What Would Falsify the Flood?

[lasthero]

You guys complain they aren't at the bottom, now you're whining they aren't at the top.

It's just me. I'm just trying to make sense of it. You proposed an answer that wasn't anymore consistent with their place in the fossil record than before.

My calculator must not be working.

Where did I ever figure that?

That was more addressed to Eddy, the original person I was responding to, not yourself. Don't see what that has to do with your calculator, though.

 

[AV1611VET]

Don't see what that has to do with your calculator, though.

Calculators ... figuring ... get it?

You asked why did I figure that the flood would kill sea animals first?

 

[Loudmouth]

Not just appearance of design. Living organisms contain numerous biological machines and complex systems that most times need to all be there to work together.

You have yet to show that this is true for all of history.

Also, you have still failed to address the topic of the thread.

What features must a geologic formation have in order to falsify a recent global flood?

Designed living organisms are evidence for a designer because natural selection and mutations don't build things,

Evidence please.

 

[lasthero]

Calculators ... figuring ... get it?

I suppose so.

You asked why did I figure that the flood would kill sea animals first?

The question was meant for Eddy, the person I was responding to initially, who postulated that the Flood would have killed sea animals and sea plants first. I apologize for the confusion.

 

[Solomio]

Designed living organisms are evidence for a designer because natural selection and mutations don't build things.

But a magic man in the sky does, I can see that.

 

[AV1611VET]

But a magic man in the sky...

Chriss Angel?

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[Solomio]

Chriss Angel?

A con man who tells you he is a con man and does not pretend that he's not, it's what he does.
He cons you into believing he's doing something he's not.

 

[AV1611VET]

A con man who tells you he is a con man and does not pretend that he's not, it's what he does.

A con man doesn't tell you he's a con man.

 

[Solomio]

A con man doesn't tell you he's a con man.

What are illusionists then? you know they are doing the impossible, what do Penn and Teller do? if you said they were performing magic they would laugh and tell you it was only a trick.

I know religious con men don't want you to know they are con men but I think secretly you know that they are,
you would just prefer not to believe it.

 

[Subduction Zone]

If that's the way you want to look at, then why aren't they at the absolute top?

Come to think of, why do you figure that the flood would kill sea animals first?

And speaking of sea life, has anyone kept an aquarium with sea life in it?

It is not for rank amateurs. If anyone ever killed off a tank of freshwater fish, and most of us who have had aquariums have at some point, you can appreciate how much more difficult and more sensitive sea life tends to be.

So flood proponents are claiming over 5 miles of water came from space and under the Earth with the exact right temperature with the exact right dissolved minerals for all of the sea life in the world not to die?

And of course we all know that the flood was a myth. The geologic record shows that all sediments are old. Very very few sediments are from slow deposition. Most are on the order of millimeters per year. There are no erosional depositional relics of the Flud. There is no genetic record of it, yet we know there would have been.

It is a story that you should have realized was a myth when you learned Santa was not real.

 

[Aman777]

And of course we all know that the flood was a myth. The geologic record shows that all sediments are old. Very very few sediments are from slow deposition. Most are on the order of millimeters per year. There are no erosional depositional relics of the Flud. There is no genetic record of it, yet we know there would have been.

It is a story that you should have realized was a myth when you learned Santa was not real.

Dear SZ, You are still preaching the biggest lie in Science, in order to support your false BELIEF in the ToE, I see. Even after you've been told better, you are still repeating the same things which God's Truth showed you were False. I suppose once lost always lost for some.

The Flood Story is God's Truth, but it was NOT our world which was destroyed in the Flood. It was Adam's. Repent of your false teaching. You know better.

In Love,
Aman

 

[Split Rock]

Dear SZ, You are still preaching the biggest lie in Science, in order to support your false BELIEF in the ToE, I see. Even after you've been told better, you are still repeating the same things which God's Truth showed you were False. I suppose once lost always lost for some.

The Flood Story is God's Truth, but it was NOT our world which was destroyed in the Flood. It was Adam's. Repent of your false teaching. You know better.

In Love,
Aman

I guess everyone here needs to "repent of our false teachings," since you are the only one here (evolutionist or creationist) who believes in this alternative world-was-destroyed idea. You are in a Church of One along with dad. You must be very special, indeed...

 

[bhsmte]

Dear SZ, You are still preaching the biggest lie in Science, in order to support your false BELIEF in the ToE, I see. Even after you've been told better, you are still repeating the same things which God's Truth showed you were False. I suppose once lost always lost for some.

The Flood Story is God's Truth, but it was NOT our world which was destroyed in the Flood. It was Adam's. Repent of your false teaching. You know better.

In Love,
Aman

Show us verifiable evidence of your claim.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Dear SZ, You are still preaching the biggest lie in Science, in order to support your false BELIEF in the ToE, I see. Even after you've been told better, you are still repeating the same things which God's Truth showed you were False. I suppose once lost always lost for some.

The Flood Story is God's Truth, but it was NOT our world which was destroyed in the Flood. It was Adam's. Repent of your false teaching. You know better.

In Love,
Aman

I have physical evidence that supports my claim. If your claims are correct you should be able to find support in the physical world too. So far no creationist has found any supporting evidence.

 

[AV1611VET]

What are illusionists then? you know they are doing the impossible, what do Penn and Teller do? if you said they were performing magic they would laugh and tell you it was only a trick.

Then Penn & Teller can laugh themselves silly over Wikipedia:

Magic (sometimes referred to as stage magic to distinguish it from paranormal or ritual magic) is a performing art that entertains audiences by staging tricks or creating illusions of seemingly impossible or supernatural feats using natural means. These feats are called magic tricks, effects, or illusions.

So to get back to my original point:

"Magic man in the sky" may be referring to Chriss Angel.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Then Penn & Teller can laugh themselves silly over Wikipedia:

So to get back to my original point:

"Magic man in the sky" may be referring to Chriss Angel.

That is because Wiki tries to be honest. From Google"

mag·ic
ˈmajik/Submit
noun
1.
the power of apparently influencing the course of events by using mysterious or supernatural forces.
"do you believe in magic?"
synonyms: sorcery, witchcraft, wizardry, necromancy, enchantment, the supernatural, occultism, the occult, black magic, the black arts, voodoo, hoodoo, mojo, shamanism;

That is what is typically meant by "magic". The people at Wiki know that magic is fake, regardless of who or what supposedly did it.

 

[Aman777]

I have physical evidence that supports my claim. If your claims are correct you should be able to find support in the physical world too. So far no creationist has found any supporting evidence.

Dear SZ, I have and YOU, nor any other Evol, has been able to refute it. The physical evidence is in the ruins of the oldest human cities on this Planet. They were built by Noah's great grandsons, who were first generation Humans, of Planet Earth.

Map: Fertile Cresent, 9000 to 4500 BCE

I know WHY you cannot refute it, and it's because you are beginning to realize what a Lie you have swallowed with the False Theory of Evolution. When you come to completely accept God's Truth you will see that Noah brought Human intelligence to this Planet of Caveman, who didn't have enough sense to eat the grain, which grew wild right in front of them.

In Love,
Aman

 

[EternalDragon]

And speaking of sea life, has anyone kept an aquarium with sea life in it?

It is not for rank amateurs. If anyone ever killed off a tank of freshwater fish, and most of us who have had aquariums have at some point, you can appreciate how much more difficult and more sensitive sea life tends to be.

So flood proponents are claiming over 5 miles of water came from space and under the Earth with the exact right temperature with the exact right dissolved minerals for all of the sea life in the world not to die?

And of course we all know that the flood was a myth. The geologic record shows that all sediments are old. Very very few sediments are from slow deposition. Most are on the order of millimeters per year. There are no erosional depositional relics of the Flud. There is no genetic record of it, yet we know there would have been.

It is a story that you should have realized was a myth when you learned Santa was not real.

You are the only one I have ever heard saying the flood was five miles deep and that water came from space. I suppose you are saying that to add dramatic flare?

Subduction raised the ocean floor a bit and the rest came from rain water and some from underground water. (We still have water underground by the way.)

Some sea life did die. That is why we find it in sediment layers. I suppose a fish fossilized eating another fish is your idea of slow formation?

And on the topic of fossils, for the ones in solid rock to from like that it takes quick permineralization or authigenic mineralisation. Unless you want to debate with the experts that those do not exist, then drop your "no evidence of a flood" claim.

 

[Paulos23]

Dear SZ, I have and YOU, nor any other Evol, has been able to refute it. The physical evidence is in the ruins of the oldest human cities on this Planet. They were built by Noah's great grandsons, who were first generation Humans, of Planet Earth.

Map: Fertile Cresent, 9000 to 4500 BCE

I know WHY you cannot refute it, and it's because you are beginning to realize what a Lie you have swallowed with the False Theory of Evolution. When you come to completely accept God's Truth you will see that Noah brought Human intelligence to this Planet of Caveman, who didn't have enough sense to eat the grain, which grew wild right in front of them.

In Love,
Aman

You have yet to provide evidence for your claim. The Burden of Proof is still with you.

 

[CabVet]

You are the only one I have ever heard saying the flood was five miles deep and that water came from space. I suppose you are saying that to add dramatic flare?

So, there were no mountains before the flood. Got it. As for water in space, ask your friend AV. Supposedly we are linked to Neptune.

Subduction raised the ocean floor a bit and the rest came from rain water and some from underground water. (We still have water underground by the way.)

So, all mountains we have today were "raised" after the flood. Interesting one. The patterns or erosion that we see are completely false then. And how long ago was that?

Some sea life did die. That is why we find it in sediment layers. I suppose a fish fossilized eating another fish is your idea of slow formation?

Death was instantaneous, formation was slow. A global flood would kill all sea life. There are no sediment layers close to oceanic ridges.

And on the topic of fossils, for the ones in solid rock to from like that it takes quick permineralization or authigenic mineralisation. Unless you want to debate with the experts that those do not exist, then drop your "no evidence of a flood" claim.

That fossil is not evidence of a flood. Not even close.