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Discussion in 'Struggles by Non-Christians' started by primarymay, Nov 19, 2017.

  1. primarymay

    primarymay Member

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    That fact that the God of the universe exclusively came to this planet, and gave us earthlings a message. A message that is absolutely true for the whole universe, that we humans carry the gospel that no other beings could be or would be capable of possessing.

    That Jesus came to earth and died to reconcile the whole universe, but alas the gospel has not even reached the nearest star, I guess every other humanoid stands condemned.

    I mean, this is the thinking of religious people.
     
  2. Luin

    Luin Christian Flower Supporter

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    I personally don't believe that Christianity is the only true religion. I feel there are many beautiful religions that are true. I just love being Christian because of the kindness of Jesus.
     
  3. Dale

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    There are probably other sentient beings out there in the universe.

    I'm sure that God has a plan for them.
     
  4. primarymay

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    I think you might be open to attack on this one.
     
  5. primarymay

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    Did you know that there are far more documented and recorded UFO sightings than Jesus.
     
  6. ViaCrucis

    ViaCrucis Evangelical Catholic of the Augsburg Confession

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    How'd you reach the conclusion that if intelligent beings--human or otherwise--are automatically condemned simply for not having heard the Gospel? Your conclusion doesn't seem to follow from the premises.

    You seem to be making an assumption that this is the Christian view--except that's hardly the case. That's the view of some Christians; but the more mainstream position among the various Christian traditions/denominations is that God is good, just, and merciful and that those who have never heard the Gospel are in His loving hands--and so we don't make any judgments about them one way or the other.

    -CryptoLutheran
     
  7. JackRT

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    Not all Christians think that way. Not I for sure.
     
  8. iwbswiaihl

    iwbswiaihl Newbie

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    :scratch:
     
  9. bling

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    Do you find more hard proof for the existence of these UFO's than you find for Jesus existing?
     
  10. Luin

    Luin Christian Flower Supporter

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    That is okay. I can handle it. I was not always Christian, I used to be Pagan, so I have some different views.
     
  11. W2L

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    I dont think that way.

    Philippians 2:10-11New King James Version (NKJV)
    10 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those in heaven, and of those on earth, and of those under the earth, 11 and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
     
  12. Radagast

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    C. S. Lewis tackled this one, in Religion and Rocketry.

    a) You are assuming that there is intelligent life on other planets.

    b) You are assuming that that intelligent life is fallen. Lewis writes: "This is the point non-Christians always seem to forget. They seem to think that the Incarnation implies some particular merit or excellence in humanity. But of course it implies just the reverse: a particular demerit and depravity. No creature that deserved Redemption would need to be redeemed."

    c) You are assuming that that fallen intelligent life has been denied Redemption by the Incarnation and Passion of Christ. Lewis writes: "For of course it is no very new idea that the eternal Son may, for all we know, have been incarnate in other worlds than earth and so saved other races than ours... We must surely believe that the divine charity is as fertile in resource as it is measureless in condescension. To different diseases, or even to different patients sick with the same disease, the great Physician may have applied different remedies; remedies which we should probably not recognize as such even if we ever heard of them."

    There are a lot of assumptions there. Lewis sums up: "If I remember rightly, St. Augustine raised a question about the theological position of satyrs, monopods, and other semi-human creatures. He decided it could wait till we knew there were any. So can this."
     
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  13. Little Lantern

    Little Lantern "The spirit of man is the candle of the LORD." Supporter

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    Earth is the only planet that needs the gospel because only earth is under the dominion of Satan. If God has life elsewhere in the universe, it is sin free and in perfect harmony with God like humans were before they sinned.
     
  14. primarymay

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    Hey hey hey, doesn't Jesus state that those who do not believe in him stand condemned already.

    Every humanoid being across the universe must be doomed without the message of Christ.
     
  15. JackRT

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    That is complete speculation.
     
  16. primarymay

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    Well, is knowledge of Jesus sacrifice essential here?
     
  17. primarymay

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    Yes, and that makes me think. You have to believe a lot more that Jesus is real than you do for UFO's.
     
  18. primarymay

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    Speculation, what can turn at a right angle without slowing down? Nothing human I can tell you that.

    Multiple witness have recorded and documented a myriad of sightings, incounters and abductions. But when it comes to Christian witnesses for the existence of their god, it's mostly experiential and emotional based evidence.
     
  19. primarymay

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    Star treking across the universe.
     
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