When Do the 2,520 Days of the Tribulation Take Place?

[TishaBAv]

Jesus said when Israel becomes a nation ("when his branch is yet tender," Matt. 24.32b) and enters Jerusalem ("and putteth forth leaves," v.32c), you can know the season ("ye know that summer is nigh," v.32d) when He returns even the very day ("when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, right at the door," v.33). Don't let anyone lead you astray and tell you otherwise who will misuse certain verses to follow Satan in saying you can't know. For example, Matt. 24.36 is referring to the end of the world (v.35) not to when Jesus returns. Certainly, Jesus at the right hand of the Father knows now when He will return and imparts this to us. He will return in Person with 10,000 of His saints (Jude 14,15) to reign 1000 years with a "rod of iron" after which comes the end of the world so we can know the day just not the hour (v.42).

The two Lunar Tetrads that fell on passover, tabernacles and again on passover and tabernacles in 1949/50 (6th since Christ) when Israel became a nation and 1967/68 (7th since Christ) when Israel entered Jerusalem was the first time since Christ two feast Tetrads occurred within 18 years apart, so this is the reference point to what Jesus was talking about when He told His disciples about specific cosmic signs (Luke 21.25).

Before the great and terrible day of the Lord (Joel 2.31) would occur three events in specific order (Rev. 6.12):

1) A great earthquake. Haiti 2010 had the second most deaths and most deaths per capita. Japan 2011 was the greatest financial loss and 5th greatest in magnitude.
2) A unique solar eclipse. The rarest type, the Hybrid H3 long-dated Nov. 3, 2013, is the 4th since Christ.
3) A unique lunar eclipse. The Total Lunar Tetrad 2014/15 is the 8th since Christ and won't happen again till 2582/83.

Unless you believe in Partial Rapture, you won't be able to perceive Rev. 6.12 correctly occurring right before the Tribulation starts.

The commencement of the building of the Temple and start of the Tribulation would begin in or right next to the 2014/15 Tetrad.

There needs be 2,520 days from Feast of Trumpets (the First Rapture) to Tisha B'Av that commemorates when the 1st and 2nd Temples were destroyed. 2014-21 and 2016-23 don't fit the profile, but 2015-22 does exactly.

Hence, the First Rapture to "the throne" (Rev 7.9) according to readiness (3.10, Matt. 24.40-42, Luke 21.36) is Sept. 14, 2015 before the first trumpet of the Tribulation is blown (8.7ff) which begins the 7 year Tribulation.

The last trumpet rapture and resurrection (1 Cor. 15.23, 1 Thess. 4.14-18, Rev. 11.15, 14.14-16, 15.2-4) is at the start of the 7th trumpet containing the 7 bowls of wrath that last 24 months. The first four trumpets are 42 months, the 5th trumpet is 5 months and the 6th trumpet lasts 13 months.

Jesus steps down on the mount of olives (Zech. 14.4, Acts 1.11, Rev. 1.7, 19.11-16) on Tisha B'Av Sunday, Aug. 7 (Av 10), 2022. When Tisha B'Av falls on a Saturday as on Aug. 6 (Av 9), 2022 it is held the day after instead.

The likelihood of Jesus returning on Sunday is 1 in 7, and the likelihood of Tisha B'Av held over from Saturday is 1 in 7. Less than half of all seven year periods from Feast of Trumpets to Tisha B'Av work out to be exactly 2,520 days. Including also the probabilities for the Great Earthquake (1 in 2010), H3 Solar Eclipse (1 in 700) and Tetrads (1 in 100,000) in specific order (1 in 6), we come to a probability of 83 trillion to 1.

 

[Truth Files]

The dating of the period of time of 2520 + 30 days of the Lord's coming tribulation and judgment is not known by anyone .... He has made this perfectly clear in His Word

This time frame of the end of this present age is still pending and will come suddenly with no warning to earth dwellers

It could begin before this day is over

 

[TishaBAv]

The dating of the period of time of 2520 + 30 days of the Lord's coming tribulation and judgment is not known by anyone .... He has made this perfectly clear in His Word

This time frame of the end of this present age is still pending and will come suddenly with no warning to earth dwellers

It could begin before this day is over

The Lord returns on the 2,520th day. 30 days more from the 1260th to the 1290th is for Jesus to judge the nations. 45 days after that is to the 1335th day to set up Israel as the center of all nations.

Only spiritual Christians know when the first rapture is, Tribulation and when Jesus steps down, so we don't let our houses be broken into as we stand at the door ready to be received at the first rapture. The reason you can't perceive this is because flesly or false Christians wouldn't normally believe in partial rapture.

We can know when Jesus returns "right at the door" (Matt. 24.33) the Bible says. Though we can know day we can't know the hour (v.42). God has made this perfectly clear.

The Lord will come like a thief in the night to those who are not watchful. Even though you have been shown when, your spirit is too insensitive to realize it so you will certainly not be included in the first rapture according to readiness.

Jesus couldn't return tomorrow because the Temple is not completed and there have not been 2300 days from the completion of the Temple to the end of the Tribulation. Hasn't happened yet.

Think how strange that would be Jesus returns and He has to wait a couple years before He can't reign in the Temple.

 

[Truth Files]

No one can know the times that you suggest [Matthew 25:13; 1Thessalonians 5:1-2; Acts 1:7]

Your are teaching a falsehood just as many have and do by your predictions .... all will fail

No way to know the day or the hour .... or the minute, or the second .... the Lord has not revealed even the year, or the month, or the decade .... and He has warned against false prophets and false teachers who attempt to tell otherwise

And there will not be a tribulation temple of the Lord's on the mount, He would never accept it in the first place let alone reign in it [Revelation 11:2]

His temple will not be built until after the coming tribulation of his wrath and for His millennial kingdom on the earth [Ezekiel 40-48]

And this one will sit in the temple of his "god" which is already on the mount today [2Thessalonians 2:2-12]

Tell me, what movement are you following?

 

[TishaBAv]

No one can know the times that you suggest [Matthew 25:13; 1Thessalonians 5:1-2; Acts 1:7]

Don't read Matt. 25.13 without reading Matt. 24.33 and v.42. Therefore, we can know the day "right at the door" though not the hour after Israel becomes a nation. Matt. 25.13 follows v.12 speaking of carnal Christians, "I know you not" that's why they don't know the season or the day. 1 Thess. 5.1-2 says "of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you" because we know, but to carnal Christians unwatchful, He comes like a thief in the night. Acts 1.7 is speaking of the times of the original Apostles; it in no way is saying we can never know. Surely Jesus knows now at the right hand of the Father and has shown His spiritual ones by the Holy Spirit in agreement with the word of God and signs. Matt. 24.32 says, "Now learn a parable of the fig tree [representing Israel]; When his branch is yet tender [1948 Israel a nation], and putteth forth leaves [enters Jerusalem 1967], ye know that summer is nigh." Summer is a season. In short, you can know after 1948, but not before. It was dependent on understanding the connection to and rarity of the Tetrads as the signs in the heavens attached to 1948 and 1967 leading us to 2014/15.

And there will not be a tribulation temple of the Lord's on the mount, He would never accept it in the first place let alone reign in it [Revelation 11:2]

The Lord's heart is closely attached to the Temple, for it greatly saddened Him when the 1st and 2nd Temples were destroyed. "But do not measure the court outside the temple; leave that out, for it is given over to the nations, and they will trample over the holy city for forty-two months" (Rev. 11.2). Obviously, the Temple is present during the Tribulation. Antichrist even sets himself up in it: "Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God" (2 Thess. 2.4). When Jesus returns, making some renovations to the Temple I am sure, He will reign on earth for 1000 years in it.

When you begin seeing construction begun on the Temple somewhere from 2013 to 2015 and completed by April 20, 2016 during the 4 day inspection of the Lamb so there are 2300 days left in the Tribulation from April 21, 2016 to Aug. 7, 2022 when Jesus steps down, will you believe?

His temple will not be built until after the coming tribulation of his wrath and for His millennial kingdom on the earth [Ezekiel 40-48]

No, the reason His parousia commences at the start of the Tribulation lasting 7 years is because His temple is completed from where He will reign, because of the first rapture according to readiness of overcomers "before the throne" (Rev. 7.9) at the start of the Tribulation and to end the Great Tribulation, defeat Satan, Antichrist and False Prophet. Jesus will not have to wait 2 or 3 years of the building of the Temple to sleep in a bed and reign without His temple. That will never do!

And this one will sit in the temple of his "god" which is already on the mount today [2Thessalonians 2:2-12]

"Temple of God" (2 Thess. 2.4)-Antichrist will sit in the Temple of God using it for his selfish purposes. There is no "Temple of God" on the mount today.

I have told you the truth.

 

[Truth Files]

You have not ..... maybe you think you have

I am curious as to your affiliation and following .... what movement do you embrace?

Would you care to tell the forum .... or not

If it is Mark Biltz you are following a known false prophet

This man mixes astrology with the prophetic scriptures of the Bible

 

[billybtennessee]

Another date setter. One who claims to know more than Jesus Christ about it, and wants to prove Jesus Christ a liar. Others have exposed themselves as false, and you are well on your way. "But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, but My Father only."

But you think different. But as many others, I am sure that you can explain in your mind why you do. Jesus said, "Be ready".

 

[TishaBAv]

If it is Mark Biltz you are following a known false prophet

Mark was wrong. I am right.

You are searching for some denomination but the Bible says don't say "I of Cephas" or "I of Apollos" which can be construed as denominationalism. Don't even say "I of Christ" because that is like saying you are better because you are non-denominational and exalting your congregationalism.

It is better to just say I believe in Jesus, He is God (2nd Person of the Trinity), died for my sins, resurrected the third day and thus I am born-again, a child of God, have eternal life and shall be resurrected the last day. So I seek to overcometh so I may be included not only in the first rapture according to readiness, but also the first resurrection which is the best one, that is to return with Christ to reign during the 1000 years. Not all Christians receive this reward.

 

[TishaBAv]

Another date setter. One who claims to know more than Jesus Christ about it, and wants to prove Jesus Christ a liar. Others have exposed themselves as false, and you are well on your way. "But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, but My Father only."

But you think different. But as many others, I am sure that you can explain in your mind why you do. Jesus said, "Be ready".

Since this is certain it is not date setting. Since Jesus said we can know "right at the door" (Matt. 24.33) after Israel becomes a nation (v.32) then accept what He said. Jesus knows and surely He knows the exact date now that He is at the right hand of the Father and gives it to us by His Holy Spirit.

You are misreading Matt. 24.36. Verse 35 says at the end of the world, the end of the 1000 years. Of course we can't know that day. But we are not talking about then but about when Jesus returns, when the Tribulation occurs, when the first rapture takes place (according to readiness) and the last trumpet rapture and resurrection. These we can know the day but not the hour (v.42). The carnal Christian though saved and has eternal life which can never be lost can't know because he is fleshly, so he can't know the day.

By being ready you don't reject when Jesus says He is returning.

Praise the Lord!

 

[zeke37]

there is no pre trib or mid trib rapture...

according to readiness....lol.

toooooo much!




post trib, kids! post trib!

 

[TishaBAv]

If "thou didst keep the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of trial, that hour which is to come upon the whole world, to try them that dwell upon the earth" (Rev. 3.10).

This is a conditional statement according to readiness.

"Before the throne" (Rev. 7.9) is before the Tribulation begins with the first trumpet (8.7ff).

 

[zeke37]

If "thou didst keep the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of trial, that hour which is to come upon the whole world, to try them that dwell upon the earth" (Rev. 3.10).

well, it doesn`t mean leaving the planet.
it means being KEPT safe, by God, through the trib that comes upon us all. its a test.
Our Father needs us in that time(that pre trib thinks they are not here for), to witness the truth to the deceived.

I cant help but feel that the pre tribbers are actually the ones, that will be the deceived ones.

Jesus and Paul both taught that the false comes first, yet pre trib teaches otherwise.

This is a conditional statement according to readiness.

whoever is ready, (only the 144,000 elect), will be sealed before the 4 winds blow the trib (Rev7).

the when, according to readiness, is after the trib of those days, at His 2nd Coming.
some wont be ready before He comes at all...not until we are already in the day of the Lord.

"Before the throne" (Rev. 7.9) is before the Tribulation begins with the first trumpet (8.7ff).

the timing of Rev7s latter group is up for debate.
Rev is NOT linear or chronological.

I used to be a pre tribber...
I have heard it all, and thankfully now, completely disagree.
I pray u will 2 1day.

 

[TishaBAv]

God can't promise a Christian will be kept safe through the Tribulation for there will be many martyred Christians.

The proper attitude to have is if you are accounted worthy you will be raptured at the first rapture, but if not, you'll pass through the time of testing.

Both the pretribber onlyists and the posttrib onlyists are the deceived the ones, for they will accuse those first raptured according to readiness as being a fake rapture.

The falling away that comes first is before Jesus steps down, not before the first rapture.

The first rapture is not limited to the 144,000 but certainly would include them.

The readiness is not after those days but before, for the first rapture, since only those who are watchful, prayerful and keep the word of His patience will escape all these things that come upon the whole earth.

Revelation is chronological. Just like Gen. 2 gives the details of Gen. 1, Rev. 12 to 19 give the details of the major points of Rev. 7 to 11.

 

[Manasseh_]

Dan 12:7 And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished.

Rev 12:6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.

Rev 12:14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.

Rev 11:2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.

Rev 11:3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.

Rev 13:5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.


The tribes of Israel (Jacob's trouble Jeremiah 30) lasts for a time, times and half a time............3.5 years

the woman (church) is kept safe on earth, in the wilderness, by God for a thousand two hundred and threescore days / a time , times , and half a time.......................3.5 years

God's servants , two witnesses will prophesy (preach) against the beast for a thousand two hundred and threescore days, .......3.5 years

The gentiles will overtake the holy city Jerusalem and the beast will rule for forty and two months...............3.5 years


There isn't going to be a 2,520 day tribulation because scripture says there isn't and at the same time teaches how long it does last.............a time , times , half a time....................a thousand two hundred and threescore days, forty and two months..............3.5 years

Two gatherings of the saints are not taught either..............
After tribulation..................................Matt 24
Last day...................................................John 6
At that day (his appearing)...........2Ti 4:8 , 1Cor 15:23
Last trump / seventh trumpet.......1 Cor 15:52, Rev 11:15
many OT prophets called it the Day of the Lord.........Joel, Amos, Obadiah, Micah, Zephaniah, Zechariah, Malachi..............

there will be a gathering of saints AFTER the 1,260 day tribulation, to teach otherwise is a false teaching and cannot be backed by scripture

 

[TishaBAv]

Just as all the sets of seven of Daniel's prophecy were seven years each (7 x 360), so too will by the final seven. You can count on that.

There is actually multiple gatherings. There was Enoch and Elijah, Jesus was raised up, the first rapture according to readiness, resurrection and rapture of saints 3.5 days after they go to rest during the Tribulation, the general rapture and resurrection at the last trumpet, and even gleaning raptures during the last 24 months.

According to the Tetrads the first rapture according to readiness is Sept. 14, 2015 on Feast of Trumpets. The midpoint of the 7 years is Feb. 25, 2019 (start of the 5th trumpet or 1st woe). The 2nd woe starts July 25, 2019. And the 3rd woe or 7th trumpet begins Aug. 18, 2020, leaving 24 months of gleanings to Aug. 7, 2022 Tisha B'Av when Jesus steps down.

There will be many martyred Christians during the Great Tribulation (the second half of the 2,520 days), so God can't promise to keep a Christian safe. He can keep this promise if the believer is raptured before the Tribulation, if they keep the word of His patience to escape the hour of trial that is to come upon the whole world.

When Israel is overrun for 42 months, "do not measure the court outside the temple; leave that out, for it is given over to the nations, and they will trample over the holy city for forty-two months" (Rev. 11.2). The Temple will not be destroyed during the Great Tribulation. This is quite different than what occured in 70 AD.

 

[Truth Files]

"It means being KEPT safe, by God, through the trib"

Have you ever read the book of Revelation?

[Revelation 12:12; 13:7; 13:15; 14:13; 20:4]

Someone has mislead you

 

[TishaBAv]

God can't promise to keep you safe through the Tribulation for obviously many spiritual Christians will be martyred during the Tribulation. Even though being spiritual many yet shall be martyred as were the original disciples.

I've read the book of Revelation at least 100 times. Have you? "It was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them" (Rev. 13.7). This is not a keeping through, nor is death (14.13). What love is that? I don't know if you misled yourself or were deceived by some other, but behind it is Satan deceiving you.

That God will “keep” them safely through the Great Tribulation: just as, for example, when an entire house is caught on fire, one room may be left untouched; or for example, when the land of Egypt came under the plague, the land of Goshen where the children of Israel dwelt in Egypt went unscathed (see Ex. 9.26, 10.23). Such an explanation is erroneous because (1) the “keeping” in view here (Rev. 3.10) is not a keeping through but a keeping from. In the Greek text, after the word “keep” in this verse there is the word ek which means “out of’ (as in the word ekklesia which means “the called out ones&#8221. Here, therefore, ek signifies a being kept out of the Tribulation.

And (2) “Because thou didst keep the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of trial” (3.10a) - As we have seen, the trial which is to come upon the whole world is the Great Tribulation; but notice that it is not a keeping from the trial but a keeping from the hour of the trial, In order to be kept out of the hour of trial, we must leave the world. There are only two ways for God to keep us out: death and rapture. And hence part of the living will be raptured before the Tribulation.

The church would lose her hope - “Looking for the blessed hope and appearing of the glory of the great God and our Savior Jesus Christ” (Titus 2.13) - for included in this hope is the blessing of escaping the Tribulation.

How are believers to escape all these coming things (Luke 21.36) and to stand before the Son of man? Naturally by being raptured. Death is not a blessing: we do not pray and expect death. The condition here for rapture is to watch and pray. Hence here, not all the regenerated may be first raptured. Pray always. What to pray for? Pray that we may escape all these things which shall come to pass. “That ye may prevail” (or, “ye may be accounted worthy” AV), It is not a question of grace, but rather a matter of worthiness. How about worthiness? God cannot receive you to the place where you have no desire to go. Some people may consider heaven as too tasteless a place in which to live as may be indicated by these words: “Lest haply your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life” (v.34). If a balloon is tied, it cannot ascend.

In sum, Luke 21.36 shatters the arguments of both the first and second schools of interpretation of pretrib and postrib onlyists. The second school may still raise other arguments, such as (1) that rapture is not dependent on conduct - yet in reply it should be asked whether anyone thinks a carnal believer lying on a bed of fornication will be raptured? Or (2) that the phrase “all these things” does not refer to the Great Tribulation but to the surfeiting, drunkenness, and cares of this life cited in verse 34. In reply, it should be noted that verse 36 reads, “all these things that shall come to pass" - whereas “surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life” pertain to the things which are present now. And therefore, “watch ye” means to not be deceived by such activities.

 

[Truth Files]

"It means being KEPT safe, by God, through the trib"

This response above was made in regard to Revelation 3:10 by a poster

My question was not addressed to you Tish, but to the one who made this statement and who misses the fact there is no promise of protection for those who enter the tribulation period except for the 144,000 children of Israel, the Lord's two prophets, and those Israelites who will flee Jerusalem when they see the abomination of desolation being set up on the temple mount

 

[TishaBAv]

I am responding to you Truth Files because you are wrong. Your truth is a lie.

The 144,00 (Rev. 14.1-5) are not Israel, but Christian virgins and they are first raptured "before the throne" (Rev. 7.9) before the Tribulation starts (8.7ff). The 144,000 in Rev. 7.1-8 are a remnant of Jews which will hide in Petra city during the Great Tribulation. Antichrist will let them be.

"Death is no blessing" - God can't promise a Christian no death through the Tribulation so the keeping from the Tribuation is the first rapture (Matt. 24.40-42, Luke 21.36, Rev. 3.10) according to readiness - these are conditional statements for believers.

That God will “keep” them safely through the Great Tribulation: just as, for example, when an entire house is caught on fire, one room may be left untouched; or for example, when the land of Egypt came under the plague, the land of Goshen where the children of Israel dwelt in Egypt went unscathed (see Ex. 9.26, 10.23). Such an explanation is erroneous because (1) the “keeping” in view here (Rev. 3.10) is not a keeping through but a keeping from. In the Greek text, after the word “keep” in this verse there is the word ek which means “out of’ (as in the word ekklesia which means “the called out ones&#8221. Here, therefore, ek signifies a being kept out of the Tribulation.

And (2) “Because thou didst keep the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of trial” (3.10a) - As we have seen, the trial which is to come upon the whole world is the Great Tribulation; but notice that it is not a keeping from the trial but a keeping from the hour of the trial, In order to be kept out of the hour of trial, we must leave the world. There are only two ways for God to keep us out: death and rapture. And hence part of the living will be raptured before the Tribulation since death is no blessing.

No more false teaching! This is your time to repent.

 

[Manasseh_]

There are only two ways for God to keep us out: death and rapture. And hence part of the living will be raptured before the Tribulation.

God protected Noah and his family forewarning Noah that he was going to flood the earth and commanded that he should build the ark
God protected Daniel in the lion's den and he protected Daniel's friends even from a hot furnace of fire
God protected a whole nation (Israel) from Pharaoh and his armies as they came to destroy them in the wilderness

many other examples show that God is perfectly capable to protect his own right here on earth and Rev 12 gives the answer again that God will protect those elect that were watchful right here on earth, the earth helped the woman and when satan sees that he cannot get to her because of God's divine protection he then goes after the remnant (lukewarm) believers who did not heed the warnings but still remain believers.

The church would lose her hope - “Looking for the blessed hope and appearing of the glory of the great God and our Savior Jesus Christ” (Titus 2.13) - for included in this hope is the blessing of escaping the Tribulation.

Tit 2:13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;

that glorious appearing is promised at an appointed time , specified time AFTER tribulation by none other than Christ himself

Matthew 24..............AFTER TRIBULATION
John 6:39,40,44, 54................on the LAST DAY

His parables..............
wheat and tares grown together until the appointed time
the fish caught in the net
sheep and goats
parable of the talents
5 wise virgins , 5 foolish virgins
.....and other parables similar, all teach both righteous and wicked remain together until an appointed time of separation, righteous given reward (eternal life)............wicked given judgment .........all at the same second coming after tribulation

Paul taught..............
his appearing, at that day..... 2Tim 4:8
his coming .............1Cor 15:23
last trump..............1Cor 15:52
resurrection and gathering at his coming.........1Thess 4

Paul would not teach contrary to his own savior's teachings and prophecies

The church will not lose it's hope if it continues to believe the direct teachings and promises made directly by Christ..............

your false doctrine contradicts what Christ taught according to God's written word