22 because these are days of vengeance, so that all things which are written will be fulfilled.
23 "Woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days; for there will be great distress upon the land and wrath to this people;
Matt 24
"Therefore when you see the ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION which was spoken of through Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place (let the reader understand),
16 then those who are in Judea must flee to the mountains.
17 "Whoever is on the housetop must not go down to get the things out that are in his house.
18 "Whoever is in the field must not turn back to get his cloak.
19 "But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days!
20 "But pray that your flight will not be in the winter, or on a Sabbath.
Noone knows the day or hour, but we might suspect His coming around the first quarter of 2020. This is of course a posttrib view.
A similar pretrib view using the similar data and the restoration of Jerusalem, would be last quarter of 2012, early 2013.
But let us not limit our Lord. He might come before I enter this post. HalleluJAH!
Yeah, but ...Nonetheless, the Scriptures must be fulfilled before Jesus Christ can return (Rev., Isa. 17, etc.). Therefore, we must have a global world government, the mark of the beast, the destruction of Damascus, the drying of the Euphrates, etc. This destroys the doctrine of imminency.
How would anybody know if 1/3 of the sea creatures have died? Do we have a count on them? If so what's the total?Nighthawk -
Your YouTube link is not working. Anyways, I see no evidence for the idea that we are at the sixth trumpet now. Have 1/3 of the sea creatures died? Has 1/3 of the ocean turned into blood? None of the previous trumpets have happened in any verifiable way. Note that anyone can take various historical events and make them fit the trumpets, but there really isn't a solid reason for interpreting them 100% metaphorically.
Therefore, when John says that 1/3 of the sea creatures die, the best interpretation is to take it to be just that. That has not happened yet, so we cannot be in the sixth trumpet.
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