According to the (Bible), the entire human race ate from this forbidden fruit. This includes you. Thus, I again ask, under this specific rationale, how are you able to discern that the God (you) believe in, is THE Truth? Because if you remove all your filters, you really have no basis or starting point seemingly...
It is nice to see that you read a story that seems to say that one man ate the fruit….yet was able to see that it referred to the “
entire human race “ Which includes me, as you pointed out. It should be easy then, to tell you that even the verses you mentioned refers to the “
entire human race “ including you. We were all given the instruction to kill all who slept with men and save the virgins for ourselves. And just like in the passages you mentioned, some refused to kill all, to our own demise.
And you can disagree with this, just like millions will disagree with your take on the fruit…..but does that make us wrong?
Filters create starting points….they tell us when things should begin and how they should sound, and only allows passed, that which fit its criteria. There should be no beginning or end. God is not bad or good, or big or small….God….is
Without the filters, we shall see Him as He is…..
What is the point of reading Scripture? This particular verse(s) explains an event. This event explains God telling a certain people to take virgins, (i.e.)
Numbers 31:17-18. Is this 'the Truth' in this generic interpretation thus far? If not, where am I failing? We can then proceed forward as necessary to come to the rationale behind this story. And if you are saying we cannot, then I again ask, what is the point of reading Scripture?
One point in reading, is to give us stories to remember and hold onto till the time of revelation. You will remember this story for the rest of your life…..Had it just states “keep your mind free from sin” You would have forgotten it minutes after you read it….
The story of Eden literally states that one man ate a fruit…..yet you have found an alternate interpretation for the event, which you believe to be correct. This being the case….even if you do not agree with my interpretation, you must, at the very least, agree that there CAN be alternate interpretations other than what plain literal reading would give. It would be unjust to say that the only alternate interpretations are the ones you’ve found yourself……you must leave open the possibility for the planting of seed for those you haven’t found yourself….
Open only to God, via virgin wombs…..not any that has been with man, which could still carry their seed, of course.
If you are incapable, then how were you able to discern that you 'must sit with an open mind free of the seeds of men.'?
Sometimes things happen to force you into silence…..Sometimes we are hard on our path of righteous destruction that we have to be knocked down on a street called strait, like Saul….and blinded……..so that we can see….
I do not claim to have discovered anything on my own through study and discernment…… To gain wisdom, I had to forget everything I thought I knew……I had to kill all the women who have been with men. And I have to admit….I think I may has still left some alive.
But I am confident that He who has begun a good work in me, “will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ”.
Again, the Bible states that all humans have eaten from this forbidden fruit. Thus, (you) would be in the same boat as everyone else.
I then ask... How would God expect for anyone to discern what is true? If all human minds are corrupted, seems as though no one would be able to distinguish truth from fiction, ever. We then use our flawed human minds to discern a conclusion.
We do not use our minds. As we continue in the way, we gradually become less of ourselves and more of Christ….until we can say, like Paul, no more I but Christ that liveth in me.
“And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed
by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.”
Quite the contrary, in my estimation. Seems as though you are somehow purvey to 'knowledge' I have yet to obtain.?.?.?
Seems as though you are saying that I must 'remove all filters' and/or go back to my 'naive childlike ways' to possibly receive Truth?
Going back to the OP, I again ask... What was God's rationale? Thus far, it seems as though you are implying that all taken virgins are pure to receive the truth. Is this correct?
We are all privy to the same knowledge….It’s just that some knowledge do not make it through the filters. The more clean the filter….the more things can get through.
Seeds fight to get to the eggs….millions fight and only one wins. A womb that has no chance of old seed dwelling there, has a better chance of be impregnated by the seed which is “the word of God” Yes, call it a virgin womb, if it helps you remember.
Let me try to get this straight... It is only after we remove all filters, will Truth then begin to be revealed?
No, I would not say that it is the only way. As mentioned above, you can get Knock down on the Street called Strait like Paul. Or get a chance to meet Christ and have an opportunity to stick your fingers in the holes of His hands and side.
I only say that blessed are they who, without seeing, Believe.
I ask you now, is there a way to interpret this passage incorrectly? Meaning, I read in
Numbers 31:17-18, where it states to 'keep alive the virgins for
yourselves.' To me, this means to destroy all humans from this opposing side, but keep the virgins as your own possession(s).
I ask you also, is there a way to interpret this incorrectly?: Gen3:6 …”she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her;
and he did eat.”
What part of “He did eat” sounds like mankind ate “ including me”?
Are you privy to knowledge that others do not have? If you can find more in this idea, then it is possible that more can be found in others passages even if you haven’t found it yet…….is it not?
If it merely stated to keep alive virgins, excluding the caveat about having them for yourselves, then maybe you have some sort of a case. However, it also include 'yourselves.' This would imply some type of ownership to the humans, whom they apparently captured.
We also know, from history, that most wanted virgins when choosing a partner, and not for teaching, if you know what I mean.
Yes, you are to keep them for yourself…..the virgin womb is yours and no one else. Keep it untouched by man and allow the seed of Christ to be born in you… For, like I said before….He has only come through a virgin womb…
Going back to the sheer basics of the story line, I would assume that one tribe conquered another tribe, right? We know this because it is what the Scriptures say.
So, do we AT LEAST agree that a battle took place in the past, and a race was exterminated (excluding virgins)?
If so, I ask... How would you know this without the verses in this chapter? I then ask, why is this True, but I somehow do not understand the other verses?
In my estimation, it seems pretty straight forward and simple...
(i.e.) Party A destroyed party B. Can we at least agree up to this point? If so, why can't we use the same reasoning to deduce the rest of the claims? I'm sensing possible cognitive dissonance...
Thank you thus far...
We do not need to read the bible to know that wars happened in the past….you can watch the history channel or read history books, or watch movies.
The wars the bible speak of are concerning the war between the flesh and the spirit. These wars will continue until the day that we all become one.