When Sane and Honest People See Werewolves...

[jacks]

I don't know but no real evidence with millions of people like us and all this technology.. I truly don't believe. Imagination can run wild in the wilderness, I'm sure you know what I mean.

Yeah I do and I really don't believe in them either. Just like sometimes in the semi-dark you will see something and think it is a bear, snake, person, etc. and it turns out to be a tree stump or stick.

 

[Under_the_moon]

I've seen them smell me and stand up walking around upright. Have you never been to a circus? They walk upright for the show. Its nothing new or amazing. Its naturally for them. I don't mean they run around the bush on two legs, but they often walk upright to smell the air when they catch a scent.

 

[Pavel Mosko]

Actually they walk upright a lot. I've seen it a lot. I put out bait in a tree and they walk upright no problem. I'm sure there are videos online if you don't believe that.

I know they do, but I hear it is usually short distances, not their preferred mode of travel.

 

[Under_the_moon]

Yes but if you see them between the trees and they catch your scent and walk around upright its not like you are following them for miles. I imagine more cases of the above wolf man stories are glimpses,not following the Wolfman around for any period of time. Is so, they shouldn't have eaten those wild mushrooms lol

 

[Under_the_moon]

Anyway ill stick with checking what's on my nature cams and the millions of wilderness cams set up around the world.

 

[Quid est Veritas?]

What I find interesting, is that they term it Dogman. As in, "I don't want to look like a weirdo that saw a werewolf" so I call it a dogman. Or because wolves are largely outside most peoples' references nowadays, seeing that they are largely eradicated from most areas, they grope for a dog as reference point.

That said, I wonder the correlation with popular culture? There were a slew of Werewolf themed stories and things following Twilight. I wouldn't be surprised if that is when it took off, as the imagination was primed. It is the same how Alien abduction stories follow cultural predictions, so that the type of Alien depends on the culture; or how after The Truman Show the amount of people who reported paranoid delusions of being the subject of a 'show' spiked.

That said, something probably is underlying it, and the increasing urbanisation with foraging bears seem most plausible to me, personally.

 

[Kenny'sID]

So What do you think of this topic

I don't believe anyone saw a werewolf, however, being a huge werewolf fan (my first favorite monster as a child) by all means...convince me.

 

[Pavel Mosko]

That said, I wonder the correlation with popular culture? There were a slew of Werewolf themed stories and things following Twilight. I wouldn't be surprised if that is when it took off, as the imagination was primed. It is the same how Alien abduction stories follow cultural predictions, so that the type of Alien depends on the culture; or how after The Truman Show the amount of people who reported paranoid delusions of being the subject of a 'show' spiked.

As I've said before in the OP and another post I do think culture plays a role. That is what the Bandwagon effect is, it's another aspect of herd behavior, in social psychology it is called "Social Proof". And of course, the power of suggestion etc. by having those kinds of images out there in the culture.


I guess the thing that sells me on some of it are some of the testimony type things where people seem to be shaken up. Probably the best example, is not a Dogman but a 911 call relating to Big foot. I would link to it, but the fact the caller uses "God and Jesus Christ" as swears might be against the forum rules.
But you can find it if you search on You-tube.

Justin Mosher, The Bigfoot 911 Call

That sort of thing is really interesting if you get into things like the Psychology of lie detection. While the video is labeled Big Foot the caller never uses that term in the two minutes of the call. It is heavily implied, but he seems to be evasive for obvious reasons (probably doesn't want the operator to think he is a crank caller).

The other thing that is interesting are his his emotions thing like having your voice crack and other kinds of emotional responses that leak out. A lot of that stuff is outside of our control, even by people who are professional Hollywood actors. e.g. - Lots of people were impressed by the performance of Shelley Duvall in the movie "The Shining", of being in complete horror in the last Act of that movie. But behind the scenes the Director was having to do a lot of stuff to get that behavior and emotional responses because all the little acting tricks people were taught in theater were not enough.

Shelley Duvall's Traumatic Experience Making 'The Shining' Scarred her for Life

 

[Under_the_moon]

Keep in mind there is the mental disorder lycanthrophy. People who think they are a wolf. I don't know, but if I thought I was a wolf I'd probably run around the woods naked acting like a wolf when its a full moon.. maybe. Point is maybe some people do and anyone seeing it might be freaked out.

Also the possibility of fun. I could see someone getting a good laugh dressing like a werewolf and freaking out city folk who are out camping or keeping people from wanting to trespass on private land. I'm sure there are a million reasons why someone would dress up in a monster costume. Maybe freaking people out on purpose or by accident.

 

[Gregory Thompson]

There has been a substantial rise in sightings of Werewolf Like beasts in the US and other countries since the late 90s. By this I am talking about "upright walking canines". Basically wolf or dog like creatures that walk up right like a man, but usually much, much larger than any regular sized wolf, or coyote. These people are more or less seeing something that is straight out of a modern horror movie like what is pictured below.

The book "The Beast of Bray Road" was a significant milestone of this phenomenon, but people who have researched this topic have found sightings that go back into the 1800s, not to mention the beliefs of Native Americans concerning creatures called "Skin Walkers" (Shamans that can shape change into various creatures including wolves), and continental European settlers who often believed in the traditional werewolf legends.


So What do you think of this topic?


I find it fascinating and I find some of the testimony of of these people who see "Dogman" (as it is called today) sometimes very compelling. Some people seem to have PTSD from their experience. But on the other hand, psychology, the power of suggestion, the power of memes and the band wagon affect also are probably at work as well.



I also am posting the thread because I was looking at posting a thread in the Controversial Theology board on the idea of the Rakshasa (Demon in the Flesh). I think there is often a strong paranormal relationship with strange sightings like this, when it comes to the occult etc.



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Reminds me of hieroglyphs. or those cat pharaohs.

 

[Pavel Mosko]

Reminds me of hieroglyphs. or those cat pharaohs.

Yes their are people who look at things like Anubis as proof that these things existed from ancient times. Their are also are ancient tales from the Greeks of a dog headed people, that is suppose to have traded with the ancient Greeks.

But I don't think people understand the kinds of symbolic portals of the ancients. Saint Christopher has often been depicted with the head of the dog, even though it is clear that the ancient church did not believe him to be a literal "Dogman"

Saint Christopher - Wikipedia

 

[Quid est Veritas?]

even though it is clear that the ancient church did not believe him to be a literal "Dogman"

I disagree this is clear. The Ancient and Mediaeval people believed in the Cynocephalae. And why not? They were mentioned in serious writers like Pliny, and more popular ones like Marco Polo, and even fictional narratives like John de Mandeville. Augustine of Hippo debated on whether they were descendants of Adam (although it is true, he was not wholly convinced).

The dog-headed men were said to inhabit the furthest reaches of India, beyond Taprobane and the Chryse Chersonessus. This puts them at least in Indonesia, and I have read a number of good arguments that what we are really seeing here, is a description of Australoid peoples of New Guinea and Australia, or the Melanesians.

St Christopher's story is clearly a version of the river-crossing motief, but his dog-headedness is not necessarily just a figment or mediaeval fantasy. The extensive reports of them from Antiquity makes it more probable we are dealing with a garbled description of real people, and to a European traveller, it would make sense use the term dog-headed. I see more modern people trying to excuse what is probably just an ethnographic metaphor, like calling Amerindians red-skins or so.

 

[jayem]

I’m overwhelmingly skeptical about the existence of werewolves. (Though in college, I had a frat brother who’s table manners suggested he was raised by wolves.) And if I ever encounter some tall, menacing, hairy beast with huge canine teeth, walking upright on 2 legs, I’d make sure it’s not just a bear. Given the rise in silver prices over the last year, I wouldn’t want to waste expensive (and hard to find) silver bullets on a bear.

 

[Pavel Mosko]

Interesting image I just noticed on CNN web site while looking at video for Ukraine war.

Video: Mystery creature is caught on camera at Amarillo, Texas, zoo - CNN Video

 

[guyver]

Having seen first hand poltergeist activity for much of my life , very little surprises me anymore.
Recently had a friend say he saw a guy shape shift into a lizard or reptilian type thing and back again.

Another friend of a friend was at Mcdonalds drive through when the woman serving him shape shifted and tried to hide it by putting her hand over her face , but he said he could still see one big yellow reptilian eye.

So werewolves ?.......yeah why not , as long as they don't bite you.

 

[Gregory Thompson]

So What do you think of this topic?

reminds me of this song.

 

[cow451]

Interesting image I just noticed on CNN web site while looking at video for Ukraine war.

Video: Mystery creature is caught on camera at Amarillo, Texas, zoo - CNN Video

 

[Occams Barber]

Years ago one of my dogs was hit by a car and lost a back leg.

I was amazed at how quickly he recovered and was able to literally run around on three legs by centering his rear leg for balance.

OB

 

[Lost4words]

These things appear when you start injecting and popping pills!

 

[Junkyarder]

I've become aware from experience that angels, regardless of their alignment, must receive permission from God to be perceived.

They also have the ability to manipulate our biochemistry in such a way as to induce hallucinations. Fear opens the door.

To what end does witnessing a strange creature affect a person? Only God knows, and we should trust his plan.