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Christsfreeservant

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Feel free. Meanwhile, I will stick to what it actually says, rather than looking for hidden codes.

Each to his own.

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As a general principle, anyone who wakes at any time of night after having a nightmare is well advised to pray. That probably goes without saying. Meanwhile, if God has a message for us, he does not deliver it by monsters in the night.

No disrespect meant here, but if you stick to a purely literal interpretation of scripture only stance, then you might as well avoid reading the entire Old Testament, because it was written for the Jews back then under the OT law so most of it doesn't apply to us today, and the prophecies from Isaiah to Malachi would have to be avoided, as well, since they are written in symbolic and often coded terms, as well as I would avoid most of Jesus' teachings, since he spoke in parables, as well as you would have to avoid the book of Revelation, because that is all written in code, and the letters in the NT were written to specific people at a specific point in time, so basically there would not be much value in reading scripture.

when the Bible states that ALL scripture is written by inspiration of God and is "profitable" for..., it takes into consideration that we can learn something from all scripture whether or not it was specifically written to us or said to us. There are still principles we can learn from it, even the OT. So, when we see a repitition of anything in scripture, we should take note, see what the repititioin is concerning and what we can learn from it. If we only read and only apply truths from scripture that are specifically spoken to us or written to us, then it severely limits what lessons we can learn. Does this make sense?
 
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Feel free. Meanwhile, I will stick to what it actually says, rather than looking for hidden codes.

Each to his own.

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Catherineanne, May I ask you a question? What would be your literal interpretation of this passage of scripture? I mean this with total respect for what you are stating here, and with all seriousness. I believe this is very important. I do hope you will respond.

John 3:1-21:
Jesus Teaches Nicodemus

1Now there was a man of the Pharisees named Nicodemus, a member of the Jewish ruling council. 2He came to Jesus at night and said, "Rabbi, we know you are a teacher who has come from God. For no one could perform the miraculous signs you are doing if God were not with him."

3In reply Jesus declared, "I tell you the truth, no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again."
4"How can a man be born when he is old?" Nicodemus asked. "Surely he cannot enter a second time into his mother's womb to be born!"
5Jesus answered, "I tell you the truth, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of water and the Spirit. 6Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit. 7You should not be surprised at my saying, 'You must be born again.' 8The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit."
9"How can this be?" Nicodemus asked.
10"You are Israel's teacher," said Jesus, "and do you not understand these things? 11I tell you the truth, we speak of what we know, and we testify to what we have seen, but still you people do not accept our testimony. 12I have spoken to you of earthly things and you do not believe; how then will you believe if I speak of heavenly things? 13No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven—the Son of Man. 14Just as Moses lifted up the snake in the desert, so the Son of Man must be lifted up, 15that everyone who believes in him may have eternal life. 16"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. 18Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God's one and only Son. 19This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. 20Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that his deeds will be exposed. 21But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what he has done has been done through God."
 
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Something is definitely going on around here. Hearing noises, things moving, waking up at three, hearing clear voices in the middle of the night, with no visible people.

I wonder how the ghouls adjust to time zones.

Last night while trying to sleep I was seeing something akin to the grim reaper. I don't really know why, but I got busy doing this:bow::pray: Oh it was nasty, but I know it left when I asked Jesus to put the smack down on it:p
 
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Feel free. Meanwhile, I will stick to what it actually says, rather than looking for hidden codes.

Each to his own.

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Sorry for belaboring the point, but I do believe this is important here, especially since this is the Dreams and Visions forum and this forum is specific to hearing from God via codes and symbolism. What do you believe Jesus meant here by his response to the disciples' question when they asked him why he spoke in parables?

Matthew 13:10-17:

10The disciples came to him and asked, "Why do you speak to the people in parables?"
11He replied, "The knowledge of the secrets of the kingdom of heaven has been given to you, but not to them. 12Whoever has will be given more, and he will have an abundance. Whoever does not have, even what he has will be taken from him. 13This is why I speak to them in parables:
"Though seeing, they do not see;
though hearing, they do not hear or understand. 14In them is fulfilled the prophecy of Isaiah:
" 'You will be ever hearing but never understanding;
you will be ever seeing but never perceiving.
15For this people's heart has become calloused;
they hardly hear with their ears,
and they have closed their eyes.
Otherwise they might see with their eyes,
hear with their ears,
understand with their hearts
and turn, and I would heal them.' 16But blessed are your eyes because they see, and your ears because they hear. 17For I tell you the truth, many prophets and righteous men longed to see what you see but did not see it, and to hear what you hear but did not hear it.
 
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Last night while trying to sleep I was seeing somthing akin to the grim reaper. I have no clue why, but I got busy doing this:bow::pray: Oh it was nasty, but I know it left when I got serious with it:p

Whoa!! God is good. We are already equipped with what is necessary...the enemy attempts to distract us with their big bad ol' nasty selves, all the while dreading if we get our Abba in on it...for as we know God is in the midst of our praise, amen?

We are not in this alone, praise His name, our Defender, and ver present Help in times of troubl, amen!!! :clap:
 
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Last night while trying to sleep I was seeing something akin to the grim reaper. I don't really know why, but I got busy doing this Oh it was nasty, but I know it left when I asked Jesus to put the smack down on it
Wow! What is going on!

Maybe it is related to the invasion dream thread.
We are not in this alone, praise His name, our Defender, and very present Help in times of troubl, amen!!!
No Fear!
 
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thank you...it represents for me how God is our Redeemer and is surely always ferociously coming to our rescue....and how we are to be as He is, always on the alert, and ferociously fighting the good fight :clap:
 
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been reading this thread with great interest.


It is true that Jesus died bodily at 3pm or thereabouts.
So, logically I would think that 3am is the opposite, when the devil is the most active.
God is active All the time, so it is comforting to hear that folk have had God talk to them at this time.
But for me, I have been woken around 3am, a few weeks back it was quite regular. thankfully, not now.
anyhow, it was when I was filled with self doubt and worry at this time in the morning.
My non-christian colleagues and friends have been woken at this time, or woke themselves.
Apparantly it is the hour that most people die.....! :o
 
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Apparantly it is the hour that most people die.....!
I was up between 3 and 4 nearly every day last week. Last week all those celebrities died. Glad I didn't suddenly become famous. (-;

It is good to remember to pray, even when our nudge is too slight to motivate ourselves.
 
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