When was the Flood of Noah?

[AV1611VET]

Particularly when we should see ...

What if you weren't meant to see it?

 

[KWCrazy]

The biblical global flood story makes 2 scientifically testable predictions:

The presence of this thread makes one testable position: that the flood deniers will post here regardless of being dis invited because apparently they think more of their opinions than we do.
Natural law bows before the Lord. One day you will too.

 

[DogmaHunter]

Operations leave scars.[VERSE=Genesis 2:21,KJV]And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof;[/VERSE]God chose not to leave every scar made by the Flood.

Not just "every" scar. Not even "all scars".

If it's true, he even went out of his way to make it look as if it never happened.

You can believe that if you wish.
But in all honesty, it's on par with the worldview that reality is virtual and that we really are all just brains in jars hooked up to a Matrix like program.

So we are back to square one:
Not only is there no evidence for it, there is only evidence against it.

 

[toLiJC]

Yah, I believe we all learned that the world started october 23, 4004 b.c. according to a study of the genealogies in Genesis done by Bishop Ussher. This seems to be disputable, but never mind. I would like a discussion, where/when does real evidence point that the flood was. I can begin myself with this contribution: Evidence Noah's biblical flood happened, says Robert Ballard that points to a flood in the Black sea region around 5000 B.C.

http://a.abcnews.com/images/International/abc_Noahs_Ark_Dordrecht_kb_121206_wmain.jpg

Looking forward to some interesting input. Stretch your googles .....

And please, if you want to comment that there was no flood, just dont comment in this thread.

it was about 5 millennia ago, and it had been made by (purgatorial) spirit, not by H₂O, while the "ark" was just the preparation of that covenant which God made by Noah

Blessings

 

[DogmaHunter]

The presence of this thread makes one testable position: that the flood deniers will post here regardless of being dis invited because apparently they think more of their opinions than we do.
Natural law bows before the Lord.

There are plenty of places on this forum where none of us "flood deniers" are allowed to post.

This forum here is a public forum.
If you only want a one-sided conversation, there are plenty of places right on this forum where you can take refuge.

One day you will too.

That's what the guys from ISIS say to you about their god as well.
I bet you consider that an "empty threat".

Guess what I think of it when you say it.

 

[AV1611VET]

If it's true, he even went out of his way to make it look as if it never happened.

I don't believe that.

If He went out of His way to make it look as if it never happened, why then did He document it, then preserve that documentation for all generations to read?

In fact, it's even referenced (by Jesus & Peter) in the New Testament.

 

[SteveB28]

What if you weren't meant to see it?

Then the evidence is still absent. And it's absence is strong evidence that the claims are false.

 

[joshua 1 9]

would like a discussion, where/when does real evidence point that the flood was.

The evidence is in the DNA of all the biodiverse species in the ecosystem that were saved by Noah. You can study that evidence when you look at the Origins of agriculture in the Middle East. "Be fruitful and multiply and replenish the earth"

 

[AV1611VET]

Then the evidence is still absent. And it's absence is strong evidence that the claims are false.

I used to have a TOP SECRET security clearance in the Navy, working with the AUTODIN network.

One of the levels of security on a message is called FOR YOUR EYES ONLY.

When a FYEO came in, only those who handled the paperwork and the adressee(s) were allowed to see it.

Other types are LIMDIS (limited distribution) and the highest of all: SPECAT (special category).

 

[joshua 1 9]

If He went out of His way to make it look as if it never happened, why then did He document it, then preserve that documentation for all generations to read?

The people laughed and mocked at Noah at the time of the flood, just as they laugh and mock at him today. Only this time the world will not be cleansed with water it will be cleansed with fire.

luke 17 The Coming of the Kingdom
…26 "And just as it happened in the days of Noah, so it will be also in the days of the Son of Man: 27 they were eating, they were drinking, they were marrying, they were being given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, and the flood came and destroyed them all.28 "It was the same as happened in the days of Lot: they were eating, they were drinking, they were buying, they were selling, they were planting, they were building;…

 

[DogmaHunter]

I don't believe that.

If He went out of His way to make it look as if it never happened, why then did He document it, then preserve that documentation for all generations to read?

To see how gullible people are?

Obviously, I don't share your faith based belief that any of this is true.
It's obvious that we are going to run into a wall here, since you are on the side that states that nothing will change your mind.

All the evidence in the world could show you to be wrong, and you'll conclude that all the evidence in the world must be wrong, since you can't be.

There's only one thing I find respectable about that, and that is the fact that you are honest about it.

 

[SteveB28]

I used to have a TOP SECRET security clearance in the Navy, working with the AUTODIN network.

One of the levels of security on a message is called FOR YOUR EYES ONLY.

When a FYEO came in, only those who handled the paperwork and the adressee(s) were allowed to see it.

Other types are LIMDIS (limited distribution) and the highest of all: SPECAT (special category).

How rivetingly interesting.

There is no evidence of a global flood having occurred. Given the nature of such a claim, the probability of there being evidence is very high, if the event took place as claimed.

There is no evidence. We are then entitled to view this absence as strong evidence against the claim.

 

[AV1611VET]

To see how gullible people are?

Oh, please.

Obviously, I don't share your faith based belief that any of this is true.

At least show me you understand what it is you're not sharing.

It's obvious that we are going to run into a wall here, since you are on the side that states that nothing will change your mind.

I've changed my mind before.

Very seldom now, but tweaks are still being made.

All the evidence in the world could show you to be wrong, and you'll conclude that all the evidence in the world must be wrong, since you can't be.

What evidence?

Even you admitted there isn't any.

There's only one thing I find respectable about that, and that is the fact that you are honest about it.

Thank you, but my honesty isn't the point here.

 

[Ben West]

Yah, I believe we all learned that the world started october 23, 4004 b.c. according to a study of the genealogies in Genesis done by Bishop Ussher. This seems to be disputable, but never mind. I would like a discussion, where/when does real evidence point that the flood was. I can begin myself with this contribution: Evidence Noah's biblical flood happened, says Robert Ballard that points to a flood in the Black sea region around 5000 B.C.

Looking forward to some interesting input. Stretch your googles .....

And please, if you want to comment that there was no flood, just dont comment in this thread.

The Flood happened some 10-12k years ago and totally destroyed Adam's world (Kosmos). ll Peter 3:5 The Ark arrived in Lake Van, Turkey, in the mountains of Ararat and brought Adam's superior intelligence, which is like God's, to this Planet of the sons of God (prehistoric people) who were created and brought forth from the water on the 5th Day. Gen 1:21. Lake Van, on the following Map is between Mt Ararat and the Center of the Fertile Crescent, the Cradle of Human civilization on this Earth.
http://www.fsmitha.com/h1/map00-fc.html

Noah's grandsons had NO other Humans (descendants of Adam) to marry. Like Cain, on Adam's Earth, they married and produced children with the sons of God (prehistoric people) who were already here when Noah arrived. Gen 6:4 Today, there are some 7 Billion Humans (descendants of Adam) on this Earth. God Bless you

 

[AV1611VET]

How rivetingly interesting.

There is no evidence of a global flood having occurred. Given the nature of such a claim, the probability of there being evidence is very high, if the event took place as claimed.

There is no evidence. We are then entitled to view this absence as strong evidence against the claim.

LOL

As I read this, I got the image of someone living atop the White Cliffs of Dover, typing on the Internet that he doesn't see any evidence of the Flood.

 

[joshua 1 9]

How rivetingly interesting.

There is no evidence of a global flood having occurred.

Of course there is evidence only it is at the quantum level and people have not learned how to decipher that yet. Noah's flood was a shadow and type of the world wide destruction at Pangaea. The last supercontinent to have existed.

 

[SteveB28]

LOL

As I read this, I got the image of someone living atop the White Cliffs of Dover, typing on the Internet that he doesn't see any evidence of the Flood.

Your 'images' are as irrelevant as any other delusion.

The absence of any evidence for a global flood is a strong indication that no such event took place.

And you know it.

 

[SteveB28]

Of course there is evidence only it is at the quantum level and people have not learned how to decipher that yet.

Then there is no evidence. If something can't be deciphered, then it can't be observed. We have no evidence of a global flood. There wasn't one.

 

[Ben West]

Your 'images' are as irrelevant as any other delusion.

The absence of any evidence for a global flood is a strong indication that no such event took place.

And you know it.

The problem with most people is they don't know that it was Adam's world which suffered a Global Flood and NOT the present Earth. Amen?

 

[SteveB28]

The problem with most people is they don't know that it was Adam's world which suffered a Global Flood and NOT the present Earth. Amen?

Another baseless, evidence-free claim.