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Romans 2.....
says those who do what is right (Gentiles) are justified ..... that Yahuweh wrote on their hearts TORAH .....
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Romans 2.....Romans 2 and the gentiles being judged by the law written in their hearts. Well by the law will no flesh be justified, for by the law is the knowledge of sin, and all have sinned.
When it says their conscince perhaps excuses them, this is not God excusing their sins, it them (their conscience) excusing themselves to God, Adam did so blaming Eve, their is no salvation in that, it is a demonstration of their evil hearts.
Without the shedding of blood, as in them being a part of the covenant established by God, there is no forgiveness of sin. And after Christ, the Old Covenant is no longer in effect, it has passed away. And before that, gentile nations were not part of the old covenant with God. That blood had to be applied by faith, by sprinkling, it can not be remote.Romans 2.....
says those who do what is right (Gentiles) are justified ..... that Yahuweh wrote on their hearts TORAH .....
Cool ! Life Saving Truth !
Look in Romans 2 again. No part of Scripture contradicts any other part of Scripture.Without the shedding of blood, as in them being a part of the covenant, there is no forgiveness of sin.
One HUGE problem with that: The bible does NOT use "deductive" logic. It uses a different framework called either Hebrew Block logic or adductive logic.
They only had a different covenant, but yes, as you say, absolutely savable. The only real difference was, animals took on the sin with their life, not Christ.
Who REQUIRED those sacrifices ?Did the animal sacrifice actually take away sins?
Heb 10:1 For the Law, since it has only a shadow of the good things to come and not the very form of things, can never, by the same sacrifices which they offer continually year by year, make perfect those who draw near. 2 Otherwise, would they not have ceased to be offered, because the worshipers, having once been cleansed, would no longer have had consciousness of sins? 3 But in those sacrifices there is a reminder of sins year by year. 4 For it is impossible for the blood of bulls and goats to take away sins.
Who REQUIRED those sacrifices ?
Who was "cleansed" by those sacrifices ? (verse 2 above, you quoted)
I don't until the questions you quoted above are answered.How do you then explain vers 4?
Who REQUIRED those sacrifices ?
Who was "cleansed" by those sacrifices ? (verse 2 above, you quoted)
The verses you quoted said they were cleansed. And had to do more sacrifices every year to be cleansed again.Israel.
No one was cleansed, for if they were then there would be no more need for more sacrifice.
Oh, btw, it is YAHUWEH who required the sacrifices. He demanded them.Israel.
No one was cleansed, for if they were then there would be no more need for more sacrifice.
The verses you quoted said they were cleansed. And had to do more sacrifices every year to be cleansed again.
What is there about verse 4 that needs explained ?
How does the Bible say they were cleansed ?In what way were they cleansed if the sacrifices couldn't take away sins?
11 Every priest stands daily ministering and offering time after time the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins;
How does the Bible say they were cleansed ?
Oh, btw, it is YAHUWEH who required the sacrifices. He demanded them.
It wasn't Israel's idea.
I believe we are to be 100% obedient. It is like calories. Eat to many you gain weight, eat to few you lose weight. This is an exact diet. Even though we do all sorts of mental gymnastics trying to trick ourselves into thinking we can get away with not eating right, we always end up paying the price.I don't know of anyone who feels we are expected to be 100% obedient.
They looked forward to the sacrifice we look back. Today when the body dies people go to Heaven. Before Calvary they went to what is called Paradise. This was when Jesus "lead captivity captive".How does the Bible say they were cleansed ?
They looked forward to the sacrifice we look back. Today when the body dies people go to Heaven. Before Calvary they went to what is called Paradise. This was when Jesus "lead captivity captive".
The body goes to sheol. When the people are resurrected, they are resurrected to eternal life, or to judgment.They looked forward to the sacrifice we look back. Today when the body dies people go to Heaven. Before Calvary they went to what is called Paradise. This was when Jesus "lead captivity captive".
The 'tradition' is confusing, yes.Confusing...
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