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LOL that was a good one. Although I hate coconuts. I don't know how people eat coconut!

Lost to history was a Polynesian genius who discovered gravity long before Isaac Newton did.

...Only he discovered it while sitting underneath a coconut tree...
 
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Sigh.. lol.

I guess I'll have to come up with an equivalent joke on my own.

As for me, this equivalent strategy has helped curbed a lot of heightist bigotry I've faced from people. People say it's shallow and stupid, yet it legitimately works.

Although any time I make any progress in my life, it's by following my own thoughts and intuitions and not listening to other people. Especially other people who do not have anywhere near the best intentions for me in mind. We're a generation that screams "equality!" and I am looking for exactly that. Equal sounding jokes for both gender's body image problems.
 
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Sigh.. lol.

I guess I'll have to come up with an equivalent joke on my own.

*Looks down at the ground while looking disappointed in myself*

I tried, man, I really tried...
 
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*Looks down at the ground while looking disappointed in myself*

I tried, man, I really tried...

Sorry, they're just no use for me.

Part of the beauty of equivalent jokes is even many SJW cannot pretend that double standards are justified against shorter men.
 
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I'm just glad I never have to care about women's feelings when it comes to their body image issues. If anyone gets angry at that, they're trying to argue for inequality.
 
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Don't ever expect for me to have any compassion or care for women's body issues when you do not have any for mine. As for me, the lid is closed on that one. I was body shamed for my height for years, I'm never going to all of a sudden have compassion for other people's body image issues. For me equality is making sure everyone is equally mocked and thrown in the gutter. It's the only realistic equality I can ever hope to achieve.

Of course people will call me a bigot for it. Like how dare I not want a society where only short men can be mocked. How dare I want to direct the angry steam into multiple directions so short men do not receive the brunt of it..

Meh, I would have thought that because you have been mocked and shamed for your height, you would empathize and have the most compassion for other's who also struggle with their body.
 
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Meh, I would have thought that because you have been mocked and shamed for your height, you would empathize and have the most compassion for other's who also struggle with their body.

You'd think.

Then I grew up and realized there were actually campaigns to help people with their body image. The only thing being is that short men were/are excluded from such things.
 
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You'd think.

Then I grew up and realized there were actually campaigns to help people with their body image. The only thing being is that short men were/are excluded from such things.

I don't know that they are intentionally excluded. To be honest, I didn't realize there was a stigma around shorter men until I read your posts. I guess in my own life I have known a lot of shorter men where I didn't see it as being a problem for them. They always had girlfriends and I can't say I heard many jokes made.

What I mean to say is that I understand what is it like to be mocked and shamed for your physical appearance and I am sorry that it's something you've had to go through. Especially if your insecurity is underrepresented. It's taken a long time for a lot of the campaigns you see for other body issues to gain such a large platform. It doesn't mean those are more important or that your concerns aren't relevant. But hating on other groups isn't going to get the recognition you want.

For example the plus size community is getting a lot of media cover and social support right now. However that doesn't mean that you have to belittle and mock them simply because you issue isn't getting the same recognition. Speaking out is important and you should be heard. But that really doesn't need to include being hateful towards other groups.
 
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I don't know that they are intentionally excluded. To be honest, I didn't realize there was a stigma around shorter men until I read your posts. I guess in my own life I have known a lot of shorter men where I didn't see it as being a problem for them. They always had girlfriends and I can't say I heard many jokes made.

What I mean to say is that I understand what is it like to be mocked and shamed for your physical appearance and I am sorry that it's something you've had to go through. Especially if your insecurity is underrepresented. It's taken a long time for a lot of the campaigns you see for other body issues to gain such a large platform. It doesn't mean those are more important or that your concerns aren't relevant. But hating on other groups isn't going to get the recognition you want.

For example the plus size community is getting a lot of media cover and social support right now. However that doesn't mean that you have to belittle and mock them simply because you issue isn't getting the same recognition. Speaking out is important and you should be heard. But that really doesn't need to include being hateful towards other groups.

But they claim to be fighting for everyone's body image issues then they ignore shorter men. Many of them also personally engage in short shaming themselves.

I just read a Buzzfeed article pretending to care about body shaming. Yet the article constantly featured subtle jabs at shorter people. Then I read the comment section (keep in mind that Buzzfeed is known for it's feminism and body positivity) and the comment section is filled with women commenting how superior taller men are and how gross shorter men are. This is what the body positive base sadly often looks like.
 
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But they claim to be fighting for everyone's body image issues then they ignore shorter men. Many of them also personally engage in short shaming themselves.

I just read a Buzzfeed article pretending to care about body shaming. Yet the article constantly featured subtle jabs at shorter people. Then I read the comment section (keep in mind that Buzzfeed is known for it's feminism and body positivity) and the comment section is filled with women commenting how superior taller men are and how gross shorter men are. This is what the body positive base sadly often looks like.

Oh, I understand that it isn't fair. And I'm sure there are lots of groups that are still being underrepresented besides shorter men. But my point is just that being hateful towards all plus size women isn't going to get you any type of positive recognition.

Body positivity isn't something that has been around for years and years. It's relatively new. And you're right, it isn't all inclusive... yet. But it is a possibility.

Side note here, why are you going on Buzzfeed in the first place? You and I both know that it is supported, funded and lives off the lifeblood of SJW's. Soooo... why visit?
 
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Oh, I understand that it isn't fair. And I'm sure there are lots of groups that are still being underrepresented besides shorter men. But my point is just that being hateful towards all plus size women isn't going to get you any type of positive recognition.

Body positivity isn't something that has been around for years and years. It's relatively new. And you're right, it isn't all inclusive... yet. But it is a possibility.

If this were a singular event maybe I'd be more understanding. But when it come to men, feminist circles always try to not give us our fair share of representation. The idea that women at large will ever care about the feelings of short men is just simply unbelievable in my opinion.

Side note here, why are you going on Buzzfeed in the first place? You and I both know that it is supported, funded and lives off the lifeblood of SJW's. Soooo... why visit?

Because I want to be informed what a large part of the millennial population is digesting.
 
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But they claim to be fighting for everyone's body image issues then they ignore shorter men. Many of them also personally engage in short shaming themselves.

Oh, I understand that it isn't fair. And I'm sure there are lots of groups that are still being underrepresented besides shorter men.

There's worse things than being short. While being short is considered unattractive to many, having autism practically makes you a second class citizen. It's harder to get jobs, harder to have friends, harder to even function in general, more likely to be abused and taken advantaged of, companies like Autism Speaks portray autistics as a menace to society, people use the word 'autism' as an insult synonymously with the word 'stupid', and if you were born in the wrong place at the wrong time you would end up in a mental institution and forgotten about by your family or dead because you just simply either a burden on society or they thought you were possessed by evil spirits.

I'd much rather be below average height than to have a neurology that literally makes me a giant target for a very real kind of persecution. Count your blessings.
 
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There's worse things than being short. While being short is considered unattractive to many, having autism practically makes you a second class citizen. It's harder to get jobs, harder to have friends, harder to even function in general, more likely to be abused and taken advantaged of, companies like Autism Speaks portray autistics as a menace to society, people use the word 'autism' as an insult synonymously with the word 'stupid', and if you were born in the wrong place at the wrong time you would end up in a mental institution and forgotten about by your family or dead because you just simply either a burden on society or they thought you were possessed by evil spirits.

I'd much rather be below average height than to have a neurology that literally makes me a giant target for a very real kind of persecution. Count your blessings.

What are you suggesting from this post? That I forget all the crap I get for being short?
 
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If this were a singular event maybe I'd be more understanding. But when it come to men, feminist circles always try to not give us our fair share of representation. The idea that women at large will ever care about the feelings of short men is just simply unbelievable in my opinion.



Because I want to be informed what a large part of the millennial population is digesting.

Feminists, sure.
However not all women are feminists. And so you stating that you refuse to care about the body image concerns of women is directing your anger in the wrong place. You can choose not to believe that women will care to give you your fair representation. But it may be, for example in my own case, that a lot of women are simply unaware that it is an issue. A lot of women like tall men. But there are a fair share of women who like, are dating and are married to (thus I assume are attracted to) shorter men.

I used to be plus sized. I am still chunky...curvy...whatever you'd like to call it. I have a lot of friends who are plus sized and I'm sure you'd refer to as fat. Besides my size, I am simply a woman.
I have never bashed or shamed shorter men so I'm just unsure why you feel the need to publicly bash and shame people like me.
 
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Feminists, sure.
However not all women are feminists. And so you stating that you refuse to care about the body image concerns of women is directing your anger in the wrong place. You can choose not to believe that women will care to give you your fair representation. But it may be, for example in my own case, that a lot of women are simply unaware that it is an issue. A lot of women like tall men. But there are a fair share of women who like, are dating and are married to (thus I assume are attracted to) shorter men.

I used to be plus sized. I am still chunky...curvy...whatever you'd like to call it. I have a lot of friends who are plus sized and I'm sure you'd refer to as fat. Besides my size, I am simply a woman.
I have never bashed or shamed shorter men so I'm just unsure why you feel the need to publicly bash and shame people like me.

How can you not be aware that shorter men face issues like this? You acknowledge that women prefer taller men and you didn't think this would cause problems for men who don't fit that ideal?

And yeah, I should probably extend beyond the term feminist. I know of many anti-feminist men who often go on rants about how much they hate short men.
 
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How can you not be aware that shorter men face issues like this? You acknowledge that women prefer taller men and you didn't think this would cause problems for men who don't fit that ideal?

And yeah, I should probably extend beyond the term feminist. I know of many anti-feminist men who often go on rants about how much they hate short men.

I acknowledged that some women prefer tall men just as some women prefer short men.
I was saying that I personally know a lot of women who also are indifferent when it comes to height.
I was not personally aware of the issues shorter men fact because, like I said, I know a lot of men who are shorter and I haven't seen a lot of discrimination towards them personally. I'm not saying it doesn't exist, but simply that I hadn't seen it. Like you and I agreed on, there is an underrepresentation in the media.
 
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What are you suggesting from this post? That I forget all the crap I get for being short?

What have they done to you for being short, besides refusing to go on dates with you?
 
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You'd think.

Then I grew up and realized there were actually campaigns to help people with their body image. The only thing being is that short men were/are excluded from such things.
Hey, my advice is to stop reading all the awful buzz feed articles or SJW sites you come across. It's not healthy to always expose yourself to the ignorant and rude opinions of others. Their opinion is of no value and they aren't a good cross section of normal women. You know they are horrible and mean, so why give their trash the time of day ?

Think about the fact that some of the most attractive or popular actors are only average height or shorter. Tom Cruise is 5'7", Robert Downey Jr is 5'8" and there are a lot more. I doubt many women would consider them too short to date, lol.
 
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