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It’s inconsistent to me historians accept Paul as a living, breathing apostle, & Paul’s letters are authentic, but they say the other NT books are ghost written. Why not just make the leap & say Paul’s letters are ghost-written too? If they’re tossing out apostles saying they didn’t really exist, why not toss out Paul too?

Listening to a secular source on the development of the NT. Drives me nuts. I just wanted to bring up that one b/c I've never brought up that one before.
 
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Put myself waaaay out there and agreed to go to an emo karaoke night with a guy from my small group and his friends. Nervous, excited… but what do I wear??

We’re supposed to dress punk/emo. To demonstrate how clueless I am on this genre, my current plan is to wear my Harley Quinn outfit… helllpppp!
 
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If you're doing Emo, you want like a striped long-sleeved undershirt, hello kitty tshirt with a black jacket, black pants, or stripey tights with shorts, if the stripes don't match, all the better, lots of black eye makeup, big straight hair.

Google "scene girl" and you'll see what I mean.
 
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No hello kitty shirt and just got rid of my sword art online shirt think I might lean more punk than emo… maybe tie with a graphic tee like my girl Avril.
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I'm so excited I hit 1,000 subscribers today!
 
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Going to spend most of my weekend reading and relaxing. I have Monday off!
 
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I'm enjoying the rain here in Southern California. Of course, we were promised LIGHTNING storms and none have manifested over my house so I am salty.

I thought it never rains in Southern California.

 
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I was recently thinking how I have commonly heard this mantra among adherents to manmade religion..”Jesus was a friend of sinners”. Never really gave much thought to it before. Lately I decided to actually look further into the matter and see what God’s word has to say. Jesus speaking in Luke 7:34:

“The Son of man is come eating and drinking; and ye say, Behold a gluttonous man, and a winebibber, a friend of publicans and sinners!”


Jesus said “and ye say”. Clearly it was His Pharisee enemies who gave Him the title ‘friend of sinners’. But manmade corporate denominational religion took that verse out of context and ran with it as part of their business model. A Jesus who appears soft on sin is more appealing to the world and carnally minded professed believers and will bring more of them to the pews, and bring more money to the collection plates. This mantra is nothing but a means to grow the brand of manmade corporate religion.

If manmade corporate religion is going to refer to Jesus a ‘friend of sinners’ they may as well also call him a glutton and winebibber (drunkard). Modern CEO pastors, ‘Christian’ youtube hustlers, and other profiteers rely on people to not actually read and study the scriptures on their own, it is actually very concerning and disturbing how deep and far the deception goes. I say this out of love and concern.
 
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I think this could be an interesting discussion. I agree with you that we need to be careful to avoid "friendship" with non-Christians. I think it is more accurate to say that Christ showed compassion and a love for sinners than it is to say he shared a friendship. To me the word friendship implies a relationship of mutual appreciation and a sharing of some interests/values. Christ went to where the outcasts were gathering /congregating to reach them. While he was in their presence, he was evangelizing them; not partaking in their sins. I think he went out of his way to be in their company, obviously, to reach them and also to make a statement: that he had come to redeem all the lost. I think that was especially significant in the Jewish culture that focused on outward observance of the law. The sinners that Christ was "befriending" were being shunned by the religious society of the day. Contrary to many situations today, these sinners weren't popular or beloved. They were being shunned and would be considered undesirables. I think he was extending mercy to them publicly to show the true nature of the gospel. He was also able to be very gentle to these sinners, because they already knew the ramifications of their lifestyle. Tax collectors/harlots, etc weren't going to be the ones who were self-righteous. He had to be much stronger with his language when he confronted the religious leaders. I don't think we should attribute his gentleness with these sinners to his approval of their sins.

I think where this can get tricky is that as his disciples we are supposed to emulate Christ's behavior. I think we should be outreach focused and be willing to share the gospel with everyone (regardless of their sins/social positions, etc). That may require us at times to go into unpleasant situations or environments to have the opportunity to talk to others. The key though is that the Son of God was above temptation and was able to be around sinners without partaking in their sins. As Christians, we are not above temptation. We have to be very careful to avoid the deception that we are reaching others while we are actually being influenced/corrupted by them. So, I do agree with you that it's a very dangerous mindset to fall into: Christ was friends with sinners so I can be too. I also agree that the Pharisees said this about Christ in an attempt to discredit his ministry. Christ never referred to himself as the friend of sinners. He clearly stated that his mission was to redeem the lost sheep. That should be our focus as well.
 
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Yes I wanted to mention that part but forgot to include it, Jesus was kind and compassionate towards sinners. Born from above believers should definitely also have the same approach since Paul and Jesus are the format for our conduct. For someone like myself who came from a very worldly pagan/cultural ‘Christian’ sin embracing background, who couldn’t tell you what repentance or rebirth was..all that actually provides an advantage in a way because I understand exactly how and why people get caught up in many of the sins they do and it is so easy to get caught up in/indoctrinated into the ways of the fallen world. So I’ve seen and been in many situations and sins those whom came from a Christian background/upbringing may have never had to deal with.

I’ve heard this ‘friend of sinners’ claim many times and although I can understand why people buy into that line, it really isn’t the best way to put it. Merciful towards sinners/concerned for their souls would be more accurate. Looking back on some of the trash from the past both as a pagan and a backslider God surely did have much mercy on me. The way which denominational manmade religion, modern pastors/YouTube hustlers put it though makes it seem as if Jesus was no different from the sinners, partying with them and embracing the world’s culture. A sort of ‘let’s make God one of us’ kind of mentality. Some even twist the water to wine miracle Jesus performed as an excuse for getting drunk. While nothing is in scripture at all which says consuming alcohol is sin, it is quite obvious that drunkenness is 1 Corinthians 6:10. Scripture always interprets scripture.

It is definitely true Christians are not above temptation, I know from experience. Out in the world it lies around every corner and the devil has had thousands of years to study human weakness. He also knows how to twist scripture out of context. Which is why I find the carnally focused unrepentant believers more dangerous than pagans or atheists..particularly when I was a noob convert heavily lacking in some things. They had me thinking such and such is ok, and it just led to things that were obviously not ok. But an atheist or a pagan wouldn’t be able to hold such influence over me as a professing believer. I made the mistake early on of having more trust for professed believers, modern pastors, youtube hustlers..until I started digging deeper into the scriptures for myself.

I am glad you mentioned outreach, it is part of our service to God, part of His will for our lives, and need to do better on that myself. But it can be difficult because whether it be unrepentant professed believers, pagans, or atheists they typically just shrug it all off. They all believe since many of the sins they commit which they don’t even view as sin are socially acceptable and they aren’t murderers or rapists or armed robbers or whatever they’re good to go. As long as they are ‘good people’..they’re all set for paradise. The worst of the bunch are the unrepentant very worldly and carnally fixated professed believers who never even look at scripture..their Christian school upbringing and being baptized as a denominational adherent by some freemason modern pastor in their preteens has them on the road to paradise in their mind. Sometimes I think all I can do is just pray for such people that God will have what happened to me one day happen to them..which was a very humbling and attention grabbing experience that led to my conversion. But people still have to use their own free will.
 
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