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What's the point? Evolution...

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First, with the spaghetti god thing... The next time you bring your sugar high in the room, bring lollipops for the rest of the class "child". Your rhetoric have no place here. I have a good sense of humor but that was just idiotic and bad taste. Save it for someone who will be impressed.

Next, no I didn't stray from the topic and if I did not by much. I want to know how you account for all the material around and in you. All this matter came from somewhere. The matter you say evolved somehow by itself. We can approximate when but not truly and definitively where it came from. There will never be enough proof for either argument anyway. Not in this life anyway. I am a Christian not by proof but by faith. Same as you ( atheist by faith ), not by proof... At best all these things pointing toward our coming from monkeys, fish or sludge pools of whatever are not proof. Vague pictures to give you hope that life has no consequences or meaning is all they are.

If you want to believe you are here for absolutely no reason other than to take up space, that's your choice. I would hate think of my life that way. It saddens me but you are not my burden. I'll pray for you as I do for anyone who is not saved but that's as much as you will effect my life.


Also this is for every Atheist reading and posting!!! I started this post in the interest of fellowship with other christians. "Any suggestion for literature along the same lines?" Just because you came along and thought it was your duty to run a Satan parade in here doesn't change the intent of the forum. You may call it what you want but in my faith I call it as I sees it. I'll break it down for you since you seem to retain propaganda but lack comprehension. First reread the original post. Ah... Sounded a lot like a call for others of the same belief to point me in the direction of literature to further my understanding God's complexity. Biased it may be but that is my interest. So get off of your high horse - And next time don't "YOU" change the subject. I don't care who posts in here but get "YOUR" facts straight.

God Bless
 
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I am not an atheist, but the evidence for evolution and big bang are vast and their acceptance within the scientific community is near universal. Science is reality, not atheism. When almost everybody who studies nature comes to the same conclusion, there are likely to be very good reasons for that.
 
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I want to know how you account for all the material around and in you. All this matter came from somewhere. The matter you say evolved somehow by itself.

How dense can you be? Did you read anything in this thread at all? When has anyone claimed that "matter evolved somehow by itself"? That doesn't even make sense.

Also, if you don't want a discussion or debate, why did you post in the discussion and debate forums? There's creationist forums elsewhere on this site where you're free to bury your head in the sand.
 
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How dense can you be? Did you read anything in this thread at all? When has anyone claimed that "matter evolved somehow by itself"? That doesn't even make sense.


Yeah well, that is my point. How dense can you be?
 
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I am interested in what you have to say. But that wasn't what I started this about. Further science knowledge that points to creation was the original point so bash if you like but you are in the wrong forum for it. Technically.
 
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How dense can you be? Did you read anything in this thread at all? When has anyone claimed that "matter evolved somehow by itself"? That doesn't even make sense.


Yeah well, that is my point. How dense can you be?
I want to account for the technology around you. Why didn't jesus give us rocket ships when he was here. why did it take 2000 years to invent them. If the bible was right, we would ahve had rocket ships for 2500 years. how could anyone believe the bible when we sent our first rocket into space about 50 years ago?
 
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I am interested in what you have to say. But that wasn't what I started this about. Further science knowledge that points to creation was the original point so bash if you like but you are in the wrong forum for it. Technically.
No, science does not. Unless you define science as "random websites that i found that happen to agree with me without any verifiable claims or data" that you and your lady friend seem so fond of posting.
 
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How do you think humans had the capacity to learn to do that? You "think" it is evolution. I "believe" it was trial and error.
why didn't jesus give us rockets 2000 years ago. why did we have to learn it? christians say jesus can't exist if he didn't bring rockets with him 2000 years ago, so why do you believe in jesus since it's clear he didn't bring rockets with him.
 
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Like I was saying... Read "Case for Faith" and talk to those (probably) much more educated than you and see where their claims come from.
Way to change the subject. I'll read that when you read "The Blind Watchmaker". Do you know what claiming that people think that "matter somehow evolved by itself" is? It's lying. Let me repeat that:

L Y I N G

Doesn't your God have something to say about that?
 
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How do you think humans had the capacity to learn to do that? You "think" it is evolution. I "believe" it was trial and error.

Trial and error? What do you mean? Omnipotent God needed to practice things to get them right?
 
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So, since these words are obviously falling on deaf ears reread #221 and try very hard to comprehend the point. I'm sure you can do it if you try really hard. You want to argue and I elect to find better things to do with my time.
 
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