What value is Homosexuality to society?

[LittleNipper]

It would seem most obvious that proper heterosexality (married couple/husband & wife) provides the nucleus for a self-sufficent family unit ---- father/mother ----- grandfather/grandmother.

This would be the most uncomplicated family unit and the most convenient for the raising of future citizens.

But what does homosexuality provide for society. Clearly, one doesn't have to be a homosexual in order to be a great actor or musician, anymore that one needs to be married in order to be a great athelete.

So again heterosexuality does play an important role in the establishment of family and community, but what does homosexuality provide specifically.

If it doesn't have anything to offer, perhaps that is enough to make that lifestyle invalid ---- even presumptuous...

 

[Psudopod]

What does left handedness offer to society? If it doesn't have anything to offer, perhaps it is enough to make that lifestyle invalid, even presumptuous.

 

[quatona]

What does left handedness offer to society? If it doesn't have anything to offer, perhaps it is enough to make that lifestyle invalid, even presumptuous.

/thread

 

[ArgentBear]

What value is it to be left handed?
What value is it to be blue eyed?
What value is it to have type B blood?
What value is it to have dark skin?

 

[Autumnleaf]

Homosexuality cuts the birth rate of society which might help with environmental sustainability.

 

[LittleNipper]

What does left handedness offer to society? If it doesn't have anything to offer, perhaps it is enough to make that lifestyle invalid, even presumptuous.

Left-handed people often find it far easier work in areas that right-handed people find difficult --- or doing things that require left-handed leverage.

 

[LittleNipper]

What value is it to be left handed?
What value is it to be blue eyed?
What value is it to have type B blood?
What value is it to have dark skin?

A variety of color that everyone can enjoy.

 

[ArgentBear]

It would seem most obvious that proper heterosexality (married couple/husband & wife) provides the nucleus for a self-sufficent family unit ---- father/mother ----- grandfather/grandmother.

The nuclear family is a rather recent appearance eon the family scene. It is notoriously unstable and limiting. Much more common and more secure are extended family models.

This would be the most uncomplicated family unit and the most convenient for the raising of future citizens.

No one has children because it is “convenient” Kids are many things…but convenient is not one of them

The best family unit is one built on love and dedication to other family members.
And that describes a whole array of families


But perhaps you have actual legitimate research showing that kids raised by same gendered parents are deficient in some way (everything I have read shows that children raised by same sex parents are happy, healthy and well adjusted)…if you know of studies showing otherwise why not share that research with all of us?

But what does homosexuality provide for society. Clearly, one doesn't have to be a homosexual in order to be a great actor or musician, anymore that one needs to be married in order to be a great athelete.

There are of course many heterosexual artists and many gay athletes. IIRC Gay athletes took home a good number of medals in the last Olympics
(and I am sure their families were very proud of them too)

So again heterosexuality does play an important role in the establishment of family and community, but what does homosexuality provide specifically.

Exactly the same role has heterosexuals play. Imagine that

If it doesn't have anything to offer, perhaps that is enough to make that lifestyle invalid ---- even presumptuous...

Presumption is attempting to denigrate a minority

 

[LittleNipper]

Homosexuality cuts the birth rate of society which might help with environmental sustainability.

Not really, most of the homosexuals I have met, seem to want their cake and eat it too. In other words they have children anyway they can get them and very often they are their own through extra-sexual affairs...

 

[LittleNipper]

The nuclear family is a rather recent appearance eon the family scene. It is notoriously unstable and limiting. Much more common and more secure are extended family models.


No one has children because it is “convenient” Kids are many things…but convenient is not one of them

The best family unit is one built on love and dedication to other family members.
And that describes a whole array of families


But perhaps you have actual legitimate research showing that kids raised by same gendered parents are deficient in some way (everything I have read shows that children raised by same sex parents are happy, healthy and well adjusted)…if you know of studies showing otherwise why not share that research with all of us?


There are of course many heterosexual artists and many gay athletes. IIRC Gay athletes took home a good number of medals in the last Olympics
(and I am sure their families were very proud of them too)


Exactly the same role has heterosexuals play. Imagine that


Presumption is attempting to denigrate a minority

We are speaking of homosexual sex and not of a person who happens to practice homosexuality. Anyone can have relations with the same sex; however, what good does that do for society...

 

[Tinker Grey]

Somebody's got to do the color-coordination.

 

[ArgentBear]

Not really, most of the homosexuals I have met, seem to want their cake and eat it too.

Gee…they form families and raise happy, healthy well adjusted children. What is your problem with that?

In other words they have children anyway they can get them and very often they are their own through extra-sexual affairs...

Can you back that claim up with actual statistics?
Or is adoption now considered an “extra-sexual affair”?

 

[SOAD]

It would seem most obvious that proper heterosexality (married couple/husband & wife) provides the nucleus for a self-sufficent family unit ---- father/mother ----- grandfather/grandmother.

This would be the most uncomplicated family unit and the most convenient for the raising of future citizens.

But what does homosexuality provide for society. Clearly, one doesn't have to be a homosexual in order to be a great actor or musician, anymore that one needs to be married in order to be a great athelete.

So again heterosexuality does play an important role in the establishment of family and community, but what does homosexuality provide specifically.

If it doesn't have anything to offer, perhaps that is enough to make that lifestyle invalid ---- even presumptuous...

What is the value of a hererosexual couple who cannot have children? What is the value of an elderly couple getting married when they cannot have children?

Real simple. The relationships, just like a homosexual relationship, provides companionship. One cannot discount the homosexual relationship without also discounting unproductive heterosexual relationships.

 

[LittleNipper]

Somebody's got to do the color-coordination.

One doesn't have to be a homosexual in order to have a keen sense of color and texture...

 

[ArgentBear]

We are speaking of homosexual sex and not of a person who happens to practice homosexuality. Anyone can have relations with the same sex; however, what good does that do for society...

You spent all your time talking about marriage and family. You mentioned them nine times in five sentences. So we are talking about marriage and family.
Heterosexuals are people who happen to life a heterosexual lifestyle. Anyone can have sexual relations with members of the opposite sex but what good does that do for society?

 

[LittleNipper]

What is the value of a hererosexual couple who cannot have children? What is the value of an elderly couple getting married when they cannot have children?

Real simple. The relationships, just like a homosexual relationship, provides companionship. One cannot discount the homosexual relationship without also discounting unproductive heterosexual relationships.

They can still be an example to other married couples of how one should behave.

 

[LittleNipper]

They give small minded bigots something to worry about.

Perhaps homosexuality is the essence of small mindedness at work --- a sex is all about me syndrome.

 

[SOAD]

They can still be an example to other married couples of how one should behave.

A good homosexual marriage can be an example for married couples of how one should behave. Good behavior is good behavior.

Everybody sees right through the topic to your real intentions. My first comment was right on the mark.

 

[ArgentBear]

They can still be an example to other married couples of how one should behave.

Just like same gendered married couples and their families can be role models

(SOAD just beat me to the punch)

 

[Zebra1552]

It would seem most obvious that proper heterosexality (married couple/husband & wife) provides the nucleus for a self-sufficent family unit ---- father/mother ----- grandfather/grandmother.

This would be the most uncomplicated family unit and the most convenient for the raising of future citizens.

But what does homosexuality provide for society. Clearly, one doesn't have to be a homosexual in order to be a great actor or musician, anymore that one needs to be married in order to be a great athelete.

So again heterosexuality does play an important role in the establishment of family and community, but what does homosexuality provide specifically.

If it doesn't have anything to offer, perhaps that is enough to make that lifestyle invalid ---- even presumptuous...

Let me counter one question with another. Why do we need another thread on homosexuality?