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In my personal opinion, I wouldn't let anyone try to diagnose you with any form of autism. I don't believe it applies to all situations, but I think doctors are motivated by money to wrongly diagnose a person and give them drugs they don't need.
 
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Seeing one's self as a victim really has nothing to do with being diagnosed. Millions of people struggle with various mental and behavioral issues and don't feel like victims of anything. The current - what I'd call - victimhood epidemic that we've seen in the past several years, is not traditionally how mental illness has been viewed or handled. People crying about being traumatized every time the sun doesn't shine or they hit a red traffic light, should honestly be ignored and not even included in the conversation. They're overgrown toddlers who will continue to tantrum and wallow in mental infancy until they realize they aren't getting coddled and pampered anymore.

Most people that I've encountered, read about, and talked to - as well as myself and my own mental struggles - don't feel victimized or want to sit around feeling weak and helpless and entitled. We want to feel as normal and functional and healthy as possible. Without knowing WHAT is wrong, how can one work towards improving it? Without proper diagnoses, you may have people who feel broken, disconnected, crazy, because they know SOMETHING is off, but not WHAT it is.

I've seen you ping-pong repeatedly in claiming that you need/want/are going to get help, and then flipping around and saying you're fine, you can handle it, therapy doesn't help, there's no point. I'm not going to encourage you anymore because it's futile to do so. You decide, and then you act. It's all on you.
 
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In my personal opinion, I wouldn't let anyone try to diagnose you with any form of autism. I don't believe it applies to all situations, but I think doctors are motivated by money to wrongly diagnose a person and give them drugs they don't need.
As someone's been studying this, and working with the population for many years, there are definitely two sides to this.

Autism is very real. I have my own personal beliefs about why it's become an explosive epidemic in the past 20 years, but that's just my own opinion.

Over-diagnosing and recklessly diagnosing autism is also a problem. It was sort of the first big "trend" in seeing how rapidly and uncontrollably people, and the medical community, were jumping on a medical diagnosis bandwagon. Kids who simply had ordinary behavioral issues were slapped with the label because it was trendy, and it was lucrative. People were going online and taking "self diagnosing" tests and then proclaiming themselves "on the spectrum" so they could feel special and get attention and join the hordes of online support groups. So, this very real disorder has been somewhat hijacked, and that's damaged the reputability of the whole thing.

That said, I'm not going to tell anyone that they aren't or couldn't be on the autism spectrum. If someone has genuine, documented struggles with socializing, communicating, neurological, or sensory issues, I think they should seek out a reputable, established, trustworthy professional, and find out more.
 
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i agree
Yeah, those aren't real victims, but there are lots of people who use their diagnoses as a victim. They exist.
That is great. I’m so happy to hear there’s so many fighters! But that’s not everyone. Nor was it ever me.

I am acting. I made appointment. Just like you asked. I hope it's a good fit. I know the last guy wasn't. He tried to trivialize it & make a joke of it. He didn't understand the hurt. This one may be more helpful.
I do believe the pastor is a great source of help. I'm not budging on that stance. You're not always going to see victories no matter how much help you're getting, you'll see some steps forward, some backward.
 
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In my personal opinion, I wouldn't let anyone try to diagnose you with any form of autism. I don't believe it applies to all situations, but I think doctors are motivated by money to wrongly diagnose a person and give them drugs they don't need.
I’m not sure what good a diagnosis does. I know people who’ve been diagnosed w/ it from all walks of life. It’s hard for me to see how the diagnosis actually made a difference in their life other than ‘okay I’m in this box of people.’ Most were quite functioning & happy as children & are very functional as adults. I do think it’s just another ‘they’re not jocks, so let’s create a category for the ‘weird’ people.’ If it wasn’t for this one issue I struggle with, I really really wouldn't even bother thinking about it.

When I look at diagnostic lists, there’s traits I have but traits I definitely do not have, & in my opinion, those are the defining traits. When I see an anxiety list - I think 'yes I have or have had all those'
 
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Sorry for the triple-posting. I hope I don't get banned.
Would you be able to go into the history some? Were people just accepted as ‘weird’ or are there truly more ‘weird’ people? I hear different things from different people & sources & so am wondering your thoughts on it, please.
 
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That's sad. Can you try to change it maybe?

I do have an idea on what to do about the work-related one. I hope my boss agrees with me and allows it.

Another one concerning family - I did have some say in it. What we ended up agreeing on was better than the original proposal, but I just feel like I can't deal with my family.
 
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I do have an idea on what to do about the work-related one. I hope my boss agrees with me and allows it.
Ah, work. Yes, that is trickier to change.
Another one concerning family - I did have some say in it. What we ended up agreeing on was better than the original proposal, but I just feel like I can't deal with my family.
A lot of people can't. You're not alone. Not that that helps. But that you made a better proposal & were able to change it a bit. That is good!
 
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I have a praise!

We were able to talk w/ no anger, friendly, normal, as if nothing ever happened! The healing is happening
 
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I am acting. I made appointment. Just like you asked. I hope it's a good fit. I know the last guy wasn't. He tried to trivialize it & make a joke of it. He didn't understand the hurt. This one may be more helpful.
That is definitely an immediate red flag. Any therapist who doesn't treat you and your concerns with absolute respect, is not likely to be a good fit.
 
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You may not see the differences made because those are other people, not you. And you don't see every aspect of their lives or their thoughts or their experiences. Be humble.

Most mental, behavioral, and personality disorders are all spectrums. Few people tick all the boxes, every single time. That's why proper diagnosing looks at the incidents of behaviors/thoughts/issues over a span of time, not just "how do you feel today?" And every person is unique and individual. Lists of traits are like lists of symptoms for anything else; not everyone is going to experience all of them in every case.
 
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You may not see the differences made because those are other people, not you. And you don't see every aspect of their lives or their thoughts or their experiences. Be humble.
True. I know some got help. I know some just got the diagnosis & didn't bother w/ help, tho do I know they struggled some (but were & are functional nonetheless) (not sure why they didn't get help, but they didn't, we didn't & don't talk about it)

Yeah but defining traits? IDK.
 
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That's cool. Are you a musician, 55?

Yes and no, lol. Yesterday, though, I was just mainly working on organizing my music files on my computer and iPod.
 
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