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I wasn't sure where to ask this, but here it goes...

Imagine you knew someone who had something horrible done to them by someone they knew. Every time they tell you about it, you imagine this person having the same thing done to them in the afterlife for the rest of eternity (I need to try and by more forgiving). As time goes by, you slowly piece together information and learn his full name and his e-mail,
what would you do?
 

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I wasn't sure where to ask this, but here it goes...

Imagine you knew someone who had something horrible done to them by someone they knew. Every time they tell you about it, you imagine this person having the same thing done to them in the afterlife for the rest of eternity (I need to try and by more forgiving). As time goes by, you slowly piece together information and learn his full name and his e-mail,
what would you do?

This is always a difficult question. While I do not agree with vengence I know that in your hypothetical I would feel much the same as the other posters have stated. The issue I see is that when you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes back. Is the revenge you would enact worth the price that you will pay for the rest of your life? Seems a question that each must anwser on their own.

Are there no other options? No way to get the police invovled?
 
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I wasn't sure where to ask this, but here it goes...

Imagine you knew someone who had something horrible done to them by someone they knew. Every time they tell you about it, you imagine this person having the same thing done to them in the afterlife for the rest of eternity (I need to try and by more forgiving). As time goes by, you slowly piece together information and learn his full name and his e-mail,
what would you do?
Probably nothing, but I guess it depends on what exactly the situation is.
 
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I wasn't sure where to ask this, but here it goes...

Imagine you knew someone who had something horrible done to them by someone they knew. Every time they tell you about it, you imagine this person having the same thing done to them in the afterlife for the rest of eternity (I need to try and by more forgiving). As time goes by, you slowly piece together information and learn his full name and his e-mail,
what would you do?
I´m not sure I understand the scenario. Who will have it done to him for eternity - the person you know (the original "victim") or the orgininal "perpetrator"?
And what the heck do the things like eternity and afterlife that your imagination comes up with have to do with anything? :confused:
 
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If the question is simply "What do I do if I have knowledge about something I strongly disapprove of?":
I usually try to isolate and get a clear idea of what it is that I disapprove of about the given scenario, and then try to find out whether there are means to change this bit, preferably without at the same time introducing, causing or engaging in things that I disapprove of, either. IOW: I try to get clear thoughts and reduce the limiting impact of my negative emotions on my cognitive abilities.
Since you don´t tell us any details about what it is that you want to change, I am afraid I can´t be more specific, either.
 
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and .what exactly do i say to the police?
Well, it´s safe to say that you would at least have to tell them a little more than you tell us.
they wouldn't even believe her if she were to go to them, let alone me
What makes you assume that?
 
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That whole "police won't believe me" thing is a total crock... the police are trained to believe EVERY report seriously... which is one of the reasons they get so narcy about crank calls... if you call and give the police all the information you have, they will help. Absolute WORST case scenario, if the police feel unable to help, or that they dont have enough evidence, they will put you or your friend in contact with the right people to help... crisis centers, acomodation, support, and the rest...

PLEASE trust the police on this... most larger stations even have a special support officer trained to handle precisely this sort of occurence
 
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Its great to support a friend... remember, ANY member of the community can report a crime, and the police MUST investigate. whether the person the alleged crime has been commited against wants to press charges or not is up to them... but once the police are involved, they get the chance to make that decision, AND its out of your hands... as things are now, your friend is in trouble and your doing nothing
 
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and .what exactly do i say to the police? they wouldn't even believe her if she were to go to them, let alone me

That's exactly what whoever did this wants you to think. You need to go to the police. If you take things into your own hands you're going to end up screwing up your own life and this person who hurt your friend is going to still be out there walking around.
 
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