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[Ubuntu]

Yeah I can agree with this. I'm not sure where I fall when it comes to this. I used to be very pre-trib and my church teaches and believes pre-trib, but there's just so much room for error in those verses. I know there's verses about us being 'caught up' (literally: raptured) and meet with Christ in the clouds. But I'm not sure why we meet Him in the clouds, only to come back to earth lol.

You're right that this is a difficult question, the chronology of the last events aren't necessarily easy to follow.

Personally I don't believe in a rapture in the sense that people all of a sudden will vanish in thin air, leaving everyone else on Earth behind. And I do believe that the children of God has to endure a time of testing before his return, we will clearly experience tribulations. (I agree with @Swan7, tribulations and the wrath of God are two different things. God's wrath is reserved for the wicked. Difficult topic, but I digress...)

Saucy, you do have a point, though. It's stated that Jesus will return in the clouds, and that we will be "caught up [...] in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air." (1 Thessalonians 4:17.) Jesus says that he will return to take us to heaven (John 14:1-4), which is the place where Jesus is today, the celestial New Jerusalem, which is a literal and tangible reality.

So how do we reconcile all of this with the promise that we're going to inhabit a New Earth?

A simple answer is that Jesus first will bring the children of God to heaven, where we'll stay during the 1000 years spoken of in Revelation 20:4. After these 1000 years, there will be a final judgment of the wicked and the New Jerusalem will descend from heaven to Earth. (Revelation 21:1-4) When the Earth thus finally is purified and recreated, it will be the dwelling place of the redeemed for eternity.

 

[Saucy]

Wow I got my book royalty for the month today. I made a whole $.36! On my way to saving for Ireland!

 

[alsughasoughaiuyfygh]

Wow I got my book royalty for the month today. I made a whole $.36! On my way to saving for Ireland!

I bet you can buy the most luxurious gumball with those royalties!

Be sure to blow a bubble for me.

 

[Saucy]

I bet you can buy the most luxurious gumball with those royalties!

Be sure to blow a bubble for me.

Hey, it's called inflation. That will only buy half a gumball haha

 

[alsughasoughaiuyfygh]

Hey, it's called inflation. That will only buy half a gumball haha

You mean they don't cost $0.25 anymore?! Good gravy, I want the good ol' days back!

 

[alsughasoughaiuyfygh]

That moment when you're shopping with your mom, and there's a cute girl right next to you in the aisle. And your mom turns out you and says, "OH! We're low on Gas-X!"

You never seem to get a break from awkward moments, do you?

 

[EyesOfKohl]

This coming week will determine the year for me I think, God willing.

 

[PunkyChick]

Well I managed to do some small bit of writing today. Finished the rough draft of a web serial, at least the first season/10 episodes. Wish I could write more but my headphones broke on me and that kinda threw me out of the mood because I really liked these headphones. Anyway now I just need to get up the courage to show a few people for feedback before I do a massive rewrite.

 

[LoveDivine]

Really bad day. Went in for my MRI results on my wrist and turns out it's not a cyst, it's a super rare disease that's starved my bone to death. On top of that, in my trying to be tough despite it hurting, I've broken it. Doctors are discussing what to do, but sounds like in all likelihood I'm gonna be in pain for the rest of my life and lose function in my left wrist/hand.

To top it off, went to start my car after and it wouldn't go. When it rains...

That's horrible I'm so sorry. Maybe you can do other forms of cardio like swimming or running.

 

[mojoboy31]

Really bad day. Went in for my MRI results on my wrist and turns out it's not a cyst, it's a super rare disease that's starved my bone to death. On top of that, in my trying to be tough despite it hurting, I've broken it. Doctors are discussing what to do, but sounds like in all likelihood I'm gonna be in pain for the rest of my life and lose function in my left wrist/hand.

To top it off, went to start my car after and it wouldn't go. When it rains...

I somehow missed this post. I'm so sorry. hang in there, praying for you.

 

[Toro]

Wow I got my book royalty for the month today. I made a whole $.36! On my way to saving for Ireland!

Perception is everything.

Move to Mexico and those royalties are a bus ride and about 4 pitchers of cerveza..... all you have to do is become Senor Saucy.

Just remember.........

Uno mas por favor. (One more please)

Alto (for the bus to "stop".)

Banjo? (bathroom)

Thats all I've ever needed to get by when I've been across the border.

 

[Swan7]

An simple answer is that Jesus first will bring the children of God to heaven, where we'll stay during the 1000 years spoken of in Revelation 20:4. After these 1000 years, there will be a final judgment of the wicked and the New Jerusalem will descend from heaven to Earth. (Revelation 21:1-4) When the Earth thus finally is purified and recreated, it will be the dwelling place of the redeemed for eternity.

Also to touch up on this, Jesus explained the patches and wine skins, which is another way to describe what you were curious about, @Saucy.
Matthew 9:14-17

I know this is talking about fasting, but it also reminds me of this: Matthew 24:32-35

What I'm trying to get at is that He makes all things new.

 

[Saucy]

Perception is everything.

Move to Mexico and those royalties are a bus ride and about 4 pitchers of cerveza..... all you have to do is become Senor Saucy.

Just remember.........

Uno mas por favor. (One more please)

Alto (for the bus to "stop".)

Banjo? (bathroom)

Thats all I've ever needed to get by when I've been across the border.

Nah the second the Mexican president heard I was coming, he'd call up Trump and go, "okay, we'll pay for the wall. We dont have enough guacamole in the whole country."

 

[CodyFaith]

Really bad day. Went in for my MRI results on my wrist and turns out it's not a cyst, it's a super rare disease that's starved my bone to death. On top of that, in my trying to be tough despite it hurting, I've broken it. Doctors are discussing what to do, but sounds like in all likelihood I'm gonna be in pain for the rest of my life and lose function in my left wrist/hand.

To top it off, went to start my car after and it wouldn't go. When it rains...

Very sorry to hear Ariel.

 

[EyesOfKohl]

Really bad day. Went in for my MRI results on my wrist and turns out it's not a cyst, it's a super rare disease that's starved my bone to death. On top of that, in my trying to be tough despite it hurting, I've broken it. Doctors are discussing what to do, but sounds like in all likelihood I'm gonna be in pain for the rest of my life and lose function in my left wrist/hand.

To top it off, went to start my car after and it wouldn't go. When it rains...

So sorry to hear I will pray for you. My God be your guardian!

 

[Toro]

Nah the second the Mexican president heard I was coming, he'd call up Trump and go, "okay, we'll pay for the wall. We dont have enough guacamole in the whole country."

Well, beats the American tax payer paying for the silly thing.

So lets get this done.

Actually while we are on border issues..

I think America should just swallow up Canada that way we have no border to our north......Canadians look like they could use some freedom............. of course I have selfish reasons for wanting the northern border gone

 

[ReesePiece23]

You mean they don't cost $0.25 anymore?! Good gravy, I want the good ol' days back!

Back in my day, you could get two loaves of bread, three quarts of milk, an ouce of salted butter, a slab of beef dripping, a pound of bacon, a dozen eggs, and a copy of The Telegraph for 0.25.

With change for the gumball machine.

 

[alsughasoughaiuyfygh]

Back in my day, you could get two loaves of bread, three quarts of milk, an ouce of salted butter, a slab of beef dripping, a pound of bacon, a dozen eggs, and a copy of The Telegraph for 0.25.

With change for the gumball machine.

My co-worker actually told me that back in the 1940's, you could get a movie ticket, a bag of popcorn, a drink, and still have money leftover to play some pool.

I can only imagine what being a millionaire in those days was like...

 

[Saucy]

I think I might be down on the wall now. Just thinking about it, and debating here on CF...it's becoming more and more silly to me and a waste of money.

 

[Toro]

Back in my day, you could get two loaves of bread, three quarts of milk, an ouce of salted butter, a slab of beef dripping, a pound of bacon, a dozen eggs, and a copy of The Telegraph for 0.25.

With change for the gumball machine.

HA In my day we didnt have gumballs........ all we had was dirt and we were thankful for that dirt to chew